OT: Ongoing Golf Thread

WhiteBus

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Other than being a long time host of the Tour Championship, it hosted the Ryder Cup back in the 90's.

You would have a much, much better idea than me but watching on TV it appears the greens are what makes it tough. So many breaks every which way.
I guess it's the lack of fans lining the holes. Only a few holes and the Clubhouse look familiar. And I never really got into the FedEx Cup. After the PGA Championship it was onto other sports.
 

RU85inFla

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Bobby Jones complained about getting tee times there so he built Peachtree on a piece of land in Atlanta not far away. Peachtree is as close to playing Augusta as you can get without doing so from a look and feel perspective. A true gem.
 

RUevolution36

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Spooky Brook is actually in Somerset County. But I do agree that you could land a plane on most of the holes. It’s basically a flat open piece of land. Miry Run had a fairway right next to an old runway strip from what I remember. And I remember a plane actually do an emergency landing on Royce Brook GC years ago.
It's also a goat track now. Really poorly maintained compared to neshanic
 
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WhiteBus

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Some off the commentators saying Dustin is a lock for the Golf HOF. As great as he has been he has only has one major. The rule, unless it's been changed, is two majors minimum to get on the yearly ballot.
 

knightfan7

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Some off the commentators saying Dustin is a lock for the Golf HOF. As great as he has been he has only has one major. The rule, unless it's been changed, is two majors minimum to get on the yearly ballot.

The criteria is 15 victories on a major tour OR 2 major victories.

"A player must have a cumulative total of 15 or more official victories on any of the original members of the International Federation of PGA Tours (PGA TOUR, European Tour, Japan Golf Tour, Sunshine Tour, Asian Tour and PGA of Australasia) OR at least two victories among the following events: The Masters, THE PLAYERS Championship, the U.S. Open, The Open Championship and the PGA Championship."


For example Fred Couples ( inducted in 2013) has 1 Masters and 14 other wins including 2 Players Championships.
 

wisr01

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The criteria is 15 victories on a major tour OR 2 major victories.

"A player must have a cumulative total of 15 or more official victories on any of the original members of the International Federation of PGA Tours (PGA TOUR, European Tour, Japan Golf Tour, Sunshine Tour, Asian Tour and PGA of Australasia) OR at least two victories among the following events: The Masters, THE PLAYERS Championship, the U.S. Open, The Open Championship and the PGA Championship."


For example Fred Couples ( inducted in 2013) has 1 Masters and 14 other wins including 2 Players Championships.
You are correct and DJ is a lock for the HOF with 23 wins, a major and now a Fedex Cup.
 

RutgHoops

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Played Philadelphia Cricket Club again on Friday. I really like that Tillinghast golf course. If you get an invite don't pass it up. Heading out West this week for business and will stay for a week. I plan to play at my club out there (Tacoma Golf and Country Club) and have an early tee time Saturday at Chambers Bay. Trying to live my best Covid golf life.
 

richthedentist

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It's also a goat track now. Really poorly maintained compared to neshanic
You are right about the plane landing on Royce Brook, I played it one day and the plane was still on the course because the NTSB had not come yet; I believe it was the 4th hole on the west course
 

chase07470

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Played Philadelphia Cricket Club again on Friday. I really like that Tillinghast golf course. If you get an invite don't pass it up. Heading out West this week for business and will stay for a week. I plan to play at my club out there (Tacoma Golf and Country Club) and have an early tee time Saturday at Chambers Bay. Trying to live my best Covid golf life.
You're killing it this year. I've had very little outside the home club. Liberty National and Winged Foot. Still have National, Friars and Maidestone at the end of the month.

Index is down but think its the new handicap system.
 
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knightfan7

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You're killing it this year. I've had very little outside the home club. Liberty National and Winged Foot. Still have National, Friars and Maidestone at the end of the month.

Index is down but think its the new handicap system.

How's Winged Foot looking? Open ready?. Rough crazy high?
 

chase07470

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How's Winged Foot looking? Open ready?. Rough crazy high?
Played it back in June so it was normal. Hearing they're shooting for another massacre at Winged Foot...plus eight range for the winner. Love that its being held in the middle of September when Westchester courses really firm up, greens get hard and incredibly fast. It's going to be a tough week for the pros and a real, traditional US Open.
 

