Yes. The last time it was attempted was during FDR's first term. Funny that it was Democratic President upset that he didn't have free reign to push his socialistic policies on the Country through the New Deal. So, he tried to add judges to change the outcome in the court system....or pack the court.
OT-Post debate polls...
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You are lost mon amie. Trump is not moderate by any stretch, but the fact that you understand him to be so underscores the divide in the country.
I'll agree with you on this much: it's damn rare to find a media outlet that covers research well (although there are exceptions: 538 is meticulous about methodology). But, in this case you've got a nice outline of the sample, the original questionnaire, and crosstabs showing the raw results. I get that people have their beef with CNN, but I guess my question is: what are the changes you actually want to see? This seems like the way to do it, IMO.
Trump is the first Republican to have a gay speaker at his convention and a gay National Security Advisor
He spends like crazy
He passed legislation that was specifically targeted for black people
He does not believe in Wars
Believes in tariffs.
All those things are left of Republicans.
I wouldn't be surprised if trump never voted for a republican in his entire life prior to running for president
Weird that there would be political discussion in an OT post about debate polls.
Is there something in that topic title that made you think it would be about football?
"Populism refers to a range of political stances that emphasize the idea of "the people" and often juxtapose this group against "the elite"."
"A Demagogue is a political leader who seeks support by appealing to the desires and prejudices of ordinary people rather than by using rational argument."
By God! That's Bernie's music!
That's another reason I voted for him. Hes not a Republican or Democrat.
I'll take that over an elite group of people who will only allow the people THEY want to run for President. Who's getting rich off screwing over taxpayers and getting our kids killed in wars for money.
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Why waste your time with this buffoon.. never going to get anywhere with his/her beliefs and must not realized that Biden won’t be running this country if elected it will be Harris and her AOC buddies..
He went Penn, his kids all went to Ivy Leagues schools, he grew up rich, stayed rich his whole life, in NYC no less. He's the definition of elite.
Trump says things that drive the left crazy and many on the right - including myself. But look at his actual record of accomplishments and in may cases it doesn't square with his dialogue. He has accomplished quite a bit in his 3 1/2 years. I would rather have someone in charge that get's things done - versus talks about it and never get's anything done -see Biden.
Biden is a politician, he talks about getting things done, but what has the guy really accomplished? He is likeable, personable, empathetic, etc. however his 47 years in politics hasn't really produced much.
Biden is a politician, he talks about getting things done, but what has the guy really accomplished? He is likeable, personable, empathetic, etc. however his 47 years in politics hasn't really produced much.
Yes. You have to be rich to run for President.
But he was not a part of the political class. Not for the past 50 years prior to 2016.
Pence dominated the debate bc he remained calm and talked about details and policies. Something the Harris did not -she spoke about the same old rhetoric and can’t give any solutions. Example -210000 deaths ( say caused by trump) but in reality that may or may not be less or more if she were in charge. If she thinks she could do better that state how she would have / which she can’t or won’t say because she doesn’t have answers just spews venom.
before anyone gets their panties in a wad - I think trump is an *** and him and Biden spewed venom during their debates - but I do think trump has better grasp on policies and overall better direction.
Fun fact: only around 60% of Americans drink alcohol and, of those, only about 40% are beer drinkers. You hear that heuristic a lot, but it's definitely one that explains how lower income men without a college degree think about politics much more so than it explains the average American.
Anyway, I'd have a beer with just about anyone and I like Kamala just fine
Very well said.. Majority of the people hare Trump no matter what he does or has accomplished, and true he a loud mouth thinks he knows and can’t stop twitting for the life of him, which is the reason I don’t like him but he has did more good for this country than Biden has or will ever do..
Sorry, did you say accomplished? You are soft in the head, aren't you. It's a pretty sad day when the Borg embraces a despicable slug simply because they like the extreme agenda he's shoved down the throat of the American public. Destroy the environment? Check! Stack the court with extremist judges? Check! Alienate our allies? Check! Nuzzle up to dictators? Check! Undermine our foremost experts in everything from economics and science to military and basic governance? Check! Spark race riots? Check! Undermine our place in the world? Double check! Allow a pandemic to devastate our economy and kill 210,000 Americans? Check and check! Good thing his personality is the only thing to worry about. Am I right, scarlet?
I'm laughing at your post.
you forgot to blame trump for the falcons' inability to field an onside kick against dallas.
Such a tool the race riots were because of Democratic majors not controlling their city’s because they are weak leaders...
