Punch costly for Iowa State

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

The problem with WV is even after a huge win their ratings are horrible.

NC State vs Wake outdrew WV....

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/


The Big XII is being considered the number 3 conference because of ratings but because of games involving Oklahoma or Texas.

Would be very interested if WV vs Oklahoma St hits the magic number of 2 mil.

 

[88rocco]

Not really....
One personal foul penalty because of a horse collar in the pocket.
If you look at the rulebook you cannot call a horse collar in the pocket.

The spotting of the ball when the helmet came off.
If you review the play and watch other plays with Ehlinger in other games you notice a difference with the chinstrap.

Not calling CFB pro wrestling but a lot of that game was staged.

Hate to say it but almost every game with Texas this year has been like that.
Truthfully a lot of us would love to get back to just playing football.

 

[still5-0vstarheels]

The problem with Ehlinger is not talent but is heart. You will always lose a few games a year with him at QB.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

The problem with Ehlinger is not talent but is heart. You will always lose a few games a year with him at QB.

Sometimes you try way too hard.....

Truthfully that was Ehlinger's issue in the Maryland game.
He recovered and has not thrown an interception since.
Like he was beaten with a stick after the game to not thrown an interception.

So.....
You cannot be the further from the truth.
Very few freshmen QBs take a leadership role.
Ehlinger did last year. Rewatched the OU game from last year.
Truthfully to me that was his best game because he almost won the game by himself but suffered a concussion.
Been around football long enough that I knew that he was special after that game.


Funny thing is thatthe biggest jump a QB makes is between his second and third year.
So as great as Ehlinger is this year it is not anywhere close to the level he can reach.
Especially considering that he changes the plays at the line of scrimmage.
By next year it will be like having an OC on the field

 

[still5-0vstarheels]

Sometimes you try way too hard.....

Truthfully that was Ehlinger's issue in the Maryland game.
He recovered and has not thrown an interception since.
Like he was beaten with a stick after the game to not thrown an interception.

So.....
You cannot be the further from the truth.
Very few freshmen QBs take a leadership role.
Ehlinger did last year. Rewatched the OU game from last year.
Truthfully to me that was his best game because he almost won the game by himself but suffered a concussion.
Been around football long enough that I knew that he was special after that game.


Funny thing is thatthe biggest jump a QB makes is between his second and third year.
So as great as Ehlinger is this year it is not anywhere close to the level he can reach.
Especially considering that he changes the plays at the line of scrimmage.
By next year it will be like having an OC on the field

And he will almost win the game in Morgantown next year. Thanks for making my point.

 

[HairRaid]

The ball had already been thrown and therefore the pocket no longer existed. It should have been a horsecollar AND roughing the passer.

 

[HairRaid]

Only a Texas fan could see an attempt to break someone’s leg and say “It shouldn’t have been called a penalty because of a technicality (that I’m actually wrong about)”

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

And he will almost win the game in Morgantown next year. Thanks for making my point.

You don't know what you are going to get out of the QB position yet so you are getting way ahead of yourself.

Like I said Oklahoma will get the benefit of the doubt because of the success they have had at the QB since 1999.
I like Jack Allison but he will not replace the production of Grier with all the weapons leaving as well.
Difference is Baker Mayfield left OU with all their RBs and WRs last year.

 

[IowaPride95]

Run game is determined on three things in college football.
1) Location of safeties
2) If the QB is a factor
3) OLine push

So unless Purdy can take advantage of the secondary Montgomery will be a non factor.

Iowa St has shown the last three years to be a team that abandons the run.
Hurt them against TCU and Iowa this year.

Not really sure ISU abandoned the run against TCU or Iowa, they just could not run. Clones ran 28 running plays and threw 28 passes, Zeb Noland was just not a very good QB and it cost ISU. Against Iowa, they have one of the best run defenses in the country and have below average DBs and safeties. Trying to run was pointless. ISU ran for less than 19 yards on 25 attempts against Iowa and attempted 31 passes, pretty close to 50/50 mix, they just could not run against Iowa's 6th ranked rushing defense.

