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MakinMusic_rivals

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Some of the comments on this board and in this thread..........wow. For example, sit
Monk and Briscoe. Haha. Monk had 47, 37 and is clearly on of the best to ever suit up at Kentucky. Briscoe is the toughest player on the team who helped us beat Georgia with 23 and 11. I would take him in a dogfight on the court every time. Do they both make mistakes...of course. The comments about those two are just ridiculous, frankly laughable.

The truth is, this team just isn't a good defensive team. We have no real post presence. I don't expect a lot from this team but the comments from some of you are just downright silly.

And some of you.....the silly comments about Cal not being able to coach?? Give me a break. Is he perfect.....far from it. He's clearly demonstrated himself to be one of the best.

The truth is people want someone to blame when they are upset. That comes down to lack of maturity. It's a loss. As an adult, you move on and understand it's a game and you don't have to have anyone to blame to make you feel better.
 

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Roster is flawed
Only 2 shooters in starting five
Instead of attacking north south we settle for 17' jumpers
Bam cannot finish
No rim protection
Talent nowhere as good as originally thought
And that's gonna happen some years....I will take CAL's approach over tubby's any day of the week....I haven't given up on this team yet...but it will take Herculean efforts from Fox and monk to win the big 6 in a row.....This teams defense is so bad...and that makes me sad because defense is just effort
 
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anon_013cn8yrfncx2

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Roster is flawed
Only 2 shooters in starting five
Instead of attacking north south we settle for 17' jumpers
Bam cannot finish
No rim protection
Talent nowhere as good as originally thought

Who are you counting as a shooter other than Monk??
 
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ck-2

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Monk does it, Briscoe does it, Bam does it. It's okay if it goes in, but when it doesn't it looks bad.

But I think you should focus more on the rebounding. When the shot goes up, what are our other guys doing?

See, blaming the shooter is great, that's the easy thing to do. But when you truly analyze what's happening, you get a true understanding of the real problem. Nobody is putting a body on the other team. NOBODY. Missing shots is okay, the lack of rebounding is the problem.

Cal is not going to tell these guys to stop shooting, and he shouldn't. You can't tell these guys to score quickly, then turn around and say "don't shoot" . this team needs to get back to what they're good at, and that's running the ball down everyone's throat.

Again, Fox is the least of our problems, he played a great game last night.
I agree with everything you said here except for telling guys to stop shooting. Fox is a driver/slasher. He has a nice floater too. But he needs to develop that jumper in practice and on his own time. Not when we are down 4pts with 25 seconds on the shot clock. That's up to Cal to point out and STOP.

Monk needs to become more of a driver/slasher and get to the line. Get other teams players in foul trouble. He's a great shooter but he's either on fire or killing us. That's on Cal. If he won't listen put his *** on the bench. What's the worst that can happen lose by 20?
Rebounding also needs to be taught. But a lot of it is effort and want to. We give up a lot of offensive rebounds because 2-3 guys are out of position trying to come over and help going for a shot block. Another one of Cal's teachings.
The guy just needs superior talent to succeed the way he does things.
 
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Since you all are tired of Cal hopefully he will get another job so his replacement can be hired to bring in ****** four year players . We can slowly crumble like IU and become a has been like we were on our way to doing before Cal got here , will be fun .
This is garbage, we won more championships before Cals 1 and done philosophy and we will win some after he's gone. I have loved the last 7-8 years, We are not IU.
 

kyjeff1

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I agree the problem is the coaching. That's what I'm saying. Don't tell a guy that can't shoot to shoot. Not right at critical points in the game.
I wouldn't expect a magic tweak to fix this though. These guys can't guard. They get beaten off the dribble every time. The tweak needed would be Install an offense and defense.
This three guard lineup with Fox, Monk, and Briscoe is killing us. Who's he going to replace? I'm not saying I have the answer I don't. But I didn't get paid millions of dollars to put this team together either.

Does Cal evaluate talent or does he rely on McDonalds to do it for him?
See, that's not fair either. "Does Cal evaluate talent"? Come on, those are the words of someone that thinks this is a video game. You know, these other teams are talented too, they have good coaching and good veteran players that are good at exposing weaknesses.

These kids are extremely athletic and very talented, but they have one major flaw, they suck at being veterans. You want them to play like veterans and I'm sorry, but that's just not possible.

