Peter KISS?

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FELONIOUSMONK

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We ran into his parents in the lot on the way out. The mom was very sweet but frustrated . They drive here from Connecticut I guess . Good kid nice family needs to move on.
 
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Pils86

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If he does not have an injury or discipline issue shocked he did not get some time. If I were giving him advice I would try to parlay his grad transfer year into an Ivy MBA or law program.
 

Scarlet Shack

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Writing is 9n the wall for Kiss. I've seen this far too many times. They have no use for him.

IMO Caleb should transfer to. He's totally being done wrong. Best shooter best free throw shooter no plays are ran for him. Not because he's not playing well but their interest is clear. Geo, who has clearly been inconsistent. Ron/Paul hometown cooking. Very evident when Caleb's in the game he plays well. Only playing 20 minutes. Sounds extremely political and fishy. From what I heard these were the same reasons Eugene left. Plus other reasons. IMO Caleb should transfer out! Go where he's totally appropriated for his services.

Ridic
 

dconifer0

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higgins3

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We ran into his parents in the lot on the way out. The mom was very sweet but frustrated . They drive here from Connecticut I guess . Good kid nice family needs to move on.

Could just be me but it seems like his play changed a lot from QU to here. I know the jump in conference effects that. Still, he was a driver there and in the past two years, you never saw him drive. Seems like the improvement factor has not been there. I hope the best for him. I would be surprised to see him play much this year.
 

SleepingGiantIsAwake

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Writing is 9n the wall for Kiss. I've seen this far too many times. They have no use for him.

IMO Caleb should transfer to. He's totally being done wrong. Best shooter best free throw shooter no plays are ran for him. Not because he's not playing well but their interest is clear. Geo, who has clearly been inconsistent. Ron/Paul hometown cooking. Very evident when Caleb's in the game he plays well. Only playing 20 minutes. Sounds extremely political and fishy. From what I heard these were the same reasons Eugene left. Plus other reasons. IMO Caleb should transfer out! Go where he's totally appropriated for his services.
LOL put the pipe down.

McConnell is STARTING! And everyone’s minutes, Harper and Geo’s included, are down. Love Caleb. He’s had some foul trouble including getting T’d up. Pike will have the horses out there when needed, I’m sure McConnell will be be a key player.
 
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Writing is 9n the wall for Kiss. I've seen this far too many times. They have no use for him.

IMO Caleb should transfer to. He's totally being done wrong. Best shooter best free throw shooter no plays are ran for him. Not because he's not playing well but their interest is clear. Geo, who has clearly been inconsistent. Ron/Paul hometown cooking. Very evident when Caleb's in the game he plays well. Only playing 20 minutes. Sounds extremely political and fishy. From what I heard these were the same reasons Eugene left. Plus other reasons. IMO Caleb should transfer out! Go where he's totally appropriated for his services.

Troll
 

Knights 1212

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McConnell is not going to transfer. We have 7 guys playing 20 minutes or more and he is among those seven. Mulcahy is 8th in minutes and could move ahead of Mathis or Young as the season goes on. Carter and Doucoure are our 9th and 10th men. Kiss could get into the rotation if anyone should get sick or injured. All of the guys seem to love being part of our team.
 

Scangg

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Kiss just isn't good enough. Lots of talent and depth in the perimeter players rotation. Caleb transferring is absurd. No need to discuss
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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The big question is NOT whether he should play or not.....it is why did he not play at all in a blow out game.

1. Did Pike think he is above playing in a blowout game
2. Did Kiss not want to be in a blow out game
3. Is Kiss entering portal shortly
4. Is Kiss injured
5. Is Kiss being disciplined

Has to be 1 of these 5
 

bowlgoal

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Pete was not happy in canada; I'll tell you that. But, this isn't little league and Pikiell plays to win.
 

S.W.A.I.N

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The big question is NOT whether he should play or not.....it is why did he not play at all in a blow out game.

1. Did Pike think he is above playing in a blowout game
2. Did Kiss not want to be in a blow out game
3. Is Kiss entering portal shortly
4. Is Kiss injured
5. Is Kiss being disciplined

Has to be 1 of these 5
No, it definitely doesn't have to be one of those 5. I've said it before, last year with Issa, Pike all but said he wasn't practicing well, not everyone plays, and minutes go to the best guys. He is not injured (full participant at practice), he is not being disciplined, it wasn't beneath starters to play in a blow out game, and he has had a great attitude supporting his teammates, so don't think he would refuse to play. And he isn't entering the portal until he graduates. There simply aren't enough minutes - you yourself were touting the depth of the team - that means less minutes for fringe players. Its because we are talented, not because of something scandalous.
 

S.W.A.I.N

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Pete was not happy in canada; I'll tell you that. But, this isn't little league and Pikiell plays to win.
He shouldn't be happy, otherwise he would be accepting his current role. We have depth. He needs to step up or he won't play. Its not an insult, as you stated Pike isn't running a little league team - the best play period, and a few garbage minutes isn't going to tell him anything about Pete he doesn't already know after 3 years.
 

bowlgoal

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He shouldn’t have been happy in Canada. He was terrible in that game. Hopefully, he was pissed at himself.
Well it was prior to the Bonnie game but it really doesn't matter. At that time he was just surprised that he didn't play in the opener or first few games. He did play alot in Spain. We've all been on teams growing up and this happens to be a team with a lot of talent. I'm not at practice so I have no idea how he's performing but he has to be ready. **** happens during the season and when he does get his opportunity he needs to produce. I'm glad he's cheering on his team mates and i'm sure he might leave the program next year if he doesn't get playing time. And if that's what he wants to do, it's also fine. You play the best players who are producing and it's hard to pick a player who would sit out over Pete. But I do think there were some opportunities where we were up by X number of points and you would think at that time it would be good to get him in and keep him fresh. Not sure if there are other reasons we don't know about?
 

