Mike its interesting that fitty and a few others curse and call some of us name after name and you don't say a peep. I say something about a coach and you feel the need to call me stupid. As BR said, you are directing your comments to the wrong people.
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ha.........and what exactly would we be banned for Mike? Criticizing a coach or player? Let me remind you that I'm not the one breaking the rules here. Your buddies do it on a daily basis.
I'm telling you if you are engaged with a poster in and on going endless argument on a personal level. It's possible every poster involved including my self if I was involved will be gone. I'm not saying you and Yankees are totally to blame at all. I'm not blind, I'm saying that you two are the only ones that can fix the problem. That's all I'm saying.
Well actually fitty and a few others could refrain from all the crap they do on a daily basis. Why not ask them to change? Honestly, I've put a few that I have problems with on ignore and its been fantastic. Maybe these guys should consider doing the same
Now who's on the deep end. I did not make the accusation of you, only those you seem so compelled to defend. And if you think the one or two I'm specifically referencing have great understanding, then you don't. It not really hard to tell.
I don't believe I ever used profanity when describing your incompetence, though you deserve it more than anybody I'm aware of. But you surely can't complain about name calling, given how much of it you've done in the last two weeks. And you criticize terrific members of our football program and expect it to be left to stand.
It won't be and shouldn't be.
If you don't think I have your sadly mistaking. Because I have several times. I'm going to the source of the problem here as an outsider because I choose not to engage. I'm not asking you to change your opinion, I'm just asking you to fix the problem with just not engaging the hot heads. And with time the adults will prevail.
Yankees, he is talking about Sanchez comments. Tic Toc quoted you several times and you never responded. Why beat a dead horse even when you where quoted you never answered or responed. Tic Toc complied with your request but you ignore it. If you like I can copy and paste it here and you can respond to it. What was quoted is what you have posted and nothing more.
And no mike you never get on to your buddies as you say. You are still a mod right? If so why didn't you say anything to fitty when he went after a new poster just yesterday? He breaks several board rules. If you are a mod and only protect your buddies I'll just take it to josh. Not for trash talking and disagreeing but I'm not going to sit here and be ridiculed and cussed at
I haven't took up for anyone, yes I have talked to several on the phone and would have you guys. But guess what. Don't have the ability to do so with you two. So is it important to you that I do this in public? I have stated in this exact thread several times I don't think you are the only one to blame. But you are the center of most of the problem and have been. If you don't want to give even an inch, so be it. Go to Josh M. If you feel you must. It's almost like you don't like to lose. Be the adult, and stop going and telling mom and dad. Wouldn't it be much easier to just not engage? If I'm fighting a losing battle with you please say so, and I'm done here with trying to reason with you. If I'm not just let me know..... And just don't engage anyone that has confronted you now or in the past. Show everyone one you are the adult in the conversation, by just taking the nothing to see here approach. I think it's great advice.
Mike this is your opportunity to call out fitty, tic, dfw, and a few others for their roles in the arguments. You say you have done this but I haven't seen it. Well, now is your chance to prove you aren't one sided.
Exactly. Mike josh appointed you as the mod. Correct me if I'm wrong but a mod is here to enforce the rules and make sure everything remains civil. Allowing your friends to break rules day after day but telling us to be the bigger man is comical. As posters, are we not allowed the same open forum? To give our opinions, thoughts, etc. Without being attacked? If not, this board will continue to diminish. What do you think that new poster is thinking at this point? Welcome or unwelcome? All I ask is for fairness, heck that's all I've ever asked for here. You think several posters can say and do what they want and I'm expected to take it. Sorry it won't happen. They give respect and I'll do the same. They remain civil and I'll be civil. If they can't, put me in ignore. If they hate me so much this shouldn't be an issue
"Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish." Euripides.
Your efforts, ftworth's, Plaino's, and a few others, while obviously wasted, are noble. For the record, I offered to pay for a subscription to barkingyank and WNAS if they'd stay there. The offer still stands. Might be willing to make it a 3 year subscription. I figure I'd end up making a tidy profit with the money I'd get from many other posters here who have grown tired of the "act".
