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I guess I would just say that I've been watching Husker games for more than 60 years, 40 of those years were watching a Husker team that had as good a run as any team. BUTT... there were always people who knew more than Coach Osborne, or didn't think the right players were playing, so today's know it alls are no surprise.
 

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For those of you complaining about his high passes to Spielman, did you notice where the LB's were on those plays? Like how AM had to get the ball over the LB's and still drop it in to a short receiver?

Hospital balls happen. They in no way should have happened at the frequency they were Saturday.
 

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Adrain Martinez: 64% completion, 450 total yards and 3 TDs. No picks. Putting in Vedral would have been very stupid.
 

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Adrain Martinez: 64% completion, 450 total yards and 3 TDs. No picks. Putting in Vedral would have been very stupid.


He knows the offense. I bet he makes decisions a lot more quickly and won't run while getting his receivers killed. I would have pulled the trigger in the second quarter and Nebraska would have ran away with the game.
 
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He knows the offense. I bet he makes decisions a lot more quickly and won't run like a ***** while getting his receivers killed. I would have pulled the trigger in the second quarter and Nebraska would have ran away with the game.

And that’s why you are not the Head Coach. And I’m glad. Martinez having 450 total yards for 3 TDs...??? Yep, that would have been STUPID. Very stupid.
 

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He knows the offense. I bet he makes decisions a lot more quickly and won't run like a ***** while getting his receivers killed. I would have pulled the trigger in the second quarter and Nebraska would have ran away with the game.

You're an idiot.
 

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And that’s why you are not the Head Coach. And I’m glad. Martinez having 450 total yards for 3 TDs...??? Yep, that would have been STUPID. Very stupid.


Yea we had 700 yards and about damn near lost to Illinois. I repeat, Illinois. Freaking Illinois......lost to freaking Eastern Michigan last Saturday. Besides 2 big plays by them, our defense was pretty lights out so you can't blame it on them.

So how many yards are we going to need to make it a game with OSU?

Yea stats matter, but don't. With this system, you can't have a QB that is frazzled and throwing wild *** passes. That laser at our TEs feet at the goal line before he lost his footing was hilarious. You also need a QB that can make the correct read In the read option the majority of the time which isn't happening.
 

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Yea we had 700 yards and about damn near lost to Illinois. I repeat, Illinois. Freaking Illinois......lost to freaking Eastern Michigan last Saturday. Besides 2 big plays by them, our defense was pretty lights out so you can't blame it on them.

So how many yards are we going to need to make it a game with OSU?

Yea stats matter, but don't. With this system, you can't have a QB that is frazzled and throwing wild *** passes. That laser at our TEs feet at the goal line before he lost his footing was hilarious. You also need a QB that can make the correct read In the read option the majority of the time which isn't happening.

Bro you can claim your opinion all you want. But pulling Martinez would have been dump. He’s the one who lead us back to win the game and put up over 300 yards passing and over 100 yards rushing for 3 total 3 TDs. Plus went for 64% completions. Sorry, but when that happens, yes...I’m going to disagree on him being pulled. Now had he screwed the pooch and lost us the game, then maybe. Even then, still a maybe. And last year Martinez torched OSU defense AT their house. He very well may tear them apart again. Remember, we played them last year when we went 4-8 and barely lost 31-36.
 

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Yea we had 700 yards and about damn near lost to Illinois. I repeat, Illinois. Freaking Illinois......lost to freaking Eastern Michigan last Saturday. Besides 2 big plays by them, our defense was pretty lights out so you can't blame it on them.

So how many yards are we going to need to make it a game with OSU?

Yea stats matter, but don't. With this system, you can't have a QB that is frazzled and throwing wild *** passes. That laser at our TEs feet at the goal line before he lost his footing was hilarious. You also need a QB that can make the correct read In the read option the majority of the time which isn't happening.

Surely you can understand that four turnover fumbles & 10 penalties is why the game was so close. Hanging that on AMart is just silly.
 

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Bro you can claim your opinion all you want. But pulling Martinez would have been dump. He’s the one who lead us back to win the game and put up over 300 yards passing and over 100 yards rushing for 3 total 3 TDs. Plus went for 64% completions. Sorry, but when that happens, yes...I’m going to disagree on him being pulled. Now had he screwed the pooch and lost us the game, then maybe. Even then, still a maybe. And last year Martinez torched OSU defense AT their house. He very well may tear them apart again. Remember, we played them last year when we went 4-8 and barely lost 31-36.


Wandale won us the game.

