Post game conference

[Aike]

It's a valid question. I think they were mutually exclusive in the Wisconsin game, for one. Why keep kids in the game who are performing poorly and by his own words, aren't listening to him. He had other options. However, they don't need to be mutually exclusive to answer it. Everything Cal does is slanted towards getting kids drafted. You know as well as I do that if the question could ever be asked, Cal would choose getting kids drafted. It's not necessarily a bad thing, it's just a trickle down philosophy. I do think a lot of people are getting tired of it though.

The backcourt that he left in the game had a history of performing well in the clutch in big games.

The backcourt he left on the bench was struggling defensively.

Whether you agree with it or not, it was a coaching decision. He was trying to win the game.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

The backcourt that he left in the game had a history of performing well in the clutch in big games.

The backcourt he left on the bench was struggling defensively.

Whether you agree with it or not, it was a coaching decision. He was trying to win the game.

Ok, but why do you leave kids on the floor when they aren't listening to you? Coaches rarely tolerate that. I see that one differently than you. That's fine. The rest of what I said is accurate.

 

[Aike]

Ok, but why do you leave kids on the floor when they aren't listening to you? Coaches rarely tolerate that. I see that one differently than you. That's fine. The rest of what I said is accurate.

I think he left them on the floor because they'd won 38 straight games and he was counting on them to get it right.

When things go south, it's easy to judge. It's a tough business.

That one loss has played with the psyche of a lot of people. Probably Cal included.

 

[Xception]

Right now I really don't care. Cal is being held hostage by a bunch of kids AGAIN!
He has given the players too much freedom. No other coach in the country would allow these guys to just jack up some of these shots they're taking. Other coaches would put them on the bench as a motivator. Not Cal,that spot is reserved for everyone not named Fox, Briscoe, or Monk.
I don't agree with him being irreplaceable either. It's like dating a really hot girl who is screwing every guy she sees. Yet you tell yourself you'll never get a girlfriend as hot as her again. So you just put up with it.
You think Cal is the only coach in the world?
He has as many championships as Hall, Pitino, and Tubby. And he's had a ton of talent.
There are eight banners hanging in Rupp and one belongs to a Cal coached team. It took a player like Davis and an NBA lockout to get it. I don't see that happening again. As far as final fours they show his shortcomings more than success IMO.
He's a heck of a recruiter but past that it's all AAU ball and an NBA first program

Yea , mighty Kentucky was doing just fine before Cal got here . Nobody wanted this job except Cal and that's why we had to take BCG to begin with . Want to know why coaches didn't want to coach here ? The fans , any benefit the job might bring is entirely diminished by the baggage they bring . They're impatient and sore losers that will turn on you not for only losing but not winning by enough .

There's not another Cal out there that needs UK equally as bad . So you draw up a list of the finest coaches that could bring you more titles that you so rightfully deserve and watch as every one of them turn down the job . You'll be entirely mystified by this as you rattle off all the reasons UK is the best job in the world , ironically listing the fans as it's biggest bonus .

We'll settle for a coach and most will be blathering on about getting back to having experience that will make us better . The elite players will be gone and we'll start a slow but lengthy decline over a decade or so , repeated f4 's will be a memory . We were clearly heading down the used to be path that IU took before Cal was miraculously available .

It's a different era and programs don't carry themselves anymore , it's the coach that makes the program . Players pick coaches not schools , you either have a coach that the best players want or you don't get the best players . We can't afford to lose Cal but go ahead and think this is some unstoppable machine that can't be brought down , you're in for a rude awakening.

 

[MudererofCrows]

Yea , mighty Kentucky was doing just fine before Cal got here . Nobody wanted this job except Cal and that's why we had to take BCG to begin with . Want to know why coaches didn't want to coach here ? The fans , any benefit the job might bring is entirely diminished by the baggage they bring . They're impatient and sore losers that will turn on you not for only losing but not winning by enough .

There's not another Cal out there that needs UK equally as bad . So you draw up a list of the finest coaches that could bring you more titles that you so rightfully deserve and watch as every one of them turn down the job . You'll be entirely mystified by this as you rattle off all the reasons UK is the best job in the world , ironically listing the fans as it's biggest bonus .

We'll settle for a coach and most will be blathering on about getting back to having experience that will make us better . The elite players will be gone and we'll start a slow but lengthy decline over a decade or so , repeated f4 's will be a memory . We were clearly heading down the used to be path that IU took before Cal was miraculously available .

It's a different era and programs don't carry themselves anymore , it's the coach that makes the program . Players pick coaches not schools , you either have a coach that the best players want or you don't get the best players . We can't afford to lose Cal but go ahead and think this is some unstoppable machine that can't be brought down , you're in for a rude awakening.

Here comes the fan police....

