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koleszar

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I didn't edit.
If it's all about the birthplace, how come no one calls Hakeem Olajuwon a traitor?
How do you know they don't in Nigeria?

If you don't think Xi's going to shove Elieen in the USA's face you're naive. He's going to use her as a propaganda tool with or without her consent. He's going to take that Gold and shove it right up our ***. She's quite naive to think she made any difference except to become a propaganda tool for the Party. But she's only 18 you're a grown adult.
 
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So, at the end of the day, it's all about USA/China. If it's not China, you guys wouldn't say nothing.

Nah. Hakeem played in college here and in the NBA. His life was here. Gu never even lived in China. And btw. F China.
 

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Beijing was a **** choice for winter, but there hasn't been decent snow for an Olympics for over a decade. Man-made snow is part of the game, and will continue to be, increasingly so.

They should just host it at one or two venues per continent with the best chance of snow -SLC, Japan, Switzerland/Norway, Vancouver or Calgary, done.
 

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Gu’s mom is Chinese and was born in China so like many countries that makes Gu herself available if she so chooses.

I could compete for Ireland with Irish born grandparents but my kids can’t, too far removed.
 

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Beijing was a **** choice for winter, but there hasn't been decent snow for an Olympics for over a decade. Man-made snow is part of the game, and will continue to be, increasingly so.

They should just host it at one or two venues per continent with the best chance of snow -SLC, Japan, Switzerland/Norway, Vancouver or Calgary, done.
Not a bad idea. This way countries would not have to keep building new arenas, stadiums, etc. What about Lake Placid?
 

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Haven't watched a single lick of them.

Gotta love all the athletes from the US who were strong armed encouraged to represent China in the Olympic games.
 
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Gu’s mom is Chinese and was born in China so like many countries that makes Gu herself available if she so chooses.

I could compete for Ireland with Irish born grandparents but my kids can’t, too far removed.
Not all countries recognize dual citizenship.
 

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How do you know they don't in Nigeria?

If you don't think Xi's going to shove Elieen in the USA's face you're naive. He's going to use her as a propaganda tool with or without her consent. He's going to take that Gold and shove it right up our ***. She's quite naive to think she made any difference except to become a propaganda tool for the Party. But she's only 18 you're a grown adult.
My point is never about about politics. I am just saying this citizenship thing happens a lot in sports.
 
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Not a bad idea. This way countries would not have to keep building new arenas, stadiums, etc. What about Lake Placid?

If they do two for US, that'd be a good second choice. Would be good for proximity to populous East Coast.

Utah should be #1 since it's newer, a model of success (still in use for training, has actually made $$) and gets way more snow on average. Plus they're ramping up to bid again, anyway.
 

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Beijing was a **** choice for winter, but there hasn't been decent snow for an Olympics for over a decade. Man-made snow is part of the game, and will continue to be, increasingly so.

They should just host it at one or two venues per continent with the best chance of snow -SLC, Japan, Switzerland/Norway, Vancouver or Calgary, done.
Like a permanent rotation.

That could work.
 

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Not necessarily. Some of them have family back in China.
I was going to say…not the hockey guys.

But then thought about what @Caliknight (and surprisingly) Nancy Pelosi said, which is similar to what my Wife said…maybe it really wasn’t their choice? 🤷‍♂️
 

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Not a bad idea. This way countries would not have to keep building new arenas, stadiums, etc. What about Lake Placid?
Lake Placid is one of the few that have ever made money. The economic influx it found in the following years far outweighed the price of the games. It became a boom town and destination location. Be a great place to have it again.
 

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Eileen Gu. Great purchase for China.
I love these NBC shills and how they refer to her as the Chinese girl .She’s an American girl whose mother told her to compete for China. Model, top student will be a student at Stanford , has business ties to LV and Tiffany. Gotta hand it to those Chinese they love to buy American labor and products. Ask the NBA…
 

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Gu’s mom is Chinese and was born in China so like many countries that makes Gu herself available if she so chooses.

