I'm pretty sure if you have dual citizenship, you don't need to revoke one in order to participate in international sports. You remain a citizen of both countries.So if a dual national revoked their US citizenship - in this case to compete for China - do they need a visa to re-enter the country despite an address in the US as their legally recognized place of residence?
What??? You don't have to "revoke" your citizenship to represent another country. Where did you get that crap?So if a dual national revoked their US citizenship - in this case to compete for China - do they need a visa to re-enter the country despite an address in the US as their legally recognized place of residence?
They don't have to relinquish it either. Nothing changes by representing another country. Nothing. It doesn't involve your citizenship in any way. The Federal Government isn't involved at all. Its like an actor playing a role of a person from another country.Yeah revoke wasn’t the right word - relinquish…
More a general question.
The post I was referencing was Aileen Gu the ski aerial competition. Her mom was born in China . But she is paid by the CCP. Sorry I’m in favor of competing for the country of your birth evidently some don’t feel that ‘s appropriate in our new global society.
What??? You don't have to "revoke" your citizenship to represent another country. Where did you get that crap?
agree. Beijing should have never hosted. Pyongchang should not have either.Beijing was a **** choice for winter, but there hasn't been decent snow for an Olympics for over a decade. Man-made snow is part of the game, and will continue to be, increasingly so.
They should just host it at one or two venues per continent with the best chance of snow -SLC, Japan, Switzerland/Norway, Vancouver or Calgary, done.
There are Canadians playing for the Chinese team that there only connection is that they live in China for 2 years and have been playing on a Chinese professional hockey . Citizenship isn’t a requirement it seems.That depends on the 2nd country. A lot of countries don't recognize dual citizenship. In this case, from the Chinese perspective, representing China required her to renounce her U.S. citizenship.
Yes we all should have been watching Jesse Owens winning Gold Medals in multiple events over Germans . It was great moment for the free world. A defining moment in Olympic history.I respect this in spirit, and above all, respect you being cordial.
I love the olympics, and thoroughly enjoy it.
But if this was the 1936 or 1940 Olympics games in Germany, should we have been watching? Knowing that media dollars and our complicity would be supporting the Nazis?
I’d like to think if I was in that time period, I wouldn’t watch. Just my opinion.
NBC/Comcast/Universal has an immense amount of power in that complicity. Their news coverage has always been soft on CCP atrocities, and why? Because they have overwhelming business relationships in China.
If NBC’s ratings are crap, then maybe, just maybe other networks think twice about bidding on a dictator’s coronation gathering.
Most importantly, the CCP is not hosting the olympics out of the goodness of their hearts. It is to legitimize their empire, to join hands with Putin in a big public display against the West, and to pony out a poor uighur in the opening ceremony so idiots across the world buy the propaganda.
I want to believe in grand, beautiful vision of the world joining hands and celebrating our athletes. But it’s pretty hard when our very own athletes are being spied on through their phones, ridiculed on state-sponsored social media platforms, fed like dogs, and being used as propaganda pieces.
NPR had a little write-up worth a look, and this only scratches the surface from what’s been reported from eyewitnesses:
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/06/1078570937/olympic-athletes-covid-isolation
Yes we all should have been watching Jesse Owens winning Gold Medals in multiple events over Germans . It was great moment for the free world. A defining moment in Olympic history.
You do realize that the Nazis used the olympics in-part to launch World War 2, right? The fervent, rabid nationalism among the Nazis was stoked during olympics.
Much in the same way Xi is doing it now…
Time to learn some history buddy
Interesting only a week before the Super Bowl, the only threads that appear to be important are about NFL racism and about Eileen Gu, Olympic skier, whether she’s a traitor?
Has Trump affected the way this country thinks? There isn’t even a Super Bowl thread on the board.
think they hosted twice already. '32 and '80 i think.Not a bad idea. This way countries would not have to keep building new arenas, stadiums, etc. What about Lake Placid?
And are you really going to try and argue that the ‘36 and ‘40 olympics didn’t help solidify German nationalism and put Hitler into the spotlight?The fervent, rabid nationalism began well before '36. The Olympics were a minor part, made more minor by Jesse Owens.
Yes that is true as it was already happening around ‘36 but this is very similar. It is nothing more than a propaganda machine and it’s been accepted once again by US invested companies , Big Tech and especially sports figures such as the NBA and NFL players associations.Most sane people see the potential problems. By the way Russia will get bit in the *** eventually by the CCP it is how they have always done business.The fervent, rabid nationalism began well before '36. The Olympics were a minor part, made more minor by Jesse Owens.
You really do have your head in the sand. China has been ramping up as a threat to the world for well over a decade, whether it be the Belt and Road Initiative, creating islands in the South China Sea, Hong Kong, Taiwan, or their horrible human rights record. Yet you continue to pound the drum about DT. As for the racism aspect, and the NFL, the far left has injected racism into practically every discussion on every topic in this country. But hey, continue to divert all you want.Interesting only a week before the Super Bowl, the only threads that appear to be important are about NFL racism and about Eileen Gu, Olympic skier, whether she’s a traitor?
Has Trump affected the way this country thinks? There isn’t even a Super Bowl thread on the board.
And are you really going to try and argue that the ‘36 and ‘40 olympics didn’t help solidify German nationalism and put Hitler into the spotlight?
oh-please
Correct the scheduled 1940 Olympics were earmarked for Tokyo but Japan had other ideas it seems.Earth to Ash, there were no '40 Olympics
There are Canadians playing for the Chinese team that there only connection is that they live in China for 2 years and have been playing on a Chinese professional hockey . Citizenship isn’t a requirement it seems.
And a lot of table tennis players.Does the CCP allow Chinese Nationals to compete for other teams ?
nope. Sometimes you have to make a sacrifice to (hopefully help) make a point.If you love watching them, then that's just dumb.
Sorry, dude.
nope. Sometimes you have to make a sacrifice to (hopefully help) make a point.
This is the LEAD-IN to the OP and you expect the discussion NOT to include geo-political factors ?Guys can you take the politics to the CE board ? Some of us actually are interested in the events.
"The Protest" is about helping to drive down viewership which apparently appears to be having an effect. Obviously I'm not the only one doing so. THAT'S the venue "dude".Did you protest back when Beijing got the bid?
Kinda late now. I'll support our athletes by watching them do what they do.
I'll save statements for venues in which people will actually read them.
They are funny. They are just giving themselves high blood pressure and ulcers like any of their comments are affecting change. Who let them out of the CE board?I know, right? Pretty funny.
I cannot imagine going through life so pissed off all the time. It’s like a hate contest. Whoever hates the most stuff, people, countries, whatever, wins. LOL
"The Protest" is about helping to drive down viewership which apparently appears to be having an effect. Obviously I'm not the only one doing so. THAT'S the venue "dude".![]()
probably not. but I gotta look at my face in the mirror everyday and do what I think is right, regardless.I get that, but do you really think that's changing a thing? China will still China, and IOC will still award bids how it awards bids.
This Olympics will be written off for many reasons.
As Jesus said to us in Corinthians: "And now these three remain: fear, envy and hate. But the greatest of these is hate". Or, you know, something like that.They are funny. They are just giving themselves high blood pressure and ulcers like any of their comment are affecting change.