Per SL: Brian Wright candidacy "gaining steam"

RUsojo

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Toledo scored 53 points against BYU this year. BYU's defense was ranked 15th in the country allowing 19.4 points per game. They also scored 35 points against Western Michigan which was ranked 16th in the country allowing 19.5 points a game.

That was an awesome game. And a sick sweat!
 

rucoe89

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What was level of his talent at MAC vs. what we have currently and what we face week in and week out? Kill at least has experience in dealing with non-upper tier talent and making it competitive. Non-P5 folks often are successful because their talent level is better than their peers. Not saying an non-P5 will not be successful here (or anywhere for that matter), but rather, there is some basis to be concerned about the risks that come with it.
 
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Toledo had a very good year offensively but the MAC was weak this year and it's a single year so never like to read too much into it without a longer track record. Obviously better than being lousy though.

I was taking a look at FAU's and Toledo's offensive rankings prior to Wrights joining as OC.

FAU switched from prostyle to spread.

FAU
year total offense scoring offense

2009 15 60
2010 107 113
2011 120 119
Wright joined as OC switched to spread
2012 100 107
2013 84 79
2014 104 95
2015 84 104

Toledo
2009 9 8
2012 32 44
2013 40 40
2014 15 18
2015 30 31
Wright joined as OC
2016 4 18

So I see some marginal improvement at FAU but not a ton after 4 years, I would've hoped for better given the amount of time. Some marginal improvement in the one year at Toledo as well but hard to judge the consistency based on 1 year. I'd be okay with him but there are other names I like better.
 
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Ha, ha, ha. Can we dig up the threads here on Captain Kirk when he was Rutgers' OC? Maybe he's a genius now.
Funny thing, On The Banks said yesterday Brian Wright was very unlikely because Ash's buddy, Charlie Partidge, fired him at FAU.
We'll see.
I was thinking the same when I saw his name come up. If one of his buddies/mentors fired him would Ash be open to hiring him?
 

RUsojo

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Toledo had a very good year offensively but the MAC was weak this year and it's a single year so never like to read too much into it without a longer track record. Obviously better than being lousy though.

I was taking a look at FAU's and Toledo's offensive rankings prior to Wrights joining as OC.

FAU switched from prostyle to spread.

FAU
year total offense scoring offense

2009 15 60
2010 107 113
2011 120 119
Wright joined as OC switched to spread
2012 100 107
2013 84 79
2014 104 95
2015 84 104

Toledo
2009 9 8
2012 32 44
2013 40 40
2014 15 18
2015 30 31
Wright joined as OC
2016 4 18

So I see some marginal improvement at FAU but not a ton after 4 years, I would've hoped for better given the amount of time. Some marginal improvement in the one year at Toledo as well but hard to judge the consistency based on 1 year. I'd be okay with him but there are other names I like better.

The MAC was weak? Says who? Man people here don't seem to watch the MACtion.
 

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Oh so they went from pro style to spread and back to pro style you're saying? Because they switched to spread when Wright came in and then he got fired because they wanted to switch back.

He was hired by Carl Pelini and was retained when Partridge came on board. Partridge wanted to go to a pro style.
 
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The MAC was weak? Says who? Man people here don't seem to watch the MACtion.
What teams were good then besides WMU? It's part of the reason I think Fleck won this year, over the last handful of years the good coaches of the conference have left to other destinations. I can't say any other school besides WMU was all that good this year. Now admittedly I don't watch a ton of MACtion but I don't think they have been as good as year's past. I'm not even sure outside of WMU how they rank in some of the power rankings you find around.
 

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Hope Todd Fitch gets a shot too. He overlapped with Ash at Iowa State and is doing a bang up job at La. Tech.
 
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That was why. It had nothing to do with his performance. his run with Toledo proved that.
His run is one year at Toledo, I wouldn't call that a run. It's 1 year and they generally have put out solid offenses if you look at the rankings I posted. Need more info. He was at FAU for 4 and there was some marginal improvement but that's about it.
 

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this may be complicated because I still think Partridge winds up at RU possibly.Kill would add more experience from B10 and help Ash in many other ways Wright could not ..one thing this staff lacks is experience. Many assts last years in first time head guy roles on both sides of ball. .I would like to see Kill in a Fridge type roll.
 

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Toledo had a very good year offensively but the MAC was weak this year and it's a single year so never like to read too much into it without a longer track record. Obviously better than being lousy though.

I was taking a look at FAU's and Toledo's offensive rankings prior to Wrights joining as OC.

FAU switched from prostyle to spread.

FAU
year total offense scoring offense

2009 15 60
2010 107 113
2011 120 119
Wright joined as OC switched to spread
2012 100 107
2013 84 79
2014 104 95
2015 84 104

Toledo
2009 9 8
2012 32 44
2013 40 40
2014 15 18
2015 30 31
Wright joined as OC
2016 4 18

So I see some marginal improvement at FAU but not a ton after 4 years, I would've hoped for better given the amount of time. Some marginal improvement in the one year at Toledo as well but hard to judge the consistency based on 1 year. I'd be okay with him but there are other names I like better.
FAU's starting QB got hurt and/or was hobbled in 2015, hurting their production.
Also, may help to look at what happened after he left FAU (from NCAA website)

Total/Scoring offense
2015 81 105
2016 72 82

Keep in mind, just like looking at a "#20" vs. a "#30" ranking of a recruiting class, the numbers may be statistically meaningless or insignificant.
Looking at 2015 vs. 2016
2015 378 ypg/22.5 ppg.
2016 398.3 ypg/26.4 ppg.

