Our QB is killing us
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No our O line is killing us. We had 3 O linemen who couldn't hold their own against OSU's talent. Not even close. Bad snaps. Guys getting pushed back in to the QB. WRs couldn't get open. OSU is really good. We're not.
I know the O-line sucks and all but he can it throw the ball with any touch or finesse. Reminds me of the ducks that Lord and all the other non-throwing husker QB’s threw up there years back. No threat at all with his arm. Can any of the other QB’s throw a better ball? Vedral? It sure might loosen things up for the rest of the Offense? If not - keep him in there but all the hype about AM being the second coming of a Heisman QB was way the F off bros!
Martinez was awful tonight for sure but so was everyone else. It starts with the continued horrible snaps. Then you drop back to pass and the right tackle gets destroyed. Then on the rare occasion he gets time, he was way off on his throws. It was miserable all the way around.
The play starts with Martinez having 0 clue where tf the ball will be snapped, as soon as that happens he has to take his eyes off the defense which automatically puts him at a disadvantage, by time he gets the ball and starts his progressions the pocket is gone and he now has to pull his eyes back down again to improvise and avoid the rush.
No QB would be successful in this environment.
No QB would be successful in this environment.
Our OL still sucks but Martinez just doesn't seem right in year 2. I expected more of a confident, gunslinger type of player this year. He's just really pressing. Frustrating loss.
Nebraska rarely gets help from the defense, and yes, I know that the turnovers don't help. But when the turnovers happen, it seems the opposition just goes right down the field and scores, just like last week against Illinois.
If AM is as rough next week in the first half, then I see no reason why a change at qb (maybe for a series or two) would be such a bad thing.
Still, I think Nebraska should run a lot more and set up some wide open play action, they can run the ball on the Wildcats. But, the turnover and penalty bug will be around to haunt them again.
I wasn’t able to watch the game but the score and stats tell as much as I need to know. There is one guy most responsible for that kind of blowout and his name is not Martinez (or Riley). I think it is really crappy to see these threads every week ripping Martinez. This is a bad team at its core and the core of any team are the offensive and defensive lines.
Frost obviously believes in all of his coaches even though most of their resumes apart from that single special UCF season aren’t much to write about. Changes are needed and starting qb is hardly the top priority for change.
Frost obviously believes in all of his coaches even though most of their resumes apart from that single special UCF season aren’t much to write about. Changes are needed and starting qb is hardly the top priority for change.
Is it fair to start questioning Verduzco? He has a reputation for using unconventional coaching methods. Martinez was much better before Verduzco had much time with him.
If he's such a genius QB whisperer, why was he at FCS programs like UNI and Missouri State his whole career?
If he's such a genius QB whisperer, why was he at FCS programs like UNI and Missouri State his whole career?
The under center stuff seems to work pretty good. I wonder if we go with that more to avoid these crazy snaps.
You're being too harsh.
He looked above average against the 3rd string guys tOSU trotted out there in the third and fourth quarters.
I live in Springfield and am a Missouri State grad, Verduzco was an absolute disaster in his one year here as an OC, with that said, I don’t think he’s the issue at all.
You pull Jurgens and Martinez is still gonna suck it up. He overthrows screen passes and his 3rd pick there was no pressure at all.
Doesn’t set his feet and step into throws, he can’t get his eyes down the field which causes happy feet. Can’t get his eyes down field when we can’t get a snap or block anyone.
Honest question, what does that mean? Yelling at people? Throwing a fit that his center can’t get the snap right? He’s still a young player, he stepped up postgame and admitted he had a bad game and said he’d go back to work. What behavior would exhibit this leadership?
It means not throwing the game away and playing scared.
Hes the leader the team follows his lead.
It means not worrying about getting hurt and play football.
Inspire your team ..instill confidence he.doesn't do that.
I actually think the RB group did decently given everything going on. Our WR group needs someone to step up badly, O-Line needs to get the basics right. I don’t get a lot of the play calls such as jet sweep in short yardage or QB draws in 3rd and long against zone either, but play calling when you can’t have confidence in your OL to execute is always going to be iffy.
Receivers are open Martinez only looks at 1 receiver tops.
Our QB is killing our offense
He’s put the team on his back in several games, he kept fighting and lowering his shoulder down 40. It was obvious within the first 3-4 snaps that he was going to have to run for his life between snaps and the inability for the OL to block NFL caliber DL.
