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dinglefritz

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Right now we are sitting with Nixon as the sole "guarantee" at WR

And I am referring to this class which is not going well
Interesting that you would use the word WE. Your posting history would suggest that you're an Iowa fan.
 

HuskerLLM

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Interesting that you would use the word WE. Your posting history would suggest that you're an Iowa fan.

That's funny

Ive been a member of Husker boards going back to the Tough Tony Davis board which is the forerunner to Rivals and RSS

Go back and look at actual posting history
 

Mack In Motion

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We have approx 70-80 more than Rutgers and Purdue and over a 100 more than other B1G schools...just in conference

The only school I've found so far that has more would be Tennessee at over 480, Louisville has approximately a similar number to Nebraska

So what?
 

Mack In Motion

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I was answering that posters specific question

Got it.

I don't see why anyone would care about the offer numbers.

Of course, some people bitched about Pelini being "lazy" with recruiting (not enough offers) while some want fewer offers, some come up here wanting coaches to offer player x or y.

As long as there is something to criticize our coaching staffs over, I guess.
 
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Dicky Broseph

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Give me 10 elite and/or Rivals 250 members we are waiting on to fill this class.

I'll give you Johnson and Fleming...who else?
Patience young grasshopper...putting together a class is an art. Did not say we are gonna close with 10 all Americans, but they come first and the class is then filled based on need. Manning, Fleming, Johnson, Francois, green warren, Robinson, Robinson, Dennis, Marks. Then guys like Harrison, butler , Malani , Alante. Probably 5-6 Hs kids and 4-5 Jucos..a couple transfers. It is fluid and constantly changing.
 
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HuskerLLM

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Got it.

I don't see why anyone would care about the offer numbers.

Well it goes back to my previous post relating to extremely high number of offers (second or third most in the country) vs 14 commits and the ability to relationship build but I seem to be the only one that sees that as a huge red flag.

I've been told that its nonsense, that we are waiting to fill up with Rivals 250 prospects, I'm jerking off, and that my posting history shows me to be an Iowa fan even though I've been on this site for 15 years

I guess other posters are ok with where the class is and and where it is heading relative to winning the West and competing for B1G championships
 
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HuskerLLM

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Patience young grasshopper...putting together a class is an art. Did not say we are gonna close with 10 all Americans, but they come first and the class is then filled based on need. Manning, Fleming, Johnson, Francois, green warren, Robinson, Robinson, Marks. Probably 5-6 Hs kids and 4-5 Jucos..a couple transfers.

You realize Marks has said he is no longer visiting?
 

Dicky Broseph

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You realize Marks has said he is no longer visiting?
I saw something like that but I still see him listed. Listen, if we strike out it will be tough. BUT with manning, Fleming, Betts, Nixon..that would be our best WR recruiting class ever! Johnson and Gunnerson for OLB? Green Warren or Francois and Gray? We are talking about ELITE recruits. When you combine that with last years class you can see a team being BUILT. Could have a secondary with 3 HS all Americans..2 HS all American LBs..Hs all American DE. HS all American QB..3 HS all American wrs..2 Hs all American Tackles..Hs all American RB? As well as adding guys like Britt, Nelson, Jurgens, mills...just be patient.
 

WHCSC

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Well it goes back to my previous post relating to extremely high number of offers (second or third most in the country) vs 14 commits and the ability to relationship build but I seem to be the only one that sees that as a huge red flag.

I've been told that its nonsense, that we are waiting to fill up with Rivals 250 prospects, I'm jerking off, and that my posting history shows me to be an Iowa fan even though I've been on this site for 15 years

I guess other posters are ok with where the class is and and where it is heading relative to winning the West and competing for B1G championships

I don't see the point in judging a class before it's finished. And it's obvious to everyone else that you can put out a ton of offers and still develop relationships with the ones you choose to.
 
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I don't see the point in judging a class before it's finished. And it's obvious to everyone else that you can put out a ton of offers and still develop relationships with the ones you choose to.
Judging progress not judging the class. why is it so difficult to understand. We judge the football season every week based on how things look at that time.
 

WHCSC

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Judging progress not judging the class. why is it so difficult to understand. We judge the football season every week based on how things look at that time.

