Poor Kaepernick..

jmg75

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This is very similar to the Ray Rice situation.

Teams are taking into account how good K is and how much grief signing him will cause. If he were better at QB, or had less baggage, he'd be signed.

After the draft, he will be.

I also tend to think he will land somewhere after the draft. While he may look at himself as a starting QB, I am guessing many teams regard him as a good backup at this point, something he won't accept at this juncture. Later, after the draft when the dust has settled, perhaps he will change his mind if he still wants a job in the league. The NFL is a cold business and it is not entirely impossible that teams are leveraging his situation to pick up a reasonably priced insurance policy right around preseason. I think in the end he gets a job somewhere. But not as a starter.
 

jsol_05

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Locker room and publicity cancer and won't win you games. What a moron. All he had to do was not be an @sshole.

Stevie Wonder saw this coming.

Hello Canada.
So if he wasn't as you say an ******* and couldn't play he would be signed. I may not agree with what he did but it is his right as a citizen of the U.S. If he never plays in the NFL again and he stood up for what he believe to be right, I for one wouldn't call him an *******.
 

Caliknight

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So if he wasn't as you say an ******* and couldn't play he would be signed. I may not agree with what he did but it is his right as a citizen of the U.S. If he never plays in the NFL again and he stood up for what he believe to be right, I for one wouldn't call him an *******.

I never said he wasn't an *******. He is an *******. NFL teams ultimately make decisions. Is the baggage worth it because the player can help bring wins. Kapernick brings too much baggage. The juice isn't worth the proverbial squeeze, or he would be signed.

In his defense, there are a bunch of miscreants in that league who have done worse than him. But they can ball better. He is just a misguided moron who brings too much negative press in his wake.

Seems to be learning though. His beliefs were so stout and important that he announced he wasn't doing the stupid kneel anymore...all after NFL prospects took a big hit.

Looks like his agent got to to him a little too late.
 

yesrutgers01

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I never said he wasn't an *******. He is an *******. NFL teams ultimately make decisions. Is the baggage worth it because the player can help bring wins. Kapernick brings too much baggage. The juice isn't worth the proverbial squeeze, or he would be signed.

In his defense, there are a bunch of miscreants in that league who have done worse than him. But they can ball better. He is just a misguided moron who brings too much negative press in his wake.

Seems to be learning though. His beliefs were so stout and important that he announced he wasn't doing the stupid kneel anymore...all after NFL prospects took a big hit.

Looks like his agent got to to him a little too late.

His agent is his biggest supporter. I know that for a fact
 

yesrutgers01

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Caliknight

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Sounds like repping artists is a better place for him. The advice he apparently gave Kap will play much better in that world.

If he thinks there are bunch of pricks in sports, wait until he gets a load of the music biz.

That's some seriously disgusting sausage.
 

yesrutgers01

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Sounds like repping artists is a better place for him. The advice he apparently gave Kap will play much better in that world.

If he thinks there are bunch of pricks in sports, wait until he gets a load of the music biz.

That's some seriously disgusting sausage.
His agent would never advise someone to do something against their beliefs. He told him what may happen and let Kap make an informed choice. And the he did everything he could do to support him.
He is trended more toward painters rather than music.
Also one of the better men I have ever known.
 
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Caliknight

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Not making an idiot of yourself shouldn't be against your beliefs. He might be a good man but if he helped facilitate his client out of the NFL by encouraging him to do something so meaningless yet so highly detrimental, he isn't a good agent. Not surprised he is looking for other work.

There were plenty of much more effective ways for Kaepernick to get his point across without harming his career.

But he just couldn't do it. I am guessing he isn't so smart, which is where a competent manager comes in. The pig cop socks said it all. A petulant child who got his comeuppance.
 

yesrutgers01

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Not making an idiot of yourself shouldn't be against your beliefs. He might be a good man but if he helped facilitate his client out of the NFL by encouraging him to do something so meaningless yet so highly detrimental, he isn't a good agent. Not surprised he is looking for other work.