Young man had a bad game, some self inflicted wounds and an unlucky bounce.
What did everyone think would happen if AMart didn’t play like a Heisman finalist candidate every game?
I've covered this, hard to run through progressions when you can’t get a reliable snap or trust your OL to give you time.
Then perhaps we should have him go under center the whole game, if we can't trust our center to snap in shotgun formation. Or try a different center and move Jurgens to guard.
Jurgens isn’t physically capable of playing guard right now, not strong enough. I’d guess we will see more under center, but that doesn’t change the fact that we can’t sustain or drive blocks.
Probably easier to say what isn't killing us. Special teams didn't kill us too bad!
I hope I am wrong on this one, but it looks like Martinez has developed a case of the yips. First pic he just didn't lead his guy nearly enough. Next one, he looked like was really trying hard to put touch on a pass where his feet were nowhere near set. If he throws a decent pass, Wandale walks in with a TD. He later throws some baffling pass nowhere near Williams. I almost suspect he ran a wrong route. In any case, Martinez wasn't 3/10 by accident in the first half. He had one play where he made a good play rolling out the right and then skipped a six yard pass to his receiver. Like I used to say in the Jamal Lord days, he could have throw a sky hook from that range and easily completed the pass but he threw it at his shoes. He had a couple later where receivers caught the pass at their shoe tops. Another one he had Wandale in the flat and Wandale had to totally stop where he was running to catch a pass, and this caused his ability to make a play to come to a halt. Martinez is in a bad place right now. I have no idea what is happening to him.
Football is a game of field position. You don't win that battle by continually turning it over at mid-field. Blame bad luck all you want, but AM2 was responsible for 4 turnovers. He also couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. That INT that the defender was lying on their back was the result of a poorly thrown pass that was too high.
You are an absolute idiot if you think NU has a better QB to play. I'm pretty sure Frost working 100 hours a week has a little better idea of who should play and who shouldn't, if NU had a better QB Frost would play him. We have known FOREVER that Martinez wasn't as talented as Fields should be, NU had a puncher's chance AT BEST tonight and if you didn't know that before the game you might need to follow a sport that is a little easier to understand.
OSU is really, really good and Nebraska is not even close yet. The whole team played bad... NU doesn't have the talent yet and I'm a little surprised that people who post on a recruiting website with all the data and information don't know enough about CFB to realize this. It's gonna take time but hopefully they will play better as we won't see another team like tonight the rest of the season.
I'm also pretty sure that you wieners trashing Martinez never led the Huskers to a national championship, played in the NFL, coached Heisman caliber QB's at Oregon, led UCF to an undefeated season or have spent a year and half working 13 hours a day 7 days a week coaching at Nebraska. Frost knows a hell of a lot more about this team and college football than you do and that is a FACT. You guys make me want to puke when I hear someone talk about how good of fans the Huskers have. 8-4 was always going to be the pinnacle for this team, the Huskers weren't going to win any titles just because you are delusional and wanted it to happen because Nebraska was good about 20 years ago.
OSU is really, really good and Nebraska is not even close yet. The whole team played bad... NU doesn't have the talent yet and I'm a little surprised that people who post on a recruiting website with all the data and information don't know enough about CFB to realize this. It's gonna take time but hopefully they will play better as we won't see another team like tonight the rest of the season.
I'm also pretty sure that you wieners trashing Martinez never led the Huskers to a national championship, played in the NFL, coached Heisman caliber QB's at Oregon, led UCF to an undefeated season or have spent a year and half working 13 hours a day 7 days a week coaching at Nebraska. Frost knows a hell of a lot more about this team and college football than you do and that is a FACT. You guys make me want to puke when I hear someone talk about how good of fans the Huskers have. 8-4 was always going to be the pinnacle for this team, the Huskers weren't going to win any titles just because you are delusional and wanted it to happen because Nebraska was good about 20 years ago.
Tldr this stupid post
Frost didn't go after Burrow because Martinez was better in his opinion. Burrow would have made this a hell lot more respectable. Plus practice sometimes doesn't lead to the field. Adrian sucks out there and Osborne would have had him on the bench by now to let him think if he wants to be a leader or a follower.
Yea man, I can't believe AM2 wasn't in the Ds face after they couldn't come close to stopping the OSU offense.