The bottom line is this. You can not fix this problem by changing the culture. As long as the one and done rule is in place you can forget about these talented kids just walking on the court and blowing out good teams. That's what you want, you want this to be a video game, but as long as these kids can jump after one year, because they simply have potential, there will be games like what we saw last night and there will be some early tournament losses.

Make it a 2 year rule and we will see the 2015 season as the norm.

There's a reason the 2010 team lost to Wva, the 2011 team lost a ton of road games and 2014 lost a ton of games with insane talent. Youth with some poor coaching decisions mixed in.

Make it a 2 year rule and Cal looks like the best coach that ever lived.
 
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Monk and Fox are really good scorers. I think we have a really good collection of guys that can play. It really comes down to putting them in the right position. Some of the guys take the open range to shoot to the wrong level. Monk was 0-7 last night until he started hitting. But, many of those 7 were bad shots. Guys just need to start being more unselfish. I think that will go a long way
 
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ck-2

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I'd love the two year rule. The 2010 team lost for the same reason I posted earlier. Cal let them stand out there and throw up one three after another. Going 4 for 32 from three against a 1-3-1 zone. All the while the future best center in the NBA was playing the post.
 
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kyjeff1

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I agree with everything you said here except for telling guys to stop shooting. Fox is a driver/slasher. He has a nice floater too. But he needs to develop that jumper in practice and on his own time. Not when we are down 4pts with 25 seconds on the shot clock. That's up to Cal to point out and STOP.

Monk needs to become more of a driver/slasher and get to the line. Get other teams players in foul trouble. He's a great shooter but he's either on fire or killing us. That's on Cal. If he won't listen put his *** on the bench. What's the worst that can happen lose by 20?
Rebounding also needs to be taught. But a lot of it is effort and want to. We give up a lot of offensive rebounds because 2-3 guys are out of position trying to come over and help going for a shot block. Another one of Cal's teachings.
The guy just needs superior talent to succeed the way he does things.
But again, you are ignoring the youth of this team. Cal makes this extremely hard by recruiting these one and done's. most coaches have their players for 4 years, the first three seasons are filled with these kids making bad decisions on the fly, yet we are criticizing Fox for making these mistakes, same mistakes that seasoned veterans make, in his freshman year. That's just not fair is it? The answer is no, it is not.

Fox needs to take that jumper at times, if it goes in, it should open the lane up for him for the next possession.

There's more to this game than a couple of missed shots.

But, don't get me wrong, it's still a bad shot, but I have more of a problem with the other 4 guys on the floor that are obviously ball watching.
 

Aike

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Who is guarding anyone right now? Fox is the least of our worries.
Some of you guys want to just throw everyone out on the street and get new players.
Some want 4 year players, but in the next sentence, complain about Willis and Hawkibs not being good enough.

I don't like this either, but I at least realize how hard this is and know that it's silly to try to make myself feel better by insulting 18 year old kids. If it makes you feel better to trash the kids on the team than be my guest.

The problem is the coaching, the hard headedness and the style that is being played. Cal is forcing a square peg into a round hole.

There will be a tweak right before tournament time, that's when fans like you all the sudden act like you loved these players the whole time.

A lot of the reason the tweak worked in 2014 was that we had an absolute monster in the middle in Randle.

He didn't just get buckets, but also averaged 12 rebounds during the 4 game run to the Final Four.

If I were going to pick one reason that this team can't get it done, it would be the lack of a Randle-type. The lack of effort on the interior.

It's looking a lot like the same problem we had last year. Elite guards and nothing else.

Bam hasn't had double figure rebounds since the UCLA game. That is unfathomable.

Some of that is scheme, with Bam getting caught away from the basket in switches, but a lot is effort.

He isn't getting caught on switches on the offensive end. But it leads us to another issue, which is losing Bam as an offensive rebounder when we try to run the offense through him.

My two cents is that we get Bam away from the basket. Scrap working to post him up time after time. Move the ball from side to side. Drive with the guards to score or kick. Get Bam easy looks when the guards are doubled or when he crashes the boards.