You're wasting keystrokes Mike. I know it. You know it. Everyone minus 3 or 4 posters know it.
Yankee proved (again) where he stands on honest conversation with his refusal to address his own quotes pulled up by Tic Toc. His excuse, he's got Tic on ignore. It was a matter of convenience (dishonest debate tactics) for him to ignore the simple task of selecting "view ignored content" allowing him to waltz away from black and white evidence and being forced have his contradictory responses crammed up his ***.
It's not even the typical "hand waving" technique used frequently by debators who've been bested. There isn't a term Im aware of to describe such blatant incredulity and outright cowardice.
It reminds me of an instance where I was present in an interview between a woman accused of shoplifting at multiple retail stores and a local city detective. The detective showed her numerous photos from multiple security cameras that were clearly of her and her significant other in progress of the crime. With every photo her reply was the same, "That's not me.".
Yankee proved (again) where he stands on honest conversation with his refusal to address his own quotes pulled up by Tic Toc. His excuse, he's got Tic on ignore. It was a matter of convenience (dishonest debate tactics) for him to ignore the simple task of selecting "view ignored content" allowing him to waltz away from black and white evidence and being forced have his contradictory responses crammed up his ***.
It's not even the typical "hand waving" technique used frequently by debators who've been bested. There isn't a term Im aware of to describe such blatant incredulity and outright cowardice.
It reminds me of an instance where I was present in an interview between a woman accused of shoplifting at multiple retail stores and a local city detective. The detective showed her numerous photos from multiple security cameras that were clearly of her and her significant other in progress of the crime. With every photo her reply was the same, "That's not me.".
Well there it is. All this hero talk from others that posters are fighting the good fight, going after them about battling their stupid and ignorant opinions is really just a smoke screen. They aren't hated for their opinions, they are simply hated because they truly do hate them over something that happened a couple of years ago. And if that's the case, even more so it's not the fault of Yankee and BW that a handful of posters simply can't move on and want to hang onto that hatred.
And sorry but the 2nd part I highlighted really ignores the fact that this can also be fixed by the people on the other side who constantly go after and troll these 2 guys. What's really telling in this whole ordeal, is it doesn't take a genius to watch and see who starts casting the first round of insults and hatred when threads get derailed. So that alone is proof that people other than Yankee and BW are the ones who need to change their behavior.
There really are 4 options right now I can think of for those posters who despise Yankee and BW,
1 - grow up, get over it, and move the hell on
2 - put Yankee and BW on ignore...and move the hell on
3 - leave and go to another message board....which is in effect...moving the hell on
4 - keep going down this path and get banned, possibly everyone banned. And of course when banned....you are in a sense....moving the hell on...
To be honest, I tend to believe many, other than Yankee and BW, would gladly take the #4 route. The reason is, they would prolly accept a ban if only to enjoy taking Yankee and BW down with them.
Yankee, please don't run away and hide and leave this message board.
1. Issue an apology to Plaino.
2. Take SoonerMike's advice to heart.
3. Stop crying to Josh and everything will be fine.
Here a few of the many quotes. But considering how critical you are of the OU players and coaches, you probably think that none of this is 'over the top'. Be sure to see DFW's comment at the bottom.
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I used to think your posting problems centered around condescension and being purposefully
obtuse. But, I can now see your problems run much deeper. You need to get back on track with the program.
Boomer Sooner
Tic-Toc, what do you expect?? It's called judging/grading the staff and players after wins and losses. After wins, there usually isn't much to nitpick and criticize. But after losses, it's usually glaring and fans get on here and vent. If that dynamic is too much for you, then maybe internet message boards that cover sports really isn't your thing.
I see the reason why I posted all those quotes went w-a-a-a-a-a-a-y over your head. But I also see something useful in your reply. I'm glad that you agree that Plaino isn't the liar that Yankee says he is. Now, it's your turn to confront Yankee with it. Thanks.
