Pippen was protected all night sec refs.

RoyKent

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This happens when you are the better team and have a lot of size. Starr’s last two fouls should have never been called . Pippen initiated the contact and the refs are afraid to call it. It’s awful.

Pippen got called for 4 fouls and only shot 4 FTs...how was he protected "all night"?

Some of the people on here need their brain checked.
 
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One thing I noticed last night was that a ref who was out of position would be the one to make a call several times. The white guy made a call when he was across the floor and no way he could have saw the play for the bodies between him and the play. Green also made one where he was behind the player and made the call when he couldn't have known from his position if there was contact or not.

At this point I am in the camp that 4 refs are needed as it is just too hard for 3 guys, when most of them are older and not as fast, to keep up with the speed of todays game.
 
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I'll preface my comments with the caveat, "I hate discussing officiating." It feels lame and "excuse-driven." Nonetheless, here I am participating in another officiating thread. That said, mcbb officiating is TERRIBLE. SEC officiating is atrocious and seems to be the worst of all the major conferences. IMO, no sport is effected more by the officiating than mcbb. The "product" has become nearly unwatchable. IMO, they are TOO involved in the game. Officials absolutely affect the outcome of games. IMO, it is very unfortunate, and I think it is ruining the game.

I feel like many of these comments can all be true. Vandy was almost exclusively a jump shooting team the majority of the game. Why would they draw as many fouls as UK who was feeding the post constantly and driving to the basket? It was clear. Vandy was fouling and hacking the crap outta Sarr. It was clear it was part of their game plan. The "word" is out on Sarr. Sarr has a tendency to play "soft." Vandy tried to rough him up. It was clear as day. Vandy should have been called for 10+ more fouls than UK. It was part of their "game plan." UK hit their FTs, so that part of Vandy's game plan didn't work.

Further, Pippin (an excellent player) was creating nearly all of the contact on his "fouls". I hate that part of the game. A player shouldn't get that call when they intentionally seek the contact. However, that is the game today. Credit to the kid. He was smart enough to take advantage of the "calls."
 
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The fact that Miss St played 30 minutes of basketball in the 2nd half and 2 OT's and only committed 5 fouls with 1 of those being to stop the clock at the end should tell you all you need to know about SEC refs. As physical as the game is now a days a team will commit more than 4 fouls in 30 minutes of gameplay just in incidental contact alone.
 

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Ridiculous, simple recipe, drive the lane, initiate a shoulder bump, whistle!

UK players driving the lane get bumped all night, no whistles. :oops:

Glad uk got the w though.

Wow...

Did not expect to see this thread but probably should have (there's one in every bunch).

What do you think the free throw comparison between the two teams was last night?
 
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Pippen got called for 4 fouls and only shot 4 FTs...how was he protected "all night"?

Some of the people on here need their brain checked.
On Sarr two foul calls.. I believe one was legit . Sarr put his arm elbow into the Pippen and redirected him .. that is a foul. The other was ridiculous Pippen throwing shoulder into Sarr who was legally guarding
 
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KyFaninNC

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It has come to the point that I expect every SEC game to be horribly officiated. Some team seems to get hosed every game. And it is not always UK getting hosed. We shot 20 more free throws than Vandy, I am sure Vandy fans think they got hosed.
 

Friedas_Boss

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UK shot 20 more free throws more than Vandy and we are complaining about the refs.

Seriously?

 

Friedas_Boss

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UK shot 20 more free throws more than Vandy and we are complaining about the refs.

Seriously?
My thoughts exactly.
Pippen shot 4 free throws----and was called for four fouls.

Hate to see what would have been had they not protected him... 🤣
This. I be damned if I understand some fans thinking.
Pippen got called for 4 fouls and only shot 4 FTs...how was he protected "all night"?

Some of the people on here need their brain checked.
He got the Jordan treatment. I may be wrong but he only shot 4 free throws all game. I wonder if we watch the same game sometimes
This board has completely lost its collective mind. That game was HORRIBLY officiated, but if anything it was slightly in Kentucky’s favor. Period.

Y'all have restored my faith in humanity!

Peace, homies.
 

EliteBlue

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I thought he got the Jordan treatment last night, especially the 4th foul on Sarr who didn't even initiate contact.

Then Greene stares down Sarr for raising his hands up in frustration.

Some of these refs need to have their ego's checked.
Greene is notorious for his ego and is constantly doing the stare down and antagonizing players and coaches. He seeks it out.
 

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This board has completely lost its collective mind. That game was HORRIBLY officiated, but if anything it was slightly in Kentucky’s favor. Period.
I don't think so. I think the number of foul calls and how close they call it handcuffs more athletic teams like Kentucky. No flow to the game, ever, when they call more than 25 fouls per game. It's ridiculous.
 

ScottGreene22

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Pippen Jr. is out for revenge on Feb 17th. He got a lot of favorable calls last night. He told a reporter last night Kentucky was his dream school and was upset not getting an offer from Calipari.
 
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fabcat

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This. I be damned if I understand some fans thinking.

And people wonder why UK fans get a bad rap. It’s always the officials or it’s always something else. Pippen was just better than anyone on the floor. He was hard to guard. If it was reversed and he played for us. Same ones would be bitching that he only shot 4 free throws. SMH
 

LineSkiCat14

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I don't think last night was a good example on bad officiating for UK, but lord knows there's half a dozen examples every year.

We got a lot of their guys in foul trouble, they finished with more fouls than us.. however, we WERE home, and Tony Greene definitely made it known he was going to 1. make a show of it and 2. show his disdain for UK. Still, despite Sarr fouling out and some bad calls on us, I would take last night's officiating every single day.

There are games were we can barely put 5 guys on the court because of foul trouble, where we have almost doulbe the fouls as the other team, and games where they can hang all over our bigs and hack and grab for no calls. THOSE are the problem games.
 

8titles_rivals270261

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I don't think last night was a good example on bad officiating for UK, but lord knows there's half a dozen examples every year.

We got a lot of their guys in foul trouble, they finished with more fouls than us.. however, we WERE home, and Tony Greene definitely made it known he was going to 1. make a show of it and 2. show his disdain for UK. Still, despite Sarr fouling out and some bad calls on us, I would take last night's officiating every single day.

There are games were we can barely put 5 guys on the court because of foul trouble, where we have almost doulbe the fouls as the other team, and games where they can hang all over our bigs and hack and grab for no calls. THOSE are the problem games.
45 fouls called in the game last night. When you average more than 1 foul per minute of play there is an issue. It's brutal to watch. I think TV helps mask it a bit since you have replays and other things to take your mind off of just how bad the flow is, but being at the Rupp last night it was brutal. Something really needs to be done about it but the NCAA will never step up to make the changes necessary to get consistency.
 

qwesley

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I hope Askew was paying attention to how he was setting up people and using angles to get shots up. I will take those skills over wingspan every day.
 

ala_kat2

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Pippen Jr. is out for revenge on Feb 17th. He got a lot of favorable calls last night. He told a reporter last night Kentucky was his dream school and was upset not getting an offer from Calipari.
He’s definitely Cal’s type of point guard the way he’s able to penetrate and dish. Guess he wasn’t ranked high enough.
 
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