Do that 80% of the time and mix in a post up now and then. It's what we are built for, imo. Bam's energy and physicality is going to waste right now.
 

kyjeff1

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I'd love the two year rule. The 2010 team lost for the same reason I posted earlier. Cal let them stand out there and throw up one three after another. Going 4 for 32 from three against a 1-3-1 zone. All the while the future best center in the NBA was playing the post.
Can't disagree with that at all. Very poor coaching. John Wall at point with PPat and big Cuz down low, should never, ever lose to that West Virginia team. Duke proved it in the FF.
 

jboler

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Good grief, some of you need medication. How dare Cal go after the top players year after year, and how dare they come to UK. You all are nuts. Sometimes these top players get it and sometimes they don't. This group hasn't. Sometimes, it's just a miss.

And out of morbid curiosity, who do you think replaces Cal after reading this garbage? Mark my words, UK will regress big time after Cal leaves.
 

kyjeff1

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A lot of the reason the tweak worked in 2014 was that we had an absolute monster in the middle in Randle.

He didn't just get buckets, but also averaged 12 rebounds during the 4 game run to the Final Four.

If I were going to pick one reason that this team can't get it done, it would be the lack of a Randle-type. The lack of effort on the interior.

It's looking a lot like the same problem we had last year. Elite guards and nothing else.

Bam hasn't had double figure rebounds since the UCLA game. That is unfathomable.

Some of that is scheme, with Bam getting caught away from the basket in switches, but a lot is effort.

He isn't getting caught on switches on the offensive end. But it leads us to another issue, which is losing Bam as an offensive rebounder when we try to run the offense through him.

My two cents is that we get Bam away from the basket. Scrap working to post him up time after time. Move the ball from side to side. Drive with the guards to score or kick. Get Bam easy looks when the guards are doubled or when he crashes the boards.

Do that 80% of the time and mix in a post up now and then. It's what we are built for, imo. Bam's energy and physicality is going to waste right now.
I agree with all of that. There is a lot that can be done with this team, Cal is not using it correctly (my opinion). He says he coaches to his team's strengths. But he keeps trying to do the same things every year. Bam is not KAT or Cuz.

But also, one of our two biggest weaknesses is rebounding. I say scrap the 3 guards plan and put a bigger lineup in and focus on nothing but rebounding. Put a dam body on the opposite jersey.

Defense is the other. Figure out a defense that works. I don't care if it's Tubby's ball line defense, figure it out, this switching crap is not working.
 

Chuckinden

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I'd love the two year rule. The 2010 team lost for the same reason I posted earlier. Cal let them stand out there and throw up one three after another. Going 4 for 32 from three against a 1-3-1 zone. All the while the future best center in the NBA was playing the post.

I would like the "2" yr rule, but I would take the "0" year rule too.
 

awf

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Roster is flawed

Talent nowhere as good as originally thought


Bingo.......the fans start daydreaming with the next year's recruits. By the time they actually start playing they are held to a standard like no other.........I have seen post
daydreaming about NEXT year's starting line up. I am getting old enough to not want to hurry next year........
 
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sluggercatfan

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He did not seem too bothered. He said if they care they will listen to him and if they don't care they won't listen to him. Said they are 18-19 years old. Just going to have to figure it out. Going to see what we was doing before and not doing now. Said he liked his team and it was their job to listen and his job to tell them.
It's called a "bench" coach...they'll listen...you have lost them
 

awf

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I agree the problem is the coaching. That's what I'm saying. Don't tell a guy that can't shoot to shoot. Not right at critical points in the game.
I wouldn't expect a magic tweak to fix this though. These guys can't guard. They get beaten off the dribble every time. The tweak needed would be Install an offense and defense.
This three guard lineup with Fox, Monk, and Briscoe is killing us. Who's he going to replace? I'm not saying I have the answer I don't. But I didn't get paid millions of dollars to put this team together either.

Does Cal evaluate talent or does he rely on McDonalds to do it for him?

Do you think or do you just type?
 
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What I'm saying is Fox has proven he can't consistently knock down a jump shot. And in several games that we are making a run to cut the lead or about to extend our lead. Fox will come down the floor and throw up a 20ft shot early in the clock. That's on Cal! I've got an idea, maybe Cal should STOP telling guys that can't shoot to shoot. Same with Briscoe last year.
Thing is, shooters are going to shoot, all a coach can do is put them in a position where good things are more likely to happen when they shoot. E.g., Tatum is a chucker, but we can't bench him and he's gonna shoot anyway, so the staff has him setting up much closer to the basket, where a good thing (shot going in or free throws) is more likely to happen.