But regardless, what happened in those games with Kempt and Noland at the helm vs what will happen with Purdy are completely different beasts. Montgomery is a man. He will be missed, but ISU has other capable running backs to carry them for a half. If Texas wins, Montgomery will not be a viable excuse to me. Sucks that he is out, but the next man in must step up.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

I think the game will be decided on the play of Iowa St's DLine and LB

Since Iowa St will have to play 2-3 safeties deep Iowa St needs to shut down Texas' run game.

Meaning that you have 5 in the box against 5-7 defenders depending on if Texas plays 3-5 WRs and who runs the ball
When Ehlinger runs his QB power they will have one extra blocker

The game will be determined on if your front and LBs can get off of blocks.

If Texas' OL manhandles your DLine and LBs Texas will move the ball at will and force you to play more in the box

This is an issue because ISU has small corners

Peavy is giving 9 inches to Collin Johnson so your CBs can't play one on one coverage

 

[IowaPride95]

Ehlinger is by far the best QB returning next year.

By far?
Ehlinger 10 games, 248 yards/game, 20 TDs, 2 INTs, QB rating of 149
Purdy 6 games, 219 yards/game, 13 TD, 2 INT, QB rating of 192
Not sure how one looks at those numbers and then considers that Purdy is a true freshman who has only played against Big 12 teams in those stats and say Ehlinger is by far the best QB returning next year.

 

[IowaPride95]

I think the game will be decided on the play of Iowa St's DLine and LB

Since Iowa St will have to play 2-3 safeties deep Iowa St needs to shut down Texas' run game.

Meaning that you have 5 in the box against 5-7 defenders depending on if Texas plays 3-5 WRs and who runs the ball
When Ehlinger runs his QB power they will have one extra blocker

The game will be determined on if your front and LBs can get off of blocks.

If Texas' OL manhandles your DLine and LBs Texas will move the ball at will and force you to play more in the box

This is an issue because ISU has small corners

Peavy is giving 9 inches to Collin Johnson so your CBs can't play one on one coverage

There are literally thousands of variables that will determine the game, but Peavy is the least of my concerns. He is currently tied with Georgia's Deandre Baker as the nation's highest graded cornerback by PFF. He can guard one on one.

I have yet to see anyone manhandle our DL. Maybe Texas will be the first, but there is a reason ISU is first in the Big 12 in rushing defense allowing only 109 yards per game and allowing only 5 rushing TDs so far, the DL has been pretty good.

I certainly am not saying Iowa State will win this game, because at best, it is a toss up in my mind, but I think you are underestimating ISU's defense.

Offense is my primary concern for ISU. Need to get in rhythm early.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

You actually believe those ProFootball Focus numbers are accurate.
Peavy is 5'8" going against a 6'6" WR

Iowa St played Texas last year.

Collin Johnson was coming off of a huge game vs USC.
ISU threw 6 DBs in coverage and forced Texas to play very conservative.
Texas ran the ball 52 times and possessed the ball for well over 40 minutes.
Iowa St had a great run defense as well.

Mind you this was with a horrible OL and without Ehlinger

According to the ISU DC he will play a 3 safety high D to prevent Texas from throwing the ball downfield.

Basic Iowa St D.
Peavy's numbers look great because of how ISU plays D.
They don't allow him to play man to man.

Like I said Texas for the most part is willing to play conservative.

I think this is the case because they will go after Brock Purdy.
ISU's OL has huge holes.
Plus Texas wants to take his confidence away early.

This is why I said ISU's ability to stop the run is important.
Because it is going to be another 17-14 or 20-17 type of game.

Both Herman and Campbell like to play conservative when matched up against similar teams

There are a lot of similarities between the two teams on both sides of the ball.