And remember that fumble on the lateral during the RPO option last year at Ohio St near the goal line? That was the goofiest **** I've ever seen a QB do in a Nebraska uniform and probably cost us the game. Adrian is a basketball player who can score a lot but has 6 turnovers and doesn't play defense.
 

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Surely you can understand that four turnover fumbles & 10 penalties is why the game was so close. Hanging that on AMart is just silly.


2 of those fumbles were him, so yes I can hang that on him. How many of those penalties were delay of games?
 

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2 of those fumbles were him, so yes I can hang that on him. How many of those penalties were delay of games?

So it’s his fault the Oline was beat on their blocking and got hit while throwing the ball??? Get real dude. You can restate your opinion and view of it all you want. It’s not going to change opinions. Martinez is the right guy back there.
 

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He knows the offense. I bet he makes decisions a lot more quickly and won't run like a ***** while getting his receivers killed. I would have pulled the trigger in the second quarter and Nebraska would have ran away with the game.
Two of Nebraska’s non-scoring drives ended when Mills and Spielman had the ball stripped at the very end of a play. Would your QB change have somehow prevented this from happening, or do you have have some other stroke of sheer genius that addresses those situations?
 

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Two of Nebraska’s non-scoring drives ended when Mills and Spielman had the ball stripped at the very end of a play. Would your QB change have somehow prevented this from happening, or do you have have some other stroke of sheer genius that addresses those situations?

And 2 of them ended with Martinez turnovers. He doubles production but he doubles errors as well.
 

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So it’s his fault the Oline was beat on their blocking and got hit while throwing the ball??? Get real dude. You can restate your opinion and view of it all you want. It’s not going to change opinions. Martinez is the right guy back there.


Where is the pocket presence?

Defensive coordinators know to have a game with Nebraska, you force Adrian to throw because he might torch you one play but the next play there is a good chance you can catch him in a mistake. Lovie was not concerned with him passing the ball. Mistakes were going to keep them in the game. Lovie didn't account for Wandale turning it up in the second half
 

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And 2 of them ended with Martinez turnovers. He doubles production but he doubles errors as well.
I realize Martinez had two turnovers, and they were costly. But I’m asking how Nebraska would have “ran away with the game” given that two of the few times they didn’t score in the second half were due to turnovers that had nothing whatsoever to do with Martinez. Those two plays had as much to do with the game being close as anything related to QB play.
 

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I realize Martinez had two turnovers, and they were costly. But I’m asking how Nebraska would have “ran away with the game” given that two of the few times they didn’t score in the second half were due to turnovers that had nothing whatsoever to do with Martinez. Those two plays had as much to do with the game being close as anything related to QB play.

Mills fumble was in the second quarter so he did have a turnover in the second half. Led to an illinois touchdown.
 

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Mills fumble was in the second quarter so he did have a turnover in the second half. Led to an illinois touchdown.
Right, my bad. But you said you would have pulled the trigger on Martinez in the second quarter, so I’m still trying to figure out how Nebraska runs away with the game after the QB change. How does that happen, exactly?
 

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Right, my bad. But you said you would have pulled the trigger on Martinez in the second quarter, so I’m still trying to figure out how Nebraska runs away with the game after the QB change. How does that happen, exactly?


I'm insinuating that Vedral would be more decisive, make better reads and not appear to have concrete in his shoes. I'm insinuating Vedral probably knows this offense better than Martinez and by benching him you are lighting a fire under his *** to improve or if he doesn't you don't waste the next 2.5 years on him
 

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Right, my bad. But you said you would have pulled the trigger on Martinez in the second quarter, so I’m still trying to figure out how Nebraska runs away with the game after the QB change. How does that happen, exactly?
You're basically asking someone who's colorblind to say which color is green
 

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I'm insinuating that Vedral would be more decisive, make better reads and not appear to have concrete in his shoes. I'm insinuating Vedral probably knows this offense better than Martinez and by benching him you are lighting a fire under his *** to improve or if he doesn't you don't waste the next 2.5 years on him

Dude your stating opinions on how long he’s been in the system. You’re HOPING he will just come in and kill it. Don’t you think Frost would put Vedral in if he’s as good as your HOPING??? Or two, maybe Martinez hasn’t been as bad as you’re thinking? Just saying...
 

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I'm insinuating that Vedral would be more decisive, make better reads and not appear to have concrete in his shoes. I'm insinuating Vedral probably knows this offense better than Martinez and by benching him you are lighting a fire under his *** to improve or if he doesn't you don't waste the next 2.5 years on him
So when do we get to the part where Vedral enters in the second quarter and the Huskers run away with the Illinois game? Is that in a different episode?
 