RutgHoops

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You're killing it this year. I've had very little outside the home club. Liberty National and Winged Foot. Still have National, Friars and Maidestone at the end of the month.

Index is down but think its the new handicap system.

That is a great end of the month. Enjoy. I have not played Friars or Maidstone, but have played National Golf Links. That place is great. You'll need a good caddie the first time around. You really need to understand where to hit it. Hopefully you get to experience "the lunch" at National. A very special place,

Glad the index is down. Mine is not! I am playing really mediocre golf at some great spots.
 
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wisr01

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Just saw this:



In what can be seen as a major economic impact to the Sandhills, the United States Golf Association (USGA) will move parts of its operations to Pinehurst beginning in 2023. The announcement was made at a Village of Pinehurst Public Hearing Tuesday evening and at a special meeting of the Moore County Commissioners earlier in the day.

Moving to Pinehurst will be the Arnold Palmer Center for Golf History and the ball and equipment testing facility. A visitor center is also part of the plan. They all are presently headquartered in Liberty Corner, New Jersey, in what is known as the USGA Golf House.

Also relocating to Pinehurst will be the section dedicated to turfgrass agronomy and management. Partnering with the USGA in turfgrass research will be NC State, NC A&T State University, and Sandhills Community College. It is expected that cooperation will lead to future job opportunities and training.
 

HALL85

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Fitting to relocate to the village of Pinehurst. If you haven’t been there it really is a neat little town. Definitely not nightlife but it’s all about golf.

Making our annual trip there in October. We used to play some of the Pinehurst courses but have settled in to five courses that we really enjoy. Pine Needles, Mid-Pines, Dormey, Mid-South and Tobacco Road. Playing #2 was a bucket list course, and it is special but the other PH courses were a bit over rated to me.

Played the Rutgers course on Sunday and shot an 82. 40 on the back with and 8 on #12...that hurt.
 

Caliknight

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Fitting to relocate to the village of Pinehurst. If you haven’t been there it really is a neat little town. Definitely not nightlife but it’s all about golf.

Making our annual trip there in October. We used to play some of the Pinehurst courses but have settled in to five courses that we really enjoy. Pine Needles, Mid-Pines, Dormey, Mid-South and Tobacco Road. Playing #2 was a bucket list course, and it is special but the other PH courses were a bit over rated to me.

Played the Rutgers course on Sunday and shot an 82. 40 on the back with and 8 on #12...that hurt.
What’s your HC there and is 12 a par 5? I forget. With the new scoring system you may not be able to card an 8.
 

knightfan7

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OT in an OT thread...

Michael O'Keefe who portrayed Danny Noonan in "Caddyshack" is caddying for an Amateur qualifier in this week's US OPEN.
 

RU85inFla

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What’s your HC there and is 12 a par 5? I forget. With the new scoring system you may not be able to card an 8.
Double bogey net is the max now regardless of handicap index. You play a ton of golf, learn the rules.

12 is the number 2 handicap at Rutgers.
 
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HALL85

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What’s your HC there and is 12 a par 5? I forget. With the new scoring system you may not be able to card an 8.
12 is the par 5...didn't realize how close the creek was and hit my drive into the gully. I believe max is 2 strokes plus your handicap on the hole (an additional stroke for me) so that's an 8.
 
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Section124

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Double bogey net is the max now regardless of handicap index. You play a ton of golf, learn the rules.

12 is the number 2 handicap at Rutgers.
Not sure why you commented the way you did. He asked all the right questions. He just didn't know the Par and would need to refer to the scorecard.
 
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RU85inFla

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Not sure why you commented the way you did. He asked all the right questions. He just didn't know the Par and would need to refer to the scorecard.
First of all Hall85 stated the score he made, a 40. It is irrelevant if number 12 is a par 3, a par 4 or a par 5. You shoot a 40 your score is a 40. As far as posting, which Hall85 never mentioned, it does make a difference whether it is a par 3, par 4 or a par 5, what his personal handicap is and what the index of the hole is.

Cali talks quite often of his club and the beautiful courses he plays. I was just offering a friendly piece of advise from a long time golfer. Learn the rules or people will lose interest in playing with you. The guy played college lacrosse, I am quite sure he appreciates the role rules play in sport and competition.
 
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Knightmoves

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Double bogey net is the max now regardless of handicap index. You play a ton of golf, learn the rules.