 

[Xception]

So that's the only outcomes? In the past 7 years, UConn has 2 titles, Duke has 2 titles, UK, UL and Nova have 1 each. In those 7 years we have had far more talent than anyone and in that fact, it isn't even close. UConn, UL, Nova and you really have to include Duke, have all done it with crappy 4 year players.

Would be great to be Uconn huh ? Just because they got lucky in a luck required tournament doesn't mean it's an avenue to be taken for us . Uconn is not good but if let's duplicate their way . UL is in super deep ish with the NCAA but there's another way of getting it done . Duke gets the most pampered bracket most years and I'm sure the NCAA will do is this honor when Cal leaves so then we could get their results . Lastly we could choke out repeatedly to the point it is questioned yearly as to why we get a high seed until the one year we did something like Nova . Point is you can't pluck title winners as an example without taking on their fails also , or even their benefits that we would never receive .

 

[Xception]

Here comes the fan police....

Awe somebody wants to hear how pretty the big ole BBN is , you make this program go sugar britches and don't let nobody tell you otherwise . Goochie goochie goochie little BBN , goochie goochie goochie

 

[ck-2]

You are putting words in my message. Show me where I said I doubted next years talent....Once again your reading comprehension is forcing your foot in your mouth.
I clearly stated that people build these guys up before they ever get here. Then when they do get here they don't live up to the prognostication then the same people are ready to throw them under the bus. Or they attack Cal's coaching abilities........all because of their lofty ideas.

Speaking of reading comprehension, where did I ever mention next years talent?

 

[ck-2]

Yea , mighty Kentucky was doing just fine before Cal got here . Nobody wanted this job except Cal and that's why we had to take BCG to begin with . Want to know why coaches didn't want to coach here ? The fans , any benefit the job might bring is entirely diminished by the baggage they bring . They're impatient and sore losers that will turn on you not for only losing but not winning by enough .

There's not another Cal out there that needs UK equally as bad . So you draw up a list of the finest coaches that could bring you more titles that you so rightfully deserve and watch as every one of them turn down the job . You'll be entirely mystified by this as you rattle off all the reasons UK is the best job in the world , ironically listing the fans as it's biggest bonus .

We'll settle for a coach and most will be blathering on about getting back to having experience that will make us better . The elite players will be gone and we'll start a slow but lengthy decline over a decade or so , repeated f4 's will be a memory . We were clearly heading down the used to be path that IU took before Cal was miraculously available .

It's a different era and programs don't carry themselves anymore , it's the coach that makes the program . Players pick coaches not schools , you either have a coach that the best players want or you don't get the best players . We can't afford to lose Cal but go ahead and think this is some unstoppable machine that can't be brought down , you're in for a rude awakening.

One championship same as Hall, Pitino, and tubby. But hey we've made final fours. And own the NBA rosters. That's what we all want.

And you think we can't get a good coach to come here for the money Cal is making. The Billy G hire is on Barnhart, not a reflection of the program or where we'd be without Cal. That's my opinion and I may be wrong.

 

[MudererofCrows]

Awe somebody wants to hear how pretty the big ole BBN is , you make this program go sugar britches and don't let nobody tell you otherwise . Goochie goochie goochie little BBN , goochie goochie goochie

You have your head so far up your own *** you can taste the back of your teeth.

 

[Xception]

One championship same as Hall, Pitino, and tubby. But hey we've made final fours. And own the NBA rosters. That's what we all want.

Your problem is being title or bust because if the Tubby era is the same as the Cal era in your eyes the you're the problem .

 

[Xception]

You have your head so far up your own *** you can taste the back of your teeth.

 

[ck-2]

Your problem is being title or bust because if the Tubby era is the same as the Cal era in your eyes the you're the problem .

It's not title or bust for me. But title should be the goal. Not a final four or the draft.

 

[Xception]

It's not title or bust for me. But title should be the goal. Not a final four or the draft.

You can say it's not title or bust but then titles is the entire basis for your argument and then proceed to dismiss a final four , which is the second biggest accomplishment a program can have .

 

[ck-2]

You can say it's not title or bust but then titles is the entire basis for your argument and then proceed to dismiss a final four , which is the second biggest accomplishment a program can have .

You can say you're right. I can say I'm right. See how that works?

 

[Steady]

It appears Cal is hitching his wagon to #13. If that's the case, we wont make it past the 1st weekend. JMO.

 

[gracetoyou]

I seriously question the intelligence of UK fans. You guys do this every season...seem to never learn. Do us true UK fans a favor & don't jump back on the bandwagon when this team is playing great in March.

UK fans: short-sighted, emotionally enslaved, low IQ, frequent amnesia!

 

[true55]

He has to stick with them. I mean what other option do we have? lol

We aren't winning a title starting Willis, Woodchopper, Issac and Hawkins lol

Whats best for the team is that these talented kids stay on the court and figure this out

Who in the heck is woodchopper?