There were plenty of much more effective ways for Kaepernick to get his point across without harming his career.

But he just couldn't do it. I am guessing he isn't so smart, which is where a competent manager comes in. The pig cop socks said it all. A petulant child who got his comeuppance.
If you think it is meaningless, then you are an ignorant racist...
 

mikebal9

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I constantly read people saying there were plenty of other ways to get his point across without harming his career, but nobody ever gives examples. What could he possibly have done that would have drawn more attention to the issue? Please, enlighten me because I can't think of any.
 

Caliknight

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If you think it is meaningless, then you are an ignorant racist...

Sorry, wearing pig socks disrespecting police officers makes him ignorant. Praising Cuba makes him ignorant. Supporting BLM makes him ignorant and racist. Along with anyone who agrees with him.

If he wanted to really help, he would have played his *** off and made his hundred million and put those funds to real use.

As it is, he is fraud. A joker of high order who blew it. For if he was anything else, he would have actually made a difference. As it is, he is a footnote.
 

Harambe_be_my_qb

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Sorry, wearing pig socks disrespecting police officers makes him ignorant. Praising Cuba makes him ignorant. Supporting BLM makes him ignorant and racist. Along with anyone who agrees with him.

If he wanted to really help, he would have played his *** off and made his hundred million and put those funds to real use.

As it is, he is fraud. A joker of high order who blew it. For if he was anything else, he would have actually made a difference. As it is, he is a footnote.

You have lots of jokes for women and minorities and all kinds of people who lack power but cops are the protected class that you hold immune to joking. You decry politcal correctness yet cartoon animals depictions of the beloved authority figures that protect your status quo clearly violate your code of political correctness.

BLM isn't racist. It is people who rightly assert that the lives of black Americans have been treated as negligible and have a political platform for defending the value of the lives of black Americans. They have a website. You can read up on it and cure yourself of your ignorance.

Choosing a form of protest that pleases you is both pointless and impossible. Pointless because you are a troll. Impossible because you ignore the racial inequality that exists and nothing short of delusional ignorance of that reality will please you.
 

madchuck

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I constantly read people saying there were plenty of other ways to get his point across without harming his career, but nobody ever gives examples. What could he possibly have done that would have drawn more attention to the issue? Please, enlighten me because I can't think of any.

I am in the minority on this board and I support Kaepernick and think that he can still play. However, I think he could've done what he's doing without causing the distraction. He could've done all his donations and charity that he's doing right now without the kneeling. He could've been an activist on social media. He has 1.5 million followers on Instagram. He could've participated in any rally he wanted to in his free time. I think the problem for some is he did it prior to the game. His focus should've been on football. Once he leaves the stadium, he could be an activist.
 

madchuck

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You have lots of jokes for women and minorities and all kinds of people who lack power but cops are the protected class that you hold immune to joking. You decry politcal correctness yet cartoon animals depictions of the beloved authority figures that protect your status quo clearly violate your code of political correctness.

BLM isn't racist. It is people who rightly assert that the lives of black Americans have been treated as negligible and have a political platform for defending the value of the lives of black Americans. They have a website. You can read up on it and cure yourself of your ignorance.

Choosing a form of protest that pleases you is both pointless and impossible. Pointless because you are a troll. Impossible because you ignore the racial inequality that exists and nothing short of delusional ignorance of that reality will please you.

Trying to debate political issues on this board is useless.
 

cicero grimes

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I constantly read people saying there were plenty of other ways to get his point across without harming his career, but nobody ever gives examples. What could he possibly have done that would have drawn more attention to the issue? Please, enlighten me because I can't think of any.
Shaving his head for one.
 

MYHATINTHERING

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Sorry, wearing pig socks disrespecting police officers makes him ignorant. Praising Cuba makes him ignorant. Supporting BLM makes him ignorant and racist. Along with anyone who agrees with him.