I could compete for Ireland with Irish born grandparents but my kids can’t, too far removed.
Wait didn’t someone just post “ she was born in Japan” . Now that is misinformation at it’s finest.
 

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Beijing was a **** choice for winter, but there hasn't been decent snow for an Olympics for over a decade. Man-made snow is part of the game, and will continue to be, increasingly so.

They should just host it at one or two venues per continent with the best chance of snow -SLC, Japan, Switzerland/Norway, Vancouver or Calgary, done.

But then they couldn't all drink water from the well.
 

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Wait didn’t someone just post “ she was born in Japan” . Now that is misinformation at it’s finest.
Gu's mom was born in China.
The Japan talk is about Naomi Osaka who was born in Japan but raised in the US since 3.
 

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That’s my point.

China’s rules my be different than ours or Ireland’s in the example I used.
What I was trying to say is it doesn't work both ways in some countries. It's OK if you want to be an athlete for their country but their citizens can't be athletes for other countries. Osaka was brought up earlier, it's Ok if she plays for Japan but if she was born and living in Japan she could not represent the USA if one parent was from the USA.

Either way all I know thus far this is a bad showing from the USA we're not even close to medaling in a lot of these events. There's really not many Americans the announcers can talk about since they're so far back in the pack.
 
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What I was trying to say is it doesn't work both ways in some countries. It's OK if you want to be an athlete for their country but their citizens can't be athletes for other countries. Osaka was brought up earlier, it's Ok if she plays for Japan but if she was born and living in Japan she could not represent the USA if one parent was from the USA.
Right.

Different rules for different countries.

It would help if there was one across the board rule for stuff like this.
 
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But then they couldn't all drink water from the well.
The post I was referencing was Aileen Gu the ski aerial competition. Her mom was born in China . But she is paid by the CCP. Sorry I’m in favor of competing for the country of your birth evidently some don’t feel that ‘s appropriate in our new global society.
 
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What I was trying to say is it doesn't work both ways in some countries. It's OK if you want to be an athlete for their country but their citizens can't be athletes for other countries. Osaka was brought up earlier, it's Ok if she plays for Japan but if she was born and living in Japan she could not represent the USA if one parent was from the USA.

Either way all I know thus far this is a bad showing from the USA we're not even close to medaling in a lot of these events.
IOC is actually very flexible on nationality. Athletes can also compete for different countries in their career.
 

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For a thread full of people NOT watching the Olympics, sure is a lot of talk about whoever this Gu woman is and what's happening at the Olympics.
Who said anything about watching the Olympics. It’s been a subject discussed all over the news for several weeks if not months.
 
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China blows at the winter Olympics.

Wtf cares if a single athlete chose to compete for them instead of us.

Same whiners complaining about that would be celebrating if it went the other way.
 
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But then thought about what @Caliknight (and surprisingly) Nancy Pelosi said, which is similar to what my Wife said…maybe it really wasn’t their choice? 🤷‍♂️

That's what I was insinuating when I said they had family back in China: either compete for us or your family suffers.

Eileen Gu. Great purchase for China.

She's a traitor. I wish they could revoke her citizenship.
 
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Hey the girl scored a 1580 on her boards and is Stanford bound . Funny how she’s ok with choosing a top American University but dissed the country where she was born. Does anyone believe China would allow that in reverse? It is highly doubtful. Unless it included spying and acquiring sensitive technology .
 
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Hey the girl scored a 1580 on her boards and is Stanford bound . Funny how she’s ok with choosing a top American University but dissed the country where she was born. Does anyone believe China would allow that in reverse? It is highly doubtful. Unless it included spying and acquiring sensitive technology .
Where did you see she dissed the country?
 

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Does anyone believe China would allow that in reverse? It is highly doubtful
It’s not allowed in China
IOC is actually very flexible on nationality. Athletes can also compete for different countries in their career.
Not talking IOC Japan does not allow it either. I finally saw our 1st medal won a silver in downhill. Yay
 
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