 

[irishcat1965]

Lol. Where is this coach that can satisfy these people? Please identify him and his accomplishments.

 

[MudererofCrows]

Lol. Where is this coach that can satisfy these people? Please identify him and his accomplishments.

I don't think the fans who are upset are against Cal. They're tired of some of his philosophy. There's a nuance there that seems to be forgotten.

 

[irishcat1965]

I don't think the fans who are upset are against Cal. They're tired of some of his philosophy. There's a nuance there that seems to be forgotten.

I have no problem with that argument at all. Will you acknowledge all coaches have their quirks and things that their fans don't agree with?

 

[Xception]

You can say you're right. I can say I'm right. See how that works?

I can say you're contradicting yourself and be exactly right , if you don't care for final fours then you are by default a title or bust fan . But if you want to use only titles as an argument but try to make yourself not look like a title or bust fan then you are not right .

 

[MudererofCrows]

I have no problem with that argument at all. Will you acknowledge all coaches have their quirks and things that their fans don't agree with?

Of course.

I'm a long view kind of guy anyway and I don't think Calipari's tenure can be accurately judged until his day is over. I wouldn't trade him for anybody but that doesn't excuse his mistakes nor does it mean he can't improve, grow or change in some areas.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

Who in the heck is woodchopper?

Wynyard lol

 

[irishcat1965]

Of course.

I'm a long view kind of guy anyway and I don't think Calipari's tenure can be accurately judged until his day is over. I wouldn't trade him for anybody but that doesn't excuse his mistakes nor does it mean he can't improve, grow or change in some areas.

And I'm in total agreement with that. Cal makes mistakes and gets outcoached- Coach K does too.

 

[ck-2]

I can say you're contradicting yourself and be exactly right , if you don't care for final fours then you are by default a title or bust fan . But if you want to use only titles as an argument but try to make yourself not look like a title or bust fan then you are not right .

I can say for me personally the goal at a program like Kentucky should always be a title. Final fours are great.
If losing to Tennessee, playing like we did against Georgia, and then getting blown out at Florida consecutively aren't reason enough to question Cal then I'm wrong.

 

[MudererofCrows]

And I'm in total agreement with that. Cal makes mistakes and gets outcoached- Coach K does too.

My bone of contention with Cal is that he has a stubbornness in him that stunts him at times.

Particular flaws and faults, correctable or not, come and go with teams in regards each year to their makeup. But a coaches job is to always put the players in the best position to succeed. I think overall Cal has done that.

 

[irishcat1965]

I can say for me personally the goal at a program like Kentucky should always be a title. Final fours are great.
If losing to Tennessee, playing like we did against Georgia, and then getting blown out at Florida consecutively aren't reason enough to question Cal then I'm wrong.

Then you would question any other coach in the nation.

 

[irishcat1965]

My bone of contention with Cal is that he has a stubbornness in him that stunts him at times.

Particular flaws and faults, correctable or not, come and go with teams in regards each year to their makeup. But a coaches job is to always put the players in the best position to succeed. I think overall Cal has done that.

I agree. He has done that.

 

[EliteBlue]

A lot of the reason the tweak worked in 2014 was that we had an absolute monster in the middle in Randle.

He didn't just get buckets, but also averaged 12 rebounds during the 4 game run to the Final Four.

If I were going to pick one reason that this team can't get it done, it would be the lack of a Randle-type. The lack of effort on the interior.

It's looking a lot like the same problem we had last year. Elite guards and nothing else.

Bam hasn't had double figure rebounds since the UCLA game. That is unfathomable.

Some of that is scheme, with Bam getting caught away from the basket in switches, but a lot is effort.

He isn't getting caught on switches on the offensive end. But it leads us to another issue, which is losing Bam as an offensive rebounder when we try to run the offense through him.

My two cents is that we get Bam away from the basket. Scrap working to post him up time after time. Move the ball from side to side. Drive with the guards to score or kick. Get Bam easy looks when the guards are doubled or when he crashes the boards.

Do that 80% of the time and mix in a post up now and then. It's what we are built for, imo. Bam's energy and physicality is going to waste right now.

Yep. And what you described is how we were playing when we were averaging 90+ a game. Since trying to run more offensive sets and go inside out we have stagnated, canceled out our backcourt speed, and negated Bams best assets.

 

[ck-2]

Then you would question any other coach in the nation.

So it's wrong to question Cal and this team after the last three games?

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

So it's wrong to question Cal and this team after the last three games?

it's not wrong to question things.

But people take it too far.

Need to have perspective here.

 

[irishcat1965]

So it's wrong to question Cal and this team after the last three games?

I think it's fair game to talk about what has gone wrong the last few weeks.

