Pitbulls? Thoughts?
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A firearm. Just sayin'. I carry a firearm mostly for 2 legged predators but if a dog attacks me or my family I have no qualms about putting it down before it kills whoever it attacks. Pepper spray is a other option if you don't like firearms.
Not much into his music. Didn't even know who he was when people talked about Pitbull.
Forget pit bulls- can we please get back to talking about Chiropractors?
Pits aren't evil, but they're not for beginners IMO. I train dogs and the average dog owner doesn't know a damn thing about dogs. Yet shelters are overrun with pits from all the a-holes dog fighting so they are a dime a dozen.
This one should be put down after attacking a kid like that. There just isn't a solution really unless dogfighting just stops being a thing, then the breed will rapidly decline.
They are more powerful and more intense pound for pound, that's why they're the chosen breed for fighting. Once they attack it's hard to make them stop. They can be incredibly stubborn and they're strong as hell.
Lots of terriers can be nasty little ***** but when a Westy bites you, you don't make the news.
This one should be put down after attacking a kid like that. There just isn't a solution really unless dogfighting just stops being a thing, then the breed will rapidly decline.
They are more powerful and more intense pound for pound, that's why they're the chosen breed for fighting. Once they attack it's hard to make them stop. They can be incredibly stubborn and they're strong as hell.
Lots of terriers can be nasty little ***** but when a Westy bites you, you don't make the news.
FWIW a GSD jumped the fence and killed a little dog in its own yard in my neighborhood recently. Dogs kill other dogs all the time.
I have a big black lab who has been in his share of fights even though people think labs are nothing but docile.
I like to view the problem as a whole rather than just one pigeonholed view on the matter. The problem doesn’t exist because of one factor rather it’s a bunch of small things that make this problem what it is. Over population of the breed, poor breeding habits leading to health defects such as poor temperament, poor ownership, misidentification, etc. There are plenty of directions to point our fingers here, none of them deserve any less blame than the others.
Bad breeding is very bad though and the dogs those people are producing do not have the health of the animal in mind. I always look to a situation in the dog fighting world where they use inbreeding to create a more aggressive dog. The offspring here often make it in to people homes or other backyard breeders where even more are produced. This is a bad deal they have going here and it’s not even the dog fighters who are alone here. The idiots breeding these dogs for color or other traits related to their appearance. Most people don’t take this stuff in to account and instead they say something must be wrong with the dog itself. You’re damn right theres something wrong with the dog, they’re inbred offspring to inbreds. Seriously, WTF do you think an inbred bloodline will be like?
These problems simply don’t exist on the same scale to quality bloodlines.
So if it's the people who are the problem (by your statement I think you admit it's a problem), what do you propose, if anything, to do? Do you have to be certified to own one? Licensed? Trained? Or are you OK with the current human death rate for the breed?
LOL man up, you don't need a gun against a dog. I've broken up my share of dogfights and it certainly never required a weapon.
You don't understand what a dog trainer is and you're asking me to explain it to you?
I’ve explained my biggest issue in a post above but stated that it’s more than any one issue that contributes here. My biggest issue is the poor breeding habits that go on with the breed. Some blame ownership and the conditions the animal lives in. There is no one way of seeing the problem.
I don’t know how to remedy the problem but I do think breeding of any dog should be regulated just to keep over population in check and the bloodlines clean.
You get all kinds of wildass inbreeding with dogs. Pay attention sometime to the difference between the rear legs on a good police GSD or Belgian and the mutant hips they've bred into show GSDs, it's a travesty.
There was an interesting study on how much more prone chocolate labs are to health issues because that's a recessive coat color.
The dogfighting situation is a mess, they're breeding them for fighting, keeping them unfixed, the ones they don't want they just dump somewhere and let them run stray and unfixed.
Don't get me started on the brachocephalic breeds, you wanna talk about something that ought o be banned, THAT inhumane garbage ought to be illegal.
I have studied a few courses in genetics and that does't make me an expert in any way, but I have suspected a big problem with these pure bred lines could be inbreeding. Just like humans, if cousins marry, there can be mental defects in the offspring. IMO some of these breeders sire dogs in the same species and subspecies (breeds) with too close of relatives and the offspring are born with some degree of insanity. I think some of the dogs are just insane from a genetic standpoint, all in the name of money. just too many paired recessive genes in the mix.
Yeah I’ve seen several German Shepherds that had terrible hip dysphasia rather early on, more so than other breeds I’ve seen.
As far as coats go color breeding is a terrible route to take if you want healthy bloodline. I didn’t know that the chocolate lab had health issues due it’s coat but I do know that in some breeds the dilutes have a ton of health issues, mainly the skin. Dilutes being the blues, lilacs, etc. People breed for those traits and then you have dogs that are prone to mange, grass allergies, flea bites, etc. How do many of them bring out certain traits in a bloodline? They take the route of inbreeding which also brings out many other undesirable traits in an animal. Inbreeding is actually a breeding tool but the people who know what the hell they’re doing don’t abuse it and they don’t use it for irresponsible reasons such as inbreeding to create aggressive animals.
I’m not sure many would know what you mean by brachocephalic breeds. I like the little frenchies but I do understand what you’re saying and I agree. I know it’s been done to the breeds for more than one reason but none of them had health in mind. Some of these dogs sound like they’re choking while they’re sleeping, it’s kind of sad.
I have a boxer. He is a great dog. He's part of my family. He snores at night, but is generally as healthy as any dog.
That's quite a list of dogs you would ban.
I'm sure he's a lovely dog but it should be illegal for people to breed them shortfaced like that, it's cruel. Boxers are usually not too bad with it, but the English bulldog and pug are an absolute disaster.
What's really awful are the Cavalier King Charles Spaniels. They can develop a condition where the skull stops growing but the brain doesn't and they basically get excruciating pain from the intracranial pressure.
Adopt a mutt from the pound with a great temperament. Will be healthy as a horse, and cost you about $100.
The right of the public to be safe is more important than dog ownership of a specific breed. I think cities should ban ownership of the most aggressive breeds of dogs. And pit bulls make that list. People say, oh but my pit bull is so gentle with our kids and he's a "sweet heart". Well, sure that's true, but tell that to the poor, innocent soul who approaches your house at the wrong time.
Are you talking about taking away guns? I haven't heard a lot of stories of humans biting others to death.
You could carry a knife, but I'm afraid that you could wind up in some sort of investigation or possible legal trouble if you stabbed an aggressive dog that attacked you.
I don't care about a dog fight, I care about a 75-100 lbs dog on top of my 2 year old, wife, or me. I'm not breaking that up, I'm ending it. You aren't going to get a large dog seeing red off of its "prey" by hitting it with a newspaper and calling it a bad boy.
I see. The Cavalier and Pug look like their eyes will come out of their skulls. I didn't know that about the pressure. I wouldn't want a dog to live a life of misery.
Good information and thank you.
The right of the public to be safe is more important than gun ownership of a specific kind.
OOOOOO LOOK WHAT I DID
If you ban the most aggressive breed, the number 2 takes its place, so on and so forth until were left with worthless neurotic cesspools of garbage geneology, incapable of doin anything other than bark, puke, piss and ****
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