Over rated ? Rick might be an ******* , but he can coach . v. Most 15 seeds dont fail to " go up in flames " that a bad take Mr Irish ..
Pitino and Iona
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Over rated ? Rick might be an ******* , but he can coach . v. Most 15 seeds dont fail to " go up in flames " that a bad take Mr Irish ..
Actually he has been a terrible NCAA tournament coach since he left UK. That isn’t opinion. That is based on his record.
No I don't want UK in trouble I love all things UK but you all sit here and talk **** about Pitino when he brought UK back from the ashes. I'm just pointing out that yes Louisville has been busted and yes Pitino did stupid **** at Louisville but so did Calipari at Memphis and UMass so it's the same ****!Well you can hope can’t you?
I am talking facts about Pitino. All facts. A simple google of his record shows he was a failure in March at UL. And the only response I get to any of it is “but but but Cal!!!!”
It is beyond laughable.You can say what you want to against Pitino but he is a great X & O coach. He did a lot to bring UK back to the top after what UK went through. I was pulling for Iona because they were the underdogs.
While watching it you could see the way he had his team ready. Played good defense and played with a passion but was just up against better team. Like many I want to see UK playing like that again.
While watching it you could see the way he had his team ready. Played good defense and played with a passion but was just up against better team. Like many I want to see UK playing like that again.
If you are talking about removing the vacated stuff, then yes, his record is less than stellar since his return to UL. If you count what actually happened, then he is far from terrible:
6 Elite Eights
3 Final Fours
1 Title
You don’t get to count years vacated for cheating. After four years were vacated for cheating, Jurich kept them out of the following year for guess what? Cheating!
Then Pitino was back to his old self his last year at UL- a first weekend flameout.Yep, take those out and less than stellar. Same with Cal’s tournament success prior to UK.You don’t get to count years vacated for cheating. After four years were vacated for cheating, Jurich kept them out of the following year for guess what? Cheating!
And he only had 3 Elite 8s. Not 6. You don’t count Elite 8s the years he went to the final four.
Exactly. Yet people on here act like Pitino is some coaching genius. He isn’t and his March record reflects that.
Yeah, I’ve seen it both ways. Agree that as a coach, you probably only count them if that’s as far as they go. As a program, you count all of them.
Well I don’t think of counting Elite 8s for Cal the years he made the final four. Only the years that is where the team lost.
I do NOT want to see Bama win it in basketball and football. We would never hear the end of it. The SECN would be unbearable to even watch.
2 final fours and a title since he left UK, sure.
One final four and zero titles. U don’t count the ones vacated ones no matter bad the nut huggers want to try. No credit for cheating.
He’s done it his whole career. Always thought what he done with Nazr Mohammed was just incredible. Dude went from a project to All SEC performer and a first round draft pick.
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I don't think you have to worry about that as Pitino made them look bad today. They are not going to win it all.
They happened, just like Cal’s happened. Until the UNCAA starts hammering these other schools for worse, I’ll count them in my mind. This whole selective enforcement on who gets the hammer is absolute BS.
Well you may count them but before he cheated at UL he did nothing. Then miraculously he went to final fours. Then after cheating? He flames out in the first weekend in his last year like he did 7 out of 10 years at UL before he cheated.
Soooo can we discredit Cals 2 final fours and runner up in 2008?
Meh. If they punished all these schools accordingly, there would be no coaching records available for any blue blood coach or the next tier down.
so he cheated to get his players but you don’t think that required coaching to get them to a title and 2 FFs? Ok.
He was still better here than Cal. I really don’t care what he did at Louisville. What he did here, post probation, was better than anything Cal has accomplished here.
Well that’s like saying if you steal someone’s car and you’re charged in your county and someone steals one and not charged, you shouldn’t be prosecuted because they weren’t. Which is totally ridiculous.
His record speaks for itself when he wasn’t cheating. It doesn’t count since he cheated and the wins were vacated. It isn’t that hard to comprehend.
That doesn’t mean UL shouldn’t be punished because others weren’t. That isn’t a defense. UL cheated.
You’re being obtuse on purpose. They were vacated but he still won a title and got to 2 final fours. So your assertion that he wasn’t a good tourney coach after KY is incorrect.His record speaks for itself when he wasn’t cheating. It doesn’t count since he cheated and the wins were vacated. It isn’t that hard to comprehend.
It isn’t that hard to comprehend.
There is zero official record of those wins. He was a good tournament coach only when his program cheated. Period. Just like there is zero wins or bowl wins for SMU football in the 80s when they cheated. The same applies.
9 out 16 years Pitino didn’t make the ncaa tournament or flamed out in the first weekend. And that’s giving him credit for the cheating years. You explain to me how that made him a great coach. Because frankly that sucks ***.
I liked 90's UK Pitino more than I like 10's UK Cal. Thats it for me on this subject.
9 out of 16 years? I guess you’re still rambling on about the “vacated” years. Like I said, if they hammered duke, ku and the cheats accordingly, none of those coaches would even be considered for the HOF.
Pitino is a great coach. He’s better than Cal. Matter of fact, Cal said himself that Pitino was the best coach in the game. Great coach, no matter how much you want to discredit him.
We nearly neat ul with an nit team, during their national title year, at their place.
Iirc this iona team was senior laden and went to the big dance last five years. He's good but let's not act like he resurrected a dead program when they were clearly doing well before
He still coached those games that were vacated. It wasn't a fake performance. He's a good coach regardless of the vacated games. Stop trolling
Clock ticking on IU calling Pitino now that Iona lost. Let's see if there was anything to the rumor
Pitino not going anywhere! He is in heaven at Iona and wants no part of the big programs anymore. LOL! These coaches just say this junk and actually think people believe them.