Not a huge difference. Plus, FAU went 3-9 before and after Wright left. Is he the Wright guy for RU? Will he get his hair cut at the Wright Cut?
 
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Ash statement to APP on Monday:
“I don’t have a set date, a set timetable” for finding a new offensive coordinator, Ash said, but he indicated he would like to make a hire by the end of this month.

“I have a list of people” under consideration, he said, adding that “some of them are in bowl games.” That factor could lengthen the search process.
Toledo bowl game?? this Saturday..
 
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FAU's starting QB got hurt and/or was hobbled in 2015, hurting their production.
Also, may help to look at what happened after he left FAU (from NCAA website)

Total/Scoring offense
2015 81 105
2016 72 82

Keep in mind, just like looking at a "#20" vs. a "#30" ranking of a recruiting class, the numbers may be statistically meaningless or insignificant.
Looking at 2015 vs. 2016
2015 378 ypg/22.5 ppg.
2016 398.3 ypg/26.4 ppg.

Not a huge difference. Plus, FAU went 3-9 before and after Wright left. Is he the Wright guy for RU? Will he get his hair cut at the Wright Cut?
I'm okay with him just others I'd prefer. Maybe a Lubick although he's light on experience as OC. The fired Ole Miss OC Werner. I'm kind of interested in Matt Limegrover too the PSU OL coach who had been OC at Minnesota/NIU/SIU with Kill. Haven't really looked into his background beyond that though. He could help with our OL problems too.
 

NBKnight

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I'm okay with him just others I'd prefer. Maybe a Lubick although he's light on experience as OC. The fired Ole Miss OC Werner. I'm kind of interested in Matt Limegrover too the PSU OL coach who had been OC at Minnesota/NIU/SIU with Kill. Haven't really looked into his background beyond that though. He could help with our OL problems too.

One of the things to consider is that unless there are additional changes to the offensive staff, the OC would need to be the QB coach.
 

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this is the Scum ledger throwing a poor choice out to make news & get hits from informed fans who see this as a fall back choice
we all know Kevin Wilson is now a possibility so why name a poor Mac coach who was fired from FAU
 

RUsojo

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this is the Scum ledger throwing a poor choice out to make news & get hits from informed fans who see this as a fall back choice
we all know Kevin Wilson is now a possibility so why name a poor Mac coach who was fired from FAU

I could not logically describe the hiring of Wright as a poor choice. I'm not sure that you're clued in. Could there be better candidates? Yes. But that doesn't mean Rutgers could attract them at this time in the rebuild.
 

NBKnight

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this is the Scum ledger throwing a poor choice out to make news & get hits from informed fans who see this as a fall back choice
we all know Kevin Wilson is now a possibility so why name a poor Mac coach who was fired from FAU

Other sources besides Stat Ledger have highlighted Wright.
 
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One of the things to consider is that unless there are additional changes to the offensive staff, the OC would need to be the QB coach.
Yea that is usually the case in most OC setups.

I just read an article on espn about him seems he likes being OL coach at PSU without the added responsibility of being OC so if he's not enthusiastic about it I'd have to pass on the guy.
 

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this is the Scum ledger throwing a poor choice out to make news & get hits from informed fans who see this as a fall back choice
we all know Kevin Wilson is now a possibility so why name a poor Mac coach who was fired from FAU

Okay...
 

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this is the Scum ledger throwing a poor choice out to make news & get hits from informed fans who see this as a fall back choice
we all know Kevin Wilson is now a possibility so why name a poor Mac coach who was fired from FAU

Wilson is a possibility? I never heard we all knew that. I heard his issues at Indiana made him a non starter.

This 'poor' MAC coach put up 35+ on two of the Top 20 rated defenses in the FBS.
 
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ScarletDave

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I'm done caring about where someone comes from .. all I care about is they had SUCCESS and EXPERIENCE. Look at it this way - basically our entire staff was from Ohio State at some point and our program was modeled after theirs that won a national championship and undefeated in B1G play, and we went 0-9 in the Big Ten. Versus basketball, which had a team about even (or worse) than the quality of the football team last year, and they are 10-1 with a head coach from Stony Brook. Why? He was a HC, aka EXPERIENCE. I don't think there is a single staff member for FB that didn't move up the ladder as they moved over here, so to me that is 0 experience. That's how you continue to get blown out by increasing margins with no progress in an entire year.
 
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Wilson is a possibility? I never heard we all knew that. I heard his issues at Indiana made him a non starter.

This 'poor' MAC coach put up 35+ on two of the Top 20 rated defenses in the FBS.

Exactly. Some of these guys don't get it. They don't understand exactly how many MAC coaches have been immediately successful, as CO's or HC's, moving up to P5 schools. They think the ONLY reason they were successful was because they were coaching in the MAC. Silly.
 
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