Maybe Cal needs to do some coaching instead of yelling?
 

ck-2

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Do you think or do you just type?
Do you have anything of substance to add that might give insight to your point of view?
Or do you just throw out insults?
I feel Ive given my viewpoint and think I made some valid points. I know everyone won't agree with what I've said. Some may agree with some of it. Some may agree with all of it. Some may agree with none of it. And that's all ok.
But it's posters like you I don't understand at all. Let's hear it.
 

Aike

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I agree with all of that. There is a lot that can be done with this team, Cal is not using it correctly (my opinion). He says he coaches to his team's strengths. But he keeps trying to do the same things every year. Bam is not KAT or Cuz.

But also, one of our two biggest weaknesses is rebounding. I say scrap the 3 guards plan and put a bigger lineup in and focus on nothing but rebounding. Put a dam body on the opposite jersey.

Defense is the other. Figure out a defense that works. I don't care if it's Tubby's ball line defense, figure it out, this switching crap is not working.

I'm ok with the 3 guard set, as long as Briscoe plays more as a facilitator.

But I also think with that lineup we need to extend the defense and wreak havoc. Get steals, force tempo, have fun again.

Why fall back to the 3 point line in halfcourt and let Briscoe become a sitting duck trying to guard a legit three? Or let the other team isolate against Wenyen/Willis? Or switch until Bam is on the PG?

I get why he wanted to establish Bam, but I don't think that style fits our personnel. Cal is risk averse, and having a solid post presence minimizes risk in the tourney. So does playing stifling halfcourt D where you knock shooters off the three point line and funnel them to the lane.

Unfortunately, I don't think we have the horses to play that way. I would rather be a little more riverboat gambler with the potential to make a deep run, than play it close to the vest and lose in the second round.

Even if we lose in the second round, I would rather go down swinging in a 100-99 game. That's who we are this year. We need to embrace it.

I think that if we do embrace it, we will see the effort level intensify.
 
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See, that's not fair either. "Does Cal evaluate talent"? Come on, those are the words of someone that thinks this is a video game. You know, these other teams are talented too, they have good coaching and good veteran players that are good at exposing weaknesses.

These kids are extremely athletic and very talented, but they have one major flaw, they suck at being veterans. You want them to play like veterans and I'm sorry, but that's just not possible.

The bottom line is this. You can not fix this problem by changing the culture. As long as the one and done rule is in place you can forget about these talented kids just walking on the court and blowing out good teams. That's what you want, you want this to be a video game, but as long as these kids can jump after one year, because they simply have potential, there will be games like what we saw last night and there will be some early tournament losses.

Make it a 2 year rule and we will see the 2015 season as the norm.

There's a reason the 2010 team lost to Wva, the 2011 team lost a ton of road games and 2014 lost a ton of games with insane talent. Youth with some poor coaching decisions mixed in.

Make it a 2 year rule and Cal looks like the best coach that ever lived.

There will be NO two-year rule, so we need to move on from there. Coach Cal needs to do a better job of getting players to focus on defense and rebounding. Players who do not HIT a high percentage of jump shots in practice should not be encouraged to shoot jumpers in close games. Our Bigs do not seem to be coached - what's with that?
 

Aike

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Thing is, shooters are going to shoot, all a coach can do is put them in a position where good things are more likely to happen when they shoot. E.g., Tatum is a chucker, but we can't bench him and he's gonna shoot anyway, so the staff has him setting up much closer to the basket, where a good thing (shot going in or free throws) is more likely to happen.

Maybe Cal needs to do some coaching instead of yelling?

Glad to see you're feeling cocky after that stirring home win over Pitt. Maybe you should head back to your own glass house.
 

awf

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Do you have anything of substance to add that might give insight to your point of view?
Or do you just throw out insults?
I feel Ive given my viewpoint and think I made some valid points. I know everyone won't agree with what I've said. Some may agree with some of it. Some may agree with all of it. Some may agree with none of it. And that's all ok.
But it's posters like you I don't understand at all. Let's hear it.