If he wanted to really help, he would have played his *** off and made his hundred million and put those funds to real use.

As it is, he is fraud. A joker of high order who blew it. For if he was anything else, he would have actually made a difference. As it is, he is a footnote.
agree, hard to argue with this
 

Caliknight

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You have lots of jokes for women and minorities and all kinds of people who lack power but cops are the protected class that you hold immune to joking. You decry politcal correctness yet cartoon animals depictions of the beloved authority figures that protect your status quo clearly violate your code of political correctness.

BLM isn't racist. It is people who rightly assert that the lives of black Americans have been treated as negligible and have a political platform for defending the value of the lives of black Americans. They have a website. You can read up on it and cure yourself of your ignorance.

Choosing a form of protest that pleases you is both pointless and impossible. Pointless because you are a troll. Impossible because you ignore the racial inequality that exists and nothing short of delusional ignorance of that reality will please you.

Fake news. Where are all these jokes? Where did I state police are protected class? BLM isn't only racist, it's a terrorist organization and should be treated as such. You're a kin to a white person prasing the kkk.
 

yesrutgers01

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The socks were stupid. Believing in BLM is not. Not all of BLM are ignorant trouble makers but they get the press.
I get it when people are mad about him kneeling but that was how he chose to protest. Who are we to tell a person in which way they should voice or show their opinion. And he did this in a non violent way.
As for playing his *** off, what makes you think he didn't bring the best of his abilities to every game.
 

Caliknight

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I agree. He is free to do that. And people are free to blackball him or not sign him based on his actions. Though I would submit that it's highly inappropriate to do that in your place of business. At a minimum it's idiotic and detrimental. Few professsions would allow such behavior on work time. But it's the NFL and pro athletes we are talking about. Few would argue the league houses our greatest minds. It's entertainment, and Kap broke the first rule of business. Don't piss off the customer. Not sure giving him props for doing it in a non violent way is anything to really be that proud of. Sort of an expectation.

He may have brought everything he had to the game, but the preparation and focus on other issues that clearly permeated the locker room tells me he didn't do everything he could to win. I am sure dealing with the aftermath of his decisions took much focus and time away from doing what other players/teams were doing to be successful.

His play and their record are proof of that.
 

mikebal9

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I am in the minority on this board and I support Kaepernick and think that he can still play. However, I think he could've done what he's doing without causing the distraction. He could've done all his donations and charity that he's doing right now without the kneeling. He could've been an activist on social media. He has 1.5 million followers on Instagram. He could've participated in any rally he wanted to in his free time. I think the problem for some is he did it prior to the game. His focus should've been on football. Once he leaves the stadium, he could be an activist.
His 1.5m followers are a drop in the bucket compared to the hundreds of millions that have heard about this protest. You say his focus should be on football. I'd argue that his focus on human rights is slightly more important.
 

yesrutgers01

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His 1.5m followers are a drop in the bucket compared to the hundreds of millions that have heard about this protest. You say his focus should be on football. I'd argue that his focus on human rights is slightly more important.

the problem is...most on here arguing against this have never had to fear for their human rights or for the rights of their loved ones. Yes, maybe they fear if they are in a dark alley or lost in the woods not when they just have to run out on an everyday errand.
 

mikebal9

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the problem is...most on here arguing against this have never had to fear for their human rights or for the rights of their loved ones. Yes, maybe they fear if they are in a dark alley or lost in the woods not when they just have to run out on an everyday errand.
Just to be clear, I haven't either. I'm a white male.
 

madchuck

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His 1.5m followers are a drop in the bucket compared to the hundreds of millions that have heard about this protest. You say his focus should be on football. I'd argue that his focus on human rights is slightly more important.

You're right. But he knew when he choose to do that, there would be repercussions. I think he's probably dealing with them now. However, I'd be shocked if he wasn't signed at all. He's too talented.
 

REDRICH65

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Can Trump deport him to somewhere ? Maybe the Browns ? That way no one will see/ watch him.