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So when do we get to the part where Vedral enters in the second quarter and the Huskers run away with the Illinois game? Is that in a different episode?

It must be. The bad part was it wasn’t all on Martinez. The offense as a whole made mistakes.
 

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So when do we get to the part where Vedral enters in the second quarter and the Huskers run away with the Illinois game? Is that in a different episode?


Hey man have fun averaging 500 yards a game but winning 4 to 6 games.
 

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It must be. The bad part was it wasn’t all on Martinez. The offense as a whole made mistakes.


Not really. Besides the 2 fumbles everyone else played pretty solid besides a couple mixed blocks. Not on the read option though. One guy on the defense is let loose. QB is supposed to keep it if the RB is keyed on which will happen against every defense we play this season.
 

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Not really. Besides the 2 fumbles everyone else played pretty solid besides a couple mixed blocks. Not on the read option though. One guy on the defense is let loose. QB is supposed to keep it if the RB is keyed on which will happen against every defense we play this season.

Yes sir, dam it man. Our sophomore QB makes mistakes here and there. How dare he...he’s supposed to play like a senior dam it. Lmfao
 

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Yes sir, dam it man. Our sophomore QB makes mistakes here and there. How dare he...he’s supposed to play like a senior dam it. Lmfao


I just looked at your avatar. Never mind. Proceed lol.

We won't be winning the division with him at QB.
 

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I just looked at your avatar. Never mind. Proceed lol.

We won't be winning the division with him at QB.

Yes sir, I back our Starting QB up fully. I’m not like you and act like an arm chair head coach. We see this all the time, our starting QB makes some mistakes and then we have guys like you begging for the back up like he’s the next Tim Tebow.
 

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Yes sir, I back our Starting QB up fully. I’m not like you and act like an arm chair head coach. We see this all the time, our starting QB makes some mistakes and then we have guys like you begging for the back up like he’s the next Tim Tebow.

Some mistakes? Most coaches would bench him for the hospital balls alone.
 

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Hey man have fun averaging 500 yards a game but winning 4 to 6 games.
I’m not the one who said he would have pulled Martinez for Vedral and NU would have proceeded to run away with the game - you are. I’m just asking you to explain how, given that two of the three turnovers that happened after that would-be QB change had nothing to do with Martinez. Do you have an explanation, or are you backpedaling from what most people (even Martinez’s critics) would consider a mind-numbingly stupid comment?
 

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I’m not the one who said he would have pulled Martinez for Vedral and NU would have proceeded to run away with the game - you are. I’m just asking you to explain how, given that two of the three turnovers that happened after that would-be QB change had nothing to do with Martinez. Do you have an explanation, or are you backpedaling from what most people (even Martinez’s critics) would consider a mind-numbingly stupid comment?


I explained it. This is the UCF offense with power. It doesn't look like that because of the QB.

I disagree with most of the Monday through Friday posters here. Time will tell.
 

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I explained it. This is the UCF offense with power. It doesn't look like that because of the QB.

I disagree with most of the Monday through Friday posters here. Time will tell.
No, you didn’t explain it in the least. You didn’t even come close. You just muttered something over your shoulder about lighting a fire and the next 2.5 years and never addressed the question at all.

And I don’t care who you agree with or don’t agree with. I’m not really very happy with how Martinez has played and I would like to see improvement in a lot of areas. I just don’t try to make that case by making ridiculously idiotic comments and then squealing my way out of the conversation.
 

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I explained it. This is the UCF offense with power. It doesn't look like that because of the QB.

I disagree with most of the Monday through Friday posters here. Time will tell.

I completely disagree with your opinion “It doesn't look like that because of the QB.” Martinez does appear to be trying to change a few things and it’s slowed him down some. But he’s still doing fine. Hell he leads the BIG 10 in passing yards at this very moment. He’s been far from perfect but he’s also far from bad.
 

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I completely disagree with your opinion “It doesn't look like that because of the QB.” Martinez does appear to be trying to change a few things and it’s slowed him down some. But he’s still doing fine. Hell he leads the BIG 10 in passing yards at this very moment. He’s been far from perfect but he’s also far from bad.


Stats don't matter. 700 yards. Against Illinois. And we got lucky to win. And it wasn't on the defense.

Look at Illinois win probability the rest of the season. One game they have the percentage to win in against Rutgers. They are 30 percent against Purdue and 36 percent against Northwestern. They are a horrible, atrocious team and we were lucky to beat them with 700 yards.