Greene Rice FIG

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No, it definitely doesn't have to be one of those 5. I've said it before, last year with Issa, Pike all but said he wasn't practicing well, not everyone plays, and minutes go to the best guys. He is not injured (full participant at practice), he is not being disciplined, it wasn't beneath starters to play in a blow out game, and he has had a great attitude supporting his teammates, so don't think he would refuse to play. And he isn't entering the portal until he graduates. There simply aren't enough minutes - you yourself were touting the depth of the team - that means less minutes for fringe players. Its because we are talented, not because of something scandalous.

Based on your post it is #1.

When you have a blow out win and everyone on the roster played but him.

You had Young Downes Brooks Shaq Nathan
 

bowlgoal

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Based on your post it is #1.

When you have a blow out win and everyone on the roster played but him.
I'm not even talking about when Joey was put in the game. There were definitely other moments where he could have played. Maybe he's not playing the kind of defense that Pikiell expects in practice and he's sending a message for Pete to either work harder on defense and rebounding or not play. Our team defense is as aggressive as I've seen it in a long time. Montez is on the court for that reason and he's a contributor. Just guessing but our defense now turns to offense and it's fast paced.
 

S.W.A.I.N

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Based on your post it is #1.

When you have a blow out win and everyone on the roster played but him.

You had Young Downes Brooks Shaq Nathan
What do you think Pike could possibly learn about Pete in 2 minutes of garbage time that he doesn't know from 3 years of practice?
 

Greene Rice FIG

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What do you think Pike could possibly learn about Pete in 2 minutes of garbage time that he doesn't know from 3 years of practice?
Garbage time is when you empty bench and play people who haven’t been in the game.

Again it is 1 of those 5.
 

S.W.A.I.N

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Garbage time is when you empty bench and play people who haven’t been in the game.

Again it is 1 of those 5.
Well, you didn't answer my question, but again, its number 6 - he has been outplayed in practice, hasn't looked good when given minutes, and has been surpassed on the depth chart.
 
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AshCatchEm

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Writing is 9n the wall for Kiss. I've seen this far too many times. They have no use for him.

IMO Caleb should transfer to. He's totally being done wrong. Best shooter best free throw shooter no plays are ran for him. Not because he's not playing well but their interest is clear. Geo, who has clearly been inconsistent. Ron/Paul hometown cooking. Very evident when Caleb's in the game he plays well. Only playing 20 minutes. Sounds extremely political and fishy. From what I heard these were the same reasons Eugene left. Plus other reasons. IMO Caleb should transfer out! Go where he's totally appropriated for his services.
I feel bad knowing I'm smarter than people than this and nothing I can ever do would breath intellect into their heads
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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Well, you didn't answer my question, but again, its number 6 - he has been outplayed in practice, hasn't looked good when given minutes, and has been surpassed on the depth chart.

That is a given, ZERO argument. What is the explanation for Downes Brooks and Nathan playing and Kiss not?

Not to be a jerk, but you do know when the game is a blow out coaches empty the bench and that gives the opportunity for those who haven't played a chance to play.
 

RedChucken123

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Could just be me but it seems like his play changed a lot from QU to here. I know the jump in conference effects that. Still, he was a driver there and in the past two years, you never saw him drive. Seems like the improvement factor has not been there. I hope the best for him. I would be surprised to see him play much this year.

I've never seen him play at QU, but the few times he's shot mid-range or driven, he's looked decent. I don't know why we have him defaulted to shooting threes. I think he's athletic enough (from what I've seen) to put the ball on the floor in short bursts and take a shot.
 

S.W.A.I.N

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That is a given, ZERO argument. What is the explanation for Downes Brooks and Nathan playing and Kiss not?

Not to be a jerk, but you do know when the game is a blow out coaches empty the bench and that gives the opportunity for those who haven't played a chance to play.
I had no idea! I just watched my first basketball last week!

Somebody has to finish out the game when its already been decided, so you put out the guys that would never play in meaningful minutes - Kiss has before and may still be able to work his way into the rotation, and you already had 3 . Either way, for the NJIT, Pike needed to keep Young in so we could bring the ball up. He didn't feel the need A) from a standpoint of needing to evaluate or B) needing him for a specific function on the court.
But he isn't hurt, isn't a bad teammate, and its illogical that Pike would think its beneath him, but not Young, Shaq, Duke, etc.
 
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higgins3

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Did anyone think with our guard rotation all would stay? I certainly did not.
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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I had no idea! I just watched my first basketball last week!

Somebody has to finish out the game when its already been decided, so you put out the guys that would never play in meaningful minutes - Kiss has before and may still be able to work his way into the rotation, and you already had 3 . Either way, for the NJIT, Pike needed to keep Young in so we could bring the ball up. He didn't feel the need A) from a standpoint of needing to evaluate or B) needing him for a specific function on the court.
Downes is a guard. 30+% he never plays another minute and transfers after 1st semester
 

Local Shill

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It was a roll of the dice for him to transfer up. This roster looks completely different than it did when he got here. Thankfully.

How quickly we forget that the likes of Matt Bullock and Souf Mensah were actually awarded scholarships not that long ago.
 
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S.W.A.I.N

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Downes is a guard. 30+% he never plays another minute and transfers after 1st semester
Actually I think its closer to 37.937%...I can pull made up stats from my butt too! And I agree with you he is done...pretty much validates exactly what I was saying. There aren't minutes for him, its not that anything negative occurred, he just isn't going to get run so why bother with garbage time?
 

DJK8

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I know this is an old thread, but what’s the deal? It seems like he’s not even on the team
 
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