OK...........I think you are a damn idiot. Any one that poses the question, "Does Cal let McDonald's do his recruiting?", is either a hater.......of just a GD IDIOT! I was trying to be nice about it but you asked...................I thought I made that clear with my first post. I guess I will have to be less subtle the next time I think your post is ignorant.
 

BigBlueFanGA

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Since you all are tired of Cal hopefully he will get another job so his replacement can be hired to bring in ****** four year players . We can slowly crumble like IU and become a has been like we were on our way to doing before Cal got here , will be fun .
So that's the only outcomes? In the past 7 years, UConn has 2 titles, Duke has 2 titles, UK, UL and Nova have 1 each. In those 7 years we have had far more talent than anyone and in that fact, it isn't even close. UConn, UL, Nova and you really have to include Duke, have all done it with crappy 4 year players.
 

ck-2

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OK...........I think you are a damn idiot. Any one that poses the question, "Does Cal let McDonald's do his recruiting?", is either a hater.......of just a GD IDIOT! I was trying to be nice about it but you asked...................
I didn't say McDonalds was doing our recruiting. He evaluated Skal? He evaluated this team and thought this would work? That's what I was saying. Maybe it would work if he had the ability to adapt to what he's got.
Keep throwing out insults Internet tough guy. Makes you look smarter and validates what you say.
 

BigBlueFanGA

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OK...........I think you are a damn idiot. Any one that poses the question, "Does Cal let McDonald's do his recruiting?", is either a hater.......of just a GD IDIOT! I was trying to be nice about it but you asked...................I thought I made that clear with my first post. I guess I will have to be less subtle the next time I think your post is ignorant.
I think you're way out of bounds here. No one was calling names until you started. His statement about McDonalds was clearly tongue in cheek. Otherwise his statement was pretty accurate.
 
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ck-2

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Bingo.......the fans start daydreaming with the next year's recruits. By the time they actually start playing they are held to a standard like no other.........I have seen post
daydreaming about NEXT year's starting line up. I am getting old enough to not want to hurry next year........
You quote this message about talent being nowhere as good as thought. And say bingo.
Then say I'm an idiot for questioning Cal evaluating this team?
Which is it?
 

OHIO COLONEL

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See, that's not fair either. "Does Cal evaluate talent"? Come on, those are the words of someone that thinks this is a video game. You know, these other teams are talented too, they have good coaching and good veteran players that are good at exposing weaknesses.

These kids are extremely athletic and very talented, but they have one major flaw, they suck at being veterans. You want them to play like veterans and I'm sorry, but that's just not possible.

The bottom line is this. You can not fix this problem by changing the culture. As long as the one and done rule is in place you can forget about these talented kids just walking on the court and blowing out good teams. That's what you want, you want this to be a video game, but as long as these kids can jump after one year, because they simply have potential, there will be games like what we saw last night and there will be some early tournament losses.

Make it a 2 year rule and we will see the 2015 season as the norm.

There's a reason the 2010 team lost to Wva, the 2011 team lost a ton of road games and 2014 lost a ton of games with insane talent. Youth with some poor coaching decisions mixed in.

Make it a 2 year rule and Cal looks like the best coach that ever lived.
Since you can't 'like' a post more than once....thought I'd do it this way...LIKE.
 
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Aike

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So that's the only outcomes? In the past 7 years, UConn has 2 titles, Duke has 2 titles, UK, UL and Nova have 1 each. In those 7 years we have had far more talent than anyone and in that fact, it isn't even close. UConn, UL, Nova and you really have to include Duke, have all done it with crappy 4 year players.

We've had more talent come through here, but it doesn't mean every team was the most talented.

One of those Duke teams had its top 3 players as freshmen, so I wouldn't say they did it with crappy 4 year players.

Then we have blue bloods like Kansas, UNC, UCLA (if you want to call them a blueblood) who have no titles since Cal got here.

Neither do Arizona, IU, Syracuse, Michigan St. - come to think of it, a bunch of good teams who build more traditionally haven't managed to cash in.

I'm beginning to think it's just hard to win these things, no matter the model. But I would like to see a lot more effort. Last night's effort level was unacceptable.
 

awf

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I think you're way out of bounds here. No one was calling names until you started. His statement about McDonalds was clearly tongue in cheek. Otherwise his statement was pretty accurate.