But how can you judge progress before you know the outcome? It can look like a hot mess right now and end up great.
 

dand84

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But how can you judge progress before you know the outcome? It can look like a hot mess right now and end up great.
Everything about this program is going to be under heightened scrutiny until things change. HCSF has made a BIG deal out of the players we have not being good enough, not bought in, to blame for our losses, etc. He and Moos have used that for 2 solid years. That excuse runs out this year, so therefore the focus has to now switch to recruiting as that is the only way to fix all these bad players and the lack of talent we have. Given HCSF's first class has now turned out to be a disaster, some people might go ahead an question only have 14 commits before signing day.

All of us understand that we MIGHT get a whole bunch of guys on signing day, but just call us glass half empty guys until we see proof because we very well might not as well.
 
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But how can you judge progress before you know the outcome? It can look like a hot mess right now and end up great.

then why have polls throughout the season? Why visit recruiting forums that discuss how recruiting is going in August if you are only interested in the February rankings.
 

WHCSC

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then why have polls throughout the season? Why visit recruiting forums that discuss how recruiting is going in August if you are only interested in the February rankings.

And discussing how recruiting is going is a lot different then judging recruiting as a failure when it's not done yet.
 
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And discussing how recruiting is going is a lot different then judging recruiting as a failure when it's not done yet.

SO FAR the class is leaving much to be desired. Again judging the progress not judging the final product
 

Headcard

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I think it can be tough to judge. I think our low numbers are cause for concern, but it is also a very good sign that we have pulled in some very highly ranked kids like Betts and Corcoran, we haven't done that in a long time. We were also able to get some kids that were clearly priorities like: Hutmatcher, Gunnerson, Smothers, Betts, Corcoran. It is concerning that we only have 14 commits, but it is not necessarily a good thing to load up and fill your class early, either. The tough thing about recruiting is that kids decide when they want to decide. In a perfect world, plan A decides and if he picks another school you move on to Plan B and then Plan C. But in recruiting, sometime Plan A wants to wait and you have to decide if you take Plan C's commit today, or wait, that has to be difficult. Overall, I am concerned with the low numbers to date, but I am confident we will end up with a solid class.
 

Dicky Broseph

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Man I am happy about Cocoran, Betts, Gunnerson, & Gray I tell you that. Essentially 4 HS all Americans at positions of need.(Coincidently at the same positions as the guys last year T, LB, WR, DB). Elite top of the class which has a chance to grow. I also love Morrison, Hutch, Smothers. Now, if we strike out on all top tier talent remaining that would be disappointing. Guys who do this for a living say we are gonna get a few more ELITE level players. I understand the nerves but I think we will be alright. Keep in mind we need 4-6 JUCO players to fill roster holes(Juco recruiting is slower). So we only need like 5-6 more HS players and we are in on some good ones.
 

rimsnef

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Times have changed. The transfer portal will always be there if there is a crisis in regards to recruiting a position.
I think Omar Manning could have been committed for a while. I never understood why it is kept silent. Maybe to avoid backlash from fellow Texans. Getting an offer from Texas A&M might change things. The transfer portal is only going to grow as bowl games end. You’re going to see guys that have been stuck in WR logjams entering the portal. Tommy Bush from Georgia is a good example of a guy that Nebraska really wanted 2 years ago, but hasn’t seen the field much at UGA. There are options out there. Even if Manning ends up at Nebraska, don’t be surprised if the staff scours the portal for WRs.
 

dand84

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TheBeav815

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SO FAR the class is leaving much to be desired. Again judging the progress not judging the final product
There's no way this class doesn't finish as a mild disappointment as far as I'm concerned. It will be a solid class, but it looks very unlikely to be ranked higher than last year's, which was the goal.

That's not a step in the direction I want to see. I am not aware of any realistic path they have into the Top 20 classes, let alone closer to the Top 15 where NU needs to get if they want to ever be an elite team again.

Not a knock on any of the kids at the top end of the class, but having 5 kids committed who are rated 4* as of December isn't good enough. Three teams in your conference have more than double that and OSU has triple that when you count their two 5* guys.