12 is the number 2 handicap at Rutgers.

“Another significant change is to Equitable Stroke Control (ESC). Starting in 2020, net double bogey on any hole is the maximum allowed, whether it's a par 3, par 4 or par 5.Jan 6, 2020“

I wasn’t aware of that rule change either. I’m a 10 hc and was still using a 7 as a max score on any hole. Good to know the new ESC rule. This will lower handicaps for new players. Doesnt that make the max score 72 + 36 = 108?

I played in a FSGA outing at Innisbrook near Tampa last month. Very hot day and the heat cramps got to me early. After the ninth hole I bailed out and took a No Card for the one day tournament. The FSGA posted our scores directly w GHIN and carded me a 108 for my NC. Nice!
 

RU85inFla

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“Another significant change is to Equitable Stroke Control (ESC). Starting in 2020, net double bogey on any hole is the maximum allowed, whether it's a par 3, par 4 or par 5.Jan 6, 2020“

I wasn’t aware of that rule change either. I’m a 10 hc and was still using a 7 as a max score on any hole. Good to know the new ESC rule. This will lower handicaps for new players. Doesnt that make the max score 72 + 36 = 108?

I played in a FSGA outing at Innisbrook near Tampa last month. Very hot day and the heat cramps got to me early. After the ninth hole I bailed out and took a No Card for the one day tournament. The FSGA posted our scores directly w GHIN and carded me a 108 for my NC. Nice!
Other changes:

Best 8 of 20 scores vs. 10 of 20

If handicap goes 3 over your low index a bad score only has 50% of the impact from a handicap perspective.

If you differential is 7 better than your index every differential in you 20 recent scores is lowered by 1. If your differential is 10 below you lose 2.
 

Caliknight

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Double bogey net is the max now regardless of handicap index. You play a ton of golf, learn the rules.

12 is the number 2 handicap at Rutgers.

I didn't know what par the hole was jackass. Obviously that changes his potential max score.
 

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Joel Dahmen’s caddie. This was hilarious. His US Open hotel room after his Air BnB cancelled on him last minute.
 
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Section124

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First of all Hall85 stated the score he made, a 40. It is irrelevant if number 12 is a par 3, a par 4 or a par 5. You shoot a 40 your score is a 40. As far as posting, which Hall85 never mentioned, it does make a difference whether it is a par 3, par 4 or a par 5, what his personal handicap is and what the index of the hole is.

Cali talks quite often of his club and the beautiful courses he plays. I was just offering a friendly piece of advise from a long time golfer. Learn the rules or people will lose interest in playing with you. The guy played college lacrosse, I am quite sure he appreciates the role rules play in sport and competition.
Got it. You just don't like @Caliknight. As a serious golfer (and with the score Hall85 shot), I always assume good golfers have a handicap. At least that is how I read the his initial post and follow-up.
 
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Caliknight

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Got it. You just don't like @Caliknight. As a serious golfer (and with the score Hall85 shot), I always assume good golfers have a handicap. At least that is how I read the his initial post and follow-up.

Of course the par matters too. Double bogey net is a different number for a 3 as opposed to a 5.
 
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HALL85

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Geez, didn’t think my post was that controversial...lol. Golf is a game of rules, and I admire people that are fascinated by that aspect. I don’t pretend to know the book front to back but I’m always learning something from people that do.

I do like the Rutgers course. Prefer the back nine especially that stretch of 10, 11 and 12. Then 17 and 18.
 

RU85inFla

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Got it. You just don't like @Caliknight. As a serious golfer (and with the score Hall85 shot), I always assume good golfers have a handicap. At least that is how I read the his initial post and follow-up.
Cali is a big boy and certainly dishes it out. I am sure he can handle it.

Whether or not someone has a handicap is irrelevant. If I shoot a 68 thru 17 holes and make a 12 on the 18th my score for the round is a 80. What I can post for handicap purposes is much lower. Pretty simple concept and your comments continue to prove how the casual golfer mixes it up.

Hall85 shot a 40 on the back. if the hole he got an 8 on was a par 3 , he still shot a 40 on the back.
 
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kupuna133

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Cali is a big boy and certainly dishes it out. I am sure he can handle it.

Whether or not someone has a handicap is irrelevant. If I shoot a 68 thru 17 holes and make a 12 on the 18th my score for the round is a 80. What I can post for handicap purposes is much lower. Pretty simple concept and your comments continue to prove how the casual golfer mixes it up.

