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kaTNap

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Catsfan34 said:
How do the 2 no contests effect the Big Ten West race? If Wisconsin goes 5-1 with a win over NU and NU goes 7-1, who goes to Indy?
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I think NU would go because of higher win percentage in conference games. Head-to-head counts only if two teams tie in win percentage, if I understand correctly.
 
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kaTNap said:
I think NU would go because of higher win percentage in conference games. Head-to-head counts only if two teams tie in win percentage, if I understand correctly.
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As long as both teams play at least 6 games and each have 1 loss, head-to-head determines the division championship.
 
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Alvious said:
As long as both teams play at least 6 games and each have 1 loss, head-to-head determines the division championship.
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Source?

Per Wikipedia: "Division standings are based on each team's overall conference record, excluding teams ineligible for postseason because of sanctions. In the event that two teams are tied, the head-to-head results between those two teams determines the tiebreaker"
 
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kaTNap said:
Source?

Per Wikipedia: "Division standings are based on each team's overall conference record, excluding teams ineligible for postseason because of sanctions. In the event that two teams are tied, the head-to-head results between those two teams determines the tiebreaker"
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This was covered in another thread. It's different this year due to Covid.
 
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kaTNap

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Alvious said:
This was covered in another thread. It's different this year due to Covid.
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The "difference due to Covid" is that, if Wisky no-contests another game and the rest of the conference averages more than seven games played, Wisky is disqualified from the championship no matter what else they do, even if they finish 5-0. You have to complete no fewer than two games less than the conference average to be eligible.

There's no special exemption allowing them to count their no-contest games as if they were wins, which is effectively what you're claiming. Division standings are still based on win percentage in conference games. A 5-1 record is a win percentage of 83.3%; a 7-1 record is a win percentage of 87.5%.
 
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Mertz will be tough to beat. BJo and Newsome will have to play their best. PRamsey will also have to be at his best as well. Our d must continue to dominate. It will be like playing osu in many ways
 
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kaTNap said:
The "difference due to Covid" is that, if Wisky no-contests another game and the rest of the conference averages more than seven games played, Wisky is disqualified from the championship no matter what else they do, even if they finish 5-0. You have to complete no fewer than two games less than the conference average to be eligible.

There's no special exemption allowing them to count their no-contest games as if they were wins, which is effectively what you're claiming. Division standings are still based on win percentage in conference games. A 5-1 record is a win percentage of 83.3%; a 7-1 record is a win percentage of 87.5%.
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Alvious said:
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I stand corrected. Wow, that's off-the-wall stupid. Basically, we should arrange to get COVID and not play Wisconsin at all, then. That would have the dual effect of (a) disqualifying them; and (b) keeping us from being effectively penalized by playing a full slate of games.
 
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kaTNap said:
I stand corrected. Wow, that's off-the-wall stupid. Basically, we should arrange to get COVID and not play Wisconsin at all, then. That would have the dual effect of (a) disqualifying them; and (b) keeping us from being effectively penalized by playing a full slate of games.
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The fact they were able to make the determination and not the B1G was stupid. They really had no incentive play with their 4th string QB. This is what got UNL fans so upset.
 
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It is stupid and reeks of gamesmanship (they may have gotten by Nebraska but likely not Purdue with their fourth string QB).

But let's assume they beat us. They still need to get through Michigan (maybe with a chip on their shoulder), Iowa, and resurgent Indiana. No gimmes and harder than our remaining schedule.
 
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Alvious said:
As long as both teams play at least 6 games and each have 1 loss, head-to-head determines the division championship.
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But wouldn't it be on overall record and the 7 min team would have a better overall record. Head to Head would be the tie breaker if they had same record.
 
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mickbula said:
Mertz will be tough to beat. BJo and Newsome will have to play their best. PRamsey will also have to be at his best as well. Our d must continue to dominate. It will be like playing osu in many ways
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I like our chances! Ramsey has a very accurate arm.
 
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hdhntr1 said:
But wouldn't it be on overall record and the 7 min team would have a better overall record. Head to Head would be the tie breaker if they had same record.
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If 2 teams have the same number of losses, the tiebreaker is head-to-head, regardless of overall win percentage.
 
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It is stupid and reeks of gamesmanship (they may have gotten by Nebraska but likely not Purdue with their fourth string QB).

But let's assume they beat us. They still need to get through Michigan (maybe with a chip on their shoulder), Iowa, and resurgent Indiana. No gimmes and harder than our remaining schedule.
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There's a simple solution, and that is to beat Wiscy.
 
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iskaboo said:
This week may be the first time I have ever rooted for Harbaugh.
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I... just... can't

The only time I've ever done it was when I was listening to Rocky Top and hearing "SEC!!" chants in Tampa. Meanwhile, over in Orlando, Michigan was thrashing Florida, leading me to grit my teeth and say "Go Blue!"
 
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phatcat said:
I... just... can't

The only time I've ever done it was when I was listening to Rocky Top and hearing "SEC!!" chants in Tampa. Meanwhile, over in Orlando, Michigan was thrashing Florida, leading me to grit my teeth and say "Go Blue!"
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Are they not both blue
 
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