Most on this board have shown the ability to change for the better at one time or another. You and Yankees have not. You two remain a constant in the problem. If you change for the better, I bet you'll see the same in others.
As I predicted (and it was not too difficult), the venom is increasing daily. Open your eyes.
In your mind, you can convince and deceive yourselves into believing that you are winning the personal battle. But, everyone else sees you are losing the war and badly.
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Who has changed for the better fort? Tulsan? Nope. Plaino? Nope. K2c? Nope. I can go on and on so save me the " most have changed for the better" crap. I don't need you to protect me nor do I need u to agree with everything I post. As far as I know, I've never been disrespectful to you as a poster and we have never had any issues. The funny part most of these guys have no real reason not to like barking, myself, Billy and I guess wnas. All they know is I don't take their stance on everything ou and that makes me a poopoo head. Fortworth mike all but stated that THEY are the issue and barking and I just need to ignore their name calling and cussing rants. Here is an idea, how about meet in the middle? How about being able to agree to disagree but do it respectively? If they will, I will.
This is great advice I only hope it can be taken and used for the better of the board.
You have it all wrong Yankees. My goal is not to protect you, it's to protect the integrity and the quality of this board. You're an adult along with the others and presumably are capable of making adult decisions.
If you will be smart and reasonable and protect yourself, the board will then be protected. But, with your "US" vs. "THEM" mentality, nothing healthy will ensue.
You came back on board here with a great deal of negative baggage. To be respected, YOU bear the greater responsibility in bringing about change for the better. Call it "crap" all you want but you - fairly or not in your eyes - remain the catalyst to effective change.
How can you expect others to change when you are not willing to make the effort yourself? Cue the quote about change and insanity. Your mind appears to be closed shut. With that attitude, what result do you expect? All this negativity breeds even greater negativity and diminishes the intent of this outstanding forum.
Its never been your opinion that I find fault with. It's your need for wanting the final word in an already losing cause that culminates in abuse. No, it is not one-sided and I've said as much before. It's the ensuing chaos and mayhem that's hurting this board.
You will not receive the respectability of which you seek because you are not willing to give it. Respect requires humility and compassion. You have yet to show either. Your prolonging of an argument beyond reason has always been part of your downfall. It's not really the others you like to assert. If you would just take the high road and some personal responsibility for your actions, you would see all the change you want.
Your wanting others to change before you do is folly at its best.
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See, now you're putting conditions on it. So it won't happen. It begins with you.
Boomer Sooner
I'm really sorry you feel this way. Obviously you seem to be willing to accept all that you are destined to receive. My point is the board doesn't deserve it.
Boomer Sooner
Come on guys have some willpower. I've read every post and I have no trouble reading and ignoring posters. I enjoy foolish behavior as long as long as I don't participate. They will never change you might as well be talking to Scholz. A waste of your time and energy give it up. You can't out ego these guys. Honestly a person debating
With a fool is a fool. Let them have a threesome.
Whatever you do I'll be reading everyone's post. Mike I thought you met Yankee at one of those tailgates for a game?
With a fool is a fool. Let them have a threesome.
Whatever you do I'll be reading everyone's post. Mike I thought you met Yankee at one of those tailgates for a game?
If one elects to respond, I've found that a heavy dose of sarcasm and sense of humor is the "medicine" for these boys. If they "get it", they know their "opinion" is not being taken seriously or of any redeeming value. If they don't, they look silly responding. It's quite entertaining.
Outstanding post MM! Yours is why I know positive change can be achieved here from ALL.
Boomer Sooner
I agree ST. I have attempted a variety of methods myself to get a point across. But, my intent is often far more positive than the actual result attained.If one elects to respond, I've found that a heavy dose of sarcasm and sense of humor is the "medicine" for these boys. If they "get it", they know their "opinion" is not being taken seriously or of any redeeming value. If they don't, they look silly responding. It's quite entertaining.
Boomer Sooner
It's all about managing expectations.
Take solace in the fact that others notice your noble attempts and that the subsequent rejections only highlight the source of the problem even further. Sometimes ya gotta get creative to have "fun".