Hall85 shot a 40 on the back. if the hole he got an 8 on was a par 3 , he still shot a 40 on the back.
I love how people misinterpret scoring for handicap and scoring. Played with a guy 3 years ago, client of a friend of mine. Guy was bragging at the range that he was a 5. All I heard for 30 minutes was that he was a 5. Go out and play and the guy literally finished 4 holes. He picked up after he met "MAX ALLOWABLE." After the third time picking up from 150 yards out I had to tell him that's not how scoring works. You continue to play to completion you only post "MAX ALLOWABLE." Needless to say he never paid on the nassau.
 

RUevolution36

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I love how people misinterpret scoring for handicap and scoring. Played with a guy 3 years ago, client of a friend of mine. Guy was bragging at the range that he was a 5. All I heard for 30 minutes was that he was a 5. Go out and play and the guy literally finished 4 holes. He picked up after he met "MAX ALLOWABLE." After the third time picking up from 150 yards out I had to tell him that's not how scoring works. You continue to play to completion you only post "MAX ALLOWABLE." Needless to say he never paid on the nassau.
if he's picking up from 150 out multiple times in a round, there's no way he's a 5 to begin with.
 

kupuna133

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if he's picking up from 150 out multiple times in a round, there's no way he's a 5 to begin with.
Exactly!!! He was scoring to create a false handicap. The reverse sandbag i presume. I would have been hard pressed to say he was an 18. But we will never know being he was ball in pocket for most of the round.
 
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Section124

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Cali is a big boy and certainly dishes it out. I am sure he can handle it.

Whether or not someone has a handicap is irrelevant. If I shoot a 68 thru 17 holes and make a 12 on the 18th my score for the round is a 80. What I can post for handicap purposes is much lower. Pretty simple concept and your comments continue to prove how the casual golfer mixes it up.

Hall85 shot a 40 on the back. if the hole he got an 8 on was a par 3 , he still shot a 40 on the back.
Nice pivot. You state the obvious. Your score is your score. Everyone knows that. As I mentioned, I interpreted the conversation for the handicap score. I guess you can't take the Jersey out of people when they move out of state.
 
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RU85inFla

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Nice pivot. You state the obvious. Your score is your score. Everyone knows that. As I mentioned, I interpreted the conversation for the handicap score. I guess you can't take the Jersey out of people when they move out of state.
See kapuna133's post above.

The issue is not everyone that plays golf knows your score is your score. Actually since it is the only sport that utilizes net and gross scoring it is frequently confused as well as manipulated. If anyone is going to invest the monies one does to belong to a club, its best to learn the rules before you get ostracized. That is why I made the comment to Cali.

In the future, anytime I find myself responding to a post of Cali's I'll make sure I run it by you to for a quick sensitivity check.
 

Caliknight

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See kapuna133's post above.

The issue is not everyone that plays golf knows your score is your score. Actually since it is the only sport that utilizes net and gross scoring it is frequently confused as well as manipulated. If anyone is going to invest the monies one does to belong to a club, its best to learn the rules before you get ostracized. That is why I made the comment to Cali.

In the future, anytime I find myself responding to a post of Cali's I'll make sure I run it by you to for a quick sensitivity check.

I play with awesome guys at very prestigious clubs. It's fine, don't worry. Not to mention, seems like you need to learn the rule. There is no way you would know if he carded the correct score without knowing the answers to my questions.
 

Caliknight

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Nice pivot. You state the obvious. Your score is your score. Everyone knows that. As I mentioned, I interpreted the conversation for the handicap score. I guess you can't take the Jersey out of people when they move out of state.

It's amazing he's willing to dig a hole this big an jump in it. All because he doesn't like me lol. #triggered
 
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Caliknight

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I love how people misinterpret scoring for handicap and scoring. Played with a guy 3 years ago, client of a friend of mine. Guy was bragging at the range that he was a 5. All I heard for 30 minutes was that he was a 5. Go out and play and the guy literally finished 4 holes. He picked up after he met "MAX ALLOWABLE." After the third time picking up from 150 yards out I had to tell him that's not how scoring works. You continue to play to completion you only post "MAX ALLOWABLE." Needless to say he never paid on the nassau.

I've seen some Hollywood handicaps, but never that bad before.