NU will finish with a couple more 4* guys than that, but they ain't catching PSU or Michigan. Spread that over four years and those teams are on pace to roster 40-60 guys 4* or better while we have 20-30. Ohio State is on pace to have over 60 guys above 4*. And that's your story on why Wisco was able to punch with them for a half but then got drowned in a sea of talent after halftime.

The silver lining is that NU will likely take a lot of kids again. If you can't get the best kids get a lot of kids and see who surprises you. This is the last year I want to see them so heavy into the JUCO ranks. But I get the desire to grab some older guys when your roster is so underclassmen-heavy.

I count 11 guys gone from the 2018 class of 22 enrollees. Lots of work still to be done just in terms of acquiring the talent needed to be the best team in the B1G West.
 
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John_J_Rambo

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There's no way this class doesn't finish as a mild disappointment as far as I'm concerned. It will be a solid class, but it looks very unlikely to be ranked higher than last year's, which was the goal.

That's not a step in the direction I want to see. I am not aware of any realistic path they have into the Top 20 classes, let alone closer to the Top 15 where NU needs to get if they want to ever be an elite team again.

Not a knock on any of the kids at the top end of the class, but having 5 kids committed who are rated 4* as of December isn't good enough. Three teams in your conference have more than double that and OSU has triple that when you count their two 5* guys.

They'll finish with a couple more 4* guys than that, but they ain't catching PSU or Michigan. Spread that over four years and those teams are on pace to roster 40-60 guys 4* or better while we have 20-30. Ohio State is on pace to have over 60 guys above 4*. And that's your story on why Wisco was able to punch with them for a half but then got drowned in a sea of talent after halftime.

The silver lining is that NU will likely take a lot of kids again. If you can't get the best kids get a lot of kids and see who surprises you. This is the last year I want to see them so heavy into the JUCO ranks. But I get the desire to grab some older guys when your roster is so underclassmen-heavy.

I count 11 guys gone from the 2018 class of 22 enrollees. Lots of work still to be done just in terms of acquiring the talent needed to be the best team in the B1G West.
I was told having less talent is an excuse for losing. Are you saying that's incorrect?
 

egaRdeR

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Kind of hard to make the kid feel wanted and develop a special bond when you are throwing out offers all over the place

Oh, and I am a retired VP of North American Sales so I know a little about relationship development, travel and remote salesmanship

How is selling paper supplies anything like recruiting"?
 

TheBeav815

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Ya, you didn't believe me last class on Bland either and made a big deal out of that when I told you to wait and see if he signed with anyone on either LOI day...and he didn't
Zero recollection of what you're talking about, but I'll assume it's in my client notes in your roll-a-dex. How is Bland not making grades relevant to whether coaches are good enough at relationship building to be the vice president of sales someplace?
 

Dicky Broseph

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Keyshawn Greene is visiting right before signing day and you guys are in here talking about nonsense. The fastest LB in the country, instinctive..down hill LB..exactly what we missed last year. It is essentially down to NU vs Miami. This is getting real spicy! You guys are in here being winy and this may be the best class NU has ever had. We are in on some talent..

Lb- Johnson and Greene
WR- manning, Fleming, Robinson
DB- Green Warren and Francois
 

huskerssalts

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Well it goes back to my previous post relating to extremely high number of offers (second or third most in the country) vs 14 commits and the ability to relationship build but I seem to be the only one that sees that as a huge red flag.

I've been told that its nonsense, that we are waiting to fill up with Rivals 250 prospects, I'm jerking off, and that my posting history shows me to be an Iowa fan even though I've been on this site for 15 years

I guess other posters are ok with where the class is and and where it is heading relative to winning the West and competing for B1G championships

I’m ok with where are recruiting is at. If we land Kaden Johnson, Marcus Fleming, Omar Manning (yes we are very much in with him and could land him), J Butler, J Coates and few others...that’s a very solid class. And we aren’t the only program that puts out a high number of offers. There are plenty of other top programs that do that and do just fine.

So far Frost has killed it doing it this way. Top 20 class, Top 15 class and now appears to be on our way to another top 25 class. So yeah...you’re definitely WRONG here. So Until we see Frost fail in recruiting and his process how he goes about doing it, he’s doing it right and you’re most definitely wrong...AGAIN. ;)
 
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