The McDonald's statement was a shot at the way Cal recruits. I felt that statement was out of bounds.
.......I just disagreed with him but he is evidently slow so I had explained it to him in real world terms.......I think you're way out of bounds for your involvement here......I didn't realize you had a nickle in this dime.....
 

BigBlueFanGA

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We've had more talent come through here, but it doesn't mean every team was the most talented.

One of those Duke teams had its top 3 players as freshmen, so I wouldn't say they did it with crappy 4 year players.

Then we have blue bloods like Kansas, UNC, UCLA (if you want to call them a blueblood) who have no titles since Cal got here.

Neither do Arizona, IU, Syracuse, Michigan St. - come to think of it, a bunch of good teams who build more traditionally haven't managed to cash in.

I'm beginning to think it's just hard to win these things, no matter the model. But I would like to see a lot more effort. Last night's effort level was unacceptable.
Ok, but can I ask you a simple question. If Cal had to choose between getting more kids drafted and winning a championship, which one would he choose?
 

sluggercatfan

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I'd love the two year rule. The 2010 team lost for the same reason I posted earlier. Cal let them stand out there and throw up one three after another. Going 4 for 32 from three against a 1-3-1 zone. All the while the future best center in the NBA was playing the post.
Agree with most of this, but if Jodie had come back for his senior year...wow!!!
 

awf

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You quote this message about talent being nowhere as good as thought. And say bingo.
Then say I'm an idiot for questioning Cal evaluating this team?
Which is it?
You are putting words in my message. Show me where I said I doubted next years talent....Once again your reading comprehension is forcing your foot in your mouth.
I clearly stated that people build these guys up before they ever get here. Then when they do get here they don't live up to the prognostication then the same people are ready to throw them under the bus. Or they attack Cal's coaching abilities........all because of their lofty ideas.
 

Aike

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Ok, but can I ask you a simple question. If Cal had to choose between getting more kids drafted and winning a championship, which one would he choose?

I don't think it's a valid question, because I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

In fact, players who play a team game at a championship level are more likely to be drafted than players who fail.

The challenge is convincing the players that sacrificing for each other will actually lift all boats.
 
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Glad to see you're feeling cocky after that stirring home win over Pitt. Maybe you should head back to your own glass house.
Are you kidding? This Duke team is super flawed, I have no expectations we make it, at best, past the S16 this year. My point is that it's on the staff to understand what's broken and do the best coaching with the pieces they have.

I don't think UK has an elite team this year but I'd be very surprised if you don't make it farther than we do.
 

Aike

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Are you kidding? This Duke team is super flawed, I have no expectations we make it, at best, past the S16 this year. My point is that it's on the staff to understand what's broken and do the best coaching with the pieces they have.

I don't think UK has an elite team this year but I'd be very surprised if you don't make it farther than we do.

I just don't understand why a Duke fan is hanging out on a UK board criticizing our coaching. Fun hobby you have there.
 

BigBlueFanGA

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The McDonald's statement was a shot at the way Cal recruits. I felt that statement was out of bounds.
.......I just disagreed with him but he is evidently slow so I had explained it to him in real world terms.......I think you're way out of bounds for your involvement here......I didn't realize you had a nickle in this dime.....
I know it was, but it was tongue in cheek. Clearly no one actually thinks McDonalds does Cals recruiting. My involvement happened when you called him an idiot for daring to see things differently than you and you are the one misunderstanding his sarcasm. Now you double down by calling him slow. Guess what chief, you don't own this thread or this board. Anyone can have opinions that differ from yours and anyone can jump into a discussion. You lost your argument as soon as you started throwing grenades. (In case you didn't understand that last sentence. I don't actually think you threw a grenade.)
 
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I don't think it's a valid question, because I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

In fact, players who play a team game at a championship level are more likely to be drafted than players who fail.

The challenge is convincing the players that sacrificing for each other will actually lift all boats.
It's a valid question. I think they were mutually exclusive in the Wisconsin game, for one. Why keep kids in the game who are performing poorly and by his own words, aren't listening to him. He had other options. However, they don't need to be mutually exclusive to answer it. Everything Cal does is slanted towards getting kids drafted. You know as well as I do that if the question could ever be asked, Cal would choose getting kids drafted. It's not necessarily a bad thing, it's just a trickle down philosophy. I do think a lot of people are getting tired of it though.