 

[3rex]

Yea , mighty Kentucky was doing just fine before Cal got here . Nobody wanted this job except Cal and that's why we had to take BCG to begin with . Want to know why coaches didn't want to coach here ? The fans , any benefit the job might bring is entirely diminished by the baggage they bring . They're impatient and sore losers that will turn on you not for only losing but not winning by enough .

There's not another Cal out there that needs UK equally as bad . So you draw up a list of the finest coaches that could bring you more titles that you so rightfully deserve and watch as every one of them turn down the job . You'll be entirely mystified by this as you rattle off all the reasons UK is the best job in the world , ironically listing the fans as it's biggest bonus .

We'll settle for a coach and most will be blathering on about getting back to having experience that will make us better . The elite players will be gone and we'll start a slow but lengthy decline over a decade or so , repeated f4 's will be a memory . We were clearly heading down the used to be path that IU took before Cal was miraculously available .

It's a different era and programs don't carry themselves anymore , it's the coach that makes the program . Players pick coaches not schools , you either have a coach that the best players want or you don't get the best players . We can't afford to lose Cal but go ahead and think this is some unstoppable machine that can't be brought down , you're in for a rude awakening.

You've got to be his agent or his mom, not real sure which. Who cares if there's not another Cal out there?!
There are lots of very good coaches. We will find one.
We were the Roman Empire of College Basketball long before Cal, and I'm confident we will continue to be long after he's gone.

 

[3rex]

I seriously question the intelligence of UK fans. You guys do this every season...seem to never learn. Do us true UK fans a favor & don't jump back on the bandwagon when this team is playing great in March.

UK fans: short-sighted, emotionally enslaved, low IQ, frequent amnesia!

lol..."us true UK fans..."

 

[Xception]

I can say for me personally the goal at a program like Kentucky should always be a title. Final fours are great.
If losing to Tennessee, playing like we did against Georgia, and then getting blown out at Florida consecutively aren't reason enough to question Cal then I'm wrong.

Now final fours matter ? You're a moving target and weren't you arguing about entire tenures (titles) previously , now you're just talking about the right to criticize over the last few games ? Sounds like you have a healthy aresenal of complaints , by all means present them all contradictions included .

 

[Blue wood]

Yawwwwwnnnn. Same horse crap explanation from Cal. Different day. He's like a broken record from back in the day that there were record players. Heck if this keeps up he can just videotape his post game presser and hit the replay button after every game.

Just like a bunch of our fans dumbass posts. Yawn

 

[ck-2]

Now final fours matter ? You're a moving target and weren't you arguing about entire tenures (titles) previously , now you're just talking about the right to criticize over the last few games ? Sounds like you have a healthy aresenal of complaints , by all means present them all contradictions included .

Look man. Final fours matter. But titles are what every program is judged by. I'm not a moving target. Cal has one title and it's largely due to Davis and an NBA lockout.
If he leaves here with only one title he's failed. I don't care how many final fours he goes to one title and he's failed. His system is broke. These last three games were a joke, as was the Vandy game. I keep hearing how the sec sucks. Yet they are giving us all we can handle. I hope Cal wins 10 more titles here but he's going to have to coach the team he's got. Coaching to their strengths and helping them overcome their deficiencies. He's not doing that now.
You and I disagree let's just leave it at that.

 

[Xception]

Look man. Final fours matter. But titles are what every program is judged by. I'm not a moving target. Cal has one title and it's largely due to Davis and an NBA lockout.
If he leaves here with only one title he's failed. I don't care how many final fours he goes to one title and he's failed. His system is broke. These last three games were a joke, as was the Vandy game. I keep hearing how the sec sucks. Yet they are giving us all we can handle. I hope Cal wins 10 more titles here but he's going to have to coach the team he's got. Coaching to their strengths and helping them overcome their deficiencies. He's not doing that now.
You and I disagree let's just leave it at that.

Since final fours matter all of the sudden then you can't turn right around and discount them because it nullifies your argument . Incredible how you say final fours are great then say you don't care how many f4's Cal goes to as it's only the title that you're counting but you're not a title or bust fan as you so duly noted .

If Cal failed with one title then Pitino failed with one title , in that argument only a Rupp has succeeded and UK is a failed program since he left . So I don't know why there is complaining since we haven't had a successful tenure since the 70's .

 

[ck-2]

Since final fours matter all of the sudden then you can't turn right around and discount them because it nullifies your argument . Incredible how you say final fours are great then say you don't care how many f4's Cal goes to as it's only the title that you're counting but you're not a title or bust fan as you so duly noted .

If Cal failed with one title then Pitino failed with one title , in that argument only a Rupp has succeeded and UK is a failed program since he left . So I don't know why there is complaining since we haven't had a successful tenure since the 70's .

Keep being satisfied with your #1 recruiting classes, NBA drafts, and excuses then.
They're young, I like my team. They'll never be old here though.