Pikiell Cant Recruit
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Dave is right. Just enjoy the commitment. It’s okay to have nice things as a Rutgers fan. Things are on the up as a Rutgers fan. There is a 99% chance he stays committed. Why worry about it?
Why is it so hard for you to be optimistic?
i don’t understand this. I am a fan. By nature fans are biased and something good happened. I am excited and have been on this board long enough to know everyone is going to worry. There is a group of people who bend over backward to point out the negative anytime something good happens and then when called on it suddenly get in a huff and call themselves “objective.”
a good thing happened to Rutgers. Several good things this week. Be excited!
I’m not talking about this commitment specifically. Both SantaFe and I enjoyed this commitment. But it makes no sense for Dave to say something like that. The criticisms about Pike were not wrong.
It’s you who just can’t enjoy the excitement. It’s also nature that fans questioned Pike’s recruiting and offense ( but these can be changed, right?). Isn’t this thread supposed to be full of excitement and expectation? Instead, 50% of the posts here are sarcasm and personal attacks.
To say something like “I can’t wait for six months of ‘did he sign yet?’ Posts?” Because historically on this board there’s a ton of posts like these any time we get a big time commit because 50% of this board always expects our best players to decommit even though it is pretty rare in hoops.
Lol. I don’t remember this board but I’m the only one on OTB predicted Rutgers can end up with 12-8 after the NW loss.
First I don't think these guys are talking about you here. They called out the guys who were constantly whining. About everything.
Second the criticism was NOT warranted. He came into a mess and landed Geo who was under the radar. Next year he gets RHJ, Caleb and Mathis. Following year he lands a 4 star in Mulcahey meanwhile bringing in transfers that helped us get to the dance 3 years in a row. Now he’s landing guys like Cliff and Gavin. Steady progression so I Don’t accept it was warranted criticism. It was BS.
Yeah...but many of us will never get back the hours of trying to reason with you.
And something tells me that at the first sign of trouble waters, you'll be right back to your old ways
I hope i am wrong
What you say is true, but this thread is about Pike’s recruiting, and the article clearly makes the case that Pike and staff handled this superbly.
If the kid had given a verbal to Duke, some on this board would have jumped all over it, saying Pike lost another recruiting battle. And very few would be saying, meh, let’s see how the #28 recruit in the nation pans out first.
Yeah...agree with this take
There was plenty of room in the conversation for Pike needing to land more Cliffs (which he has just done)
But the amount of noise and thread disruption from the very vocal few would just ruin essentially every thread.
Actually glad most of them are waiting in the weeds...the boards are much more readable with them gone
And btw, that's not saying we cant/shouldn't criticize. Again, meaningful criticism of the program and coach is good and healthy. But that group of peckerheads went waaaaay over the line (and were just factually incorrect on top of it)
Ok, off soapbox...
The criticisms are crazy. Pike is an A+ coach and probably a B recruiter. He not a slimy sales guy and we are never going to be facing sanctions for cheating with him as coach. Enjoy it instead of criticizing.
I love this commitment and the Fact his family seems to be all in. The article by Fonseca was great.
Maybe you missed the nuance but this thread is indeed supposed to be a sarcastic shot at posters who have continually claimed Pike can't recruit ad nauseum on this board.
Revenge of the pikeeeeeez
It's not that they don't matter. It's that some people seem to think we need 2 4 stars every year to be good
Your second sentence is totally correct. Your first sentence needs work. It's a two star post overall.
Starting to think the definition of a true asshat is someone unable to enjoy good news under any circumstance.
The criticisms are not crazy. He is not perfect and has weaknesses. So he can be criticized.
So if your not perfect you should be criticized? I hope you don’t manage people or have kids.
I think many have been way over the top in their very tough criticism off Pike, but you're implying nobody should be given constructive feedback ("criticism") on their performance and what things they could possibly do to perform better. (with lots of positive feedback on what they're doing well also: behavioral studies have shown the optimal mix is 4:1, positive:constructive feedback). When that kind of feedback is given (in private, generally) with the clear intent to help that person improve and not to punish them, it can be extraordinarily effective. I have managed small and large groups of people and taught hundreds of other managers these tools as a side gig at work for 15 years. And yes, it can work well at home, too, although that's more challenging to do well.
It's not. What players are in High School is less important than what they develop into later. Pike and his staff develop talent. Players that he recruits actually get better. That hasn't been the case at RU for the better part of 3 decades.
I hope you don’t manage people or have kids. You have low expectations. Too bad your kids/employees can never learn, improve or grow.
On the contrary you can manage people and not be a dickhead to them and still have the learn, improve and grow. Usually they learn, improve and grow faster in supportive environments rather than ones where mistakes are not tolerated. You should try it sometimes you'd be shocked at the results.
Tolerated? I never said we should fire Pike. I said we should set the bar high and Pike needs to do better in recruiting and offense if he wants more.
Wait now you want to talk about Pike again instead of managing people or having kids? That was a hasty retreat.
But where does firing Pike come up? You're all over the place.
I hate to make enemies on this board but I feel the OP just invited the a-holes (they know who they are) to come out of the woodwork. Why can't the moderators delete un-constructive threads like this. I'd like a response since I've been a paying customer for a long time. It makes the board unreadable.
So much bickering back and forth these days quoting posts to win arguments when we should all be happy with the recent revelation that quietly Rutgers began playing the game.
Hopefully we land this kid
Hopefully we land this kid
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