The thing is though, they would not have published the results if they were pro-Pence. So the credibility is lost. The fact that they paid this company makes it even worse. Fox News does the same thing. This is why independent journalism is blowing up. People see what a mindless drone you have to be to listen to the mainstream narrative.
Its ironic that the people who want a nationwide popular vote would use the term populism as a pejorative.
I don’t even remember the last time I watched a debate. Neither side is honest and both sides will claim victory. And no one changes their opinion.
I do laugh at the whole concept that Biden and his team are radical socialists though. Nothing could be further from the truth. The DNC establishment are neoliberals that would rather have Trump win then any of their more progressive members. And you would have a hard time finding a bigger friend of Wall Street and Delaware than Biden. He has also spent decades talking about his desire to cut social programs and social security, etc. If they are talking about more social programs in their debates, then they are just pandering to the progressive flank in their party. They don’t actually mean it.
ps- by most accounts, the fly was the winner.
I do laugh at the whole concept that Biden and his team are radical socialists though. Nothing could be further from the truth. The DNC establishment are neoliberals that would rather have Trump win then any of their more progressive members. And you would have a hard time finding a bigger friend of Wall Street and Delaware than Biden. He has also spent decades talking about his desire to cut social programs and social security, etc. If they are talking about more social programs in their debates, then they are just pandering to the progressive flank in their party. They don’t actually mean it.
ps- by most accounts, the fly was the winner.
What? Just read the report and explain the bias. It's a hell of a lot more informative than the literally probable lie that the OP posted.
If you're upset because CNN pays researchers for data, it makes zero sense to turn to "independent media". Smaller outlets don't have the resources to pay for scientific research at all. Is that actually what you want?
No need for negative comments on this post...
One comment was made last night from the debate..
Pence- “ Trump and I trust the America people to make choices for themselves and their family- Harris aNd Biden want to mandate how you care for yourself”
Harris- “ The American people aren’t equipped to make decisions for themselves “.
One comment was made last night from the debate..
Pence- “ Trump and I trust the America people to make choices for themselves and their family- Harris aNd Biden want to mandate how you care for yourself”
Harris- “ The American people aren’t equipped to make decisions for themselves “.
The probability that another polling firm drew a random sample of registered voters indicating the OP's stated results is actually much lower than 5%, because it would require a 30 point deviation between samples.
So, yeah. He is probably lying in the most literal sense of the word "probable" I can imagine. But, statistically rare events do happen. I'm only asking to see the poll.
I didn't even know what you were talking about. just laughed at the phrase literally probable.
Homo Sapiens have never been paragons of virtue. You don't go from the bottom of the food chain (gerbils) to the top of the food chain (simians) by being altruists.
That doesn't mean there wasn't a time when people dressed up to go to church or a restaurant. We used to ask more of ourselves. We used to shame people who made it clear their word wasn't worth anything. But we have become a slovenly people lazy in our thoughts and actions.
We are now entering the final stage of societal collapse. We began our collapse even before the USSR imploded. So about 50 years into our death struggle.
Will we become Cuba? Venezuela? Greece? I don't know. But California has already become Mexico and the rest of the country is only about 10-15 years away from becoming California.
No need for negative comments on this post...
One comment was made last night from the debate..
Pence- “ Trump and I trust the America people to make choices for themselves and their family- Harris aNd Biden want to mandate how you care for yourself”
Harris- “ The American people aren’t equipped to make decisions for themselves “.
Just what is it about reality that you all find so important to oppose? Here is a full transcript of the entire debate. Those quotes are not in it.
Still waiting on that 70:30 Pence poll...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...tory-welcomed-by-trump-supporters/ar-BB19P29x
In the online survey, which received more than 190,000 votes, 71 percent of respondents gave Pence victory, compared to 29 percent for Harris.
- Nearly three quarters of respondents to the poll said the Republican vice president had won the debate over the Democratic Senator Kamala Harris.
In the online survey, which received more than 190,000 votes, 71 percent of respondents gave Pence victory, compared to 29 percent for Harris.
Thanks, OP. So, it turns out that we're comparing a scientific poll, on one hand, to a not at all rigorous online poll, on the other. You weren't lying, you were just posting terrible information and providing no sources.
Here's a report showing that the Drudge online poll was spammed by partisans.
Guess that's why it's important to offer some actual evidence
No more or less credible than a CNN poll. LolThanks, OP. So, it turns out that we're comparing a scientific poll, on one hand, to a not at all rigorous online poll, on the other. You weren't lying, you were just posting terrible information and providing no sources.
Here's a report showing that the Drudge online poll was spammed by partisans.
Guess that's why it's important to offer some actual evidence