OT: NHL Draft
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Great deal for the Rags.
Shero has to make a blockbuster himself. Too many assets and too much cap room to stand pat..especially when you need to add NOW with Hall likely gone if you don’t.
Just saw a stat that the Rags have only won 1 Stanley cup in 79 years. Is that really true? How can they be that bad?
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But I thought Henrik was better. At least that’s what Rags fan say. How many cups has he won? Would think if he was better Rags should have 4 or 5 cups. No way they wouldn’t win any with the King in net.
So would the Patriots without Brady.
And if I had wheels I'd be a wagon.
Two pretty damned good goalies. IMHO you almost have to compare on a season by season basis. And if Henrik played for the Devils he'd have cups to his credit.
Just stop. Henrik is not close to Marty.
Marty is s top 3 goalie of all time who played nearly 20 years. Henrik is a borderline hall of famer. Comparing the two is laughable.
Henrik couldn’t hold Mary’s jock.
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I don't really agree with this. Once the cap is set today, there may be deals to be made with teams that have cap concerned. Tampa or Vegas could be good trade partners. I'd like to see the Devils make 1 or 2 of those. I'm not expecting a "blockbuster" Hall for Larssen type trade though.
This is regarded as one of the deeper drafts. I don't have any issue is the Devils use all of their picks to draft instead of trading them.
I think Hall ends up re-signing with the Devils by September but we'll see. If he doesn't, he should be moved for max assets by the trade deadline at the latest.
Well I never said that. I'm not sure the original intent was for this thread to be some rangers devils pissing match.
We both have young teams gearing up for another run, just enjoy the draft process and let it go. Devils have the tough decision to make, rangers are playing with house money this week
If the Devils pick the better player , it could be like 2017 where Patrick is clearly not as good as Nico
All signs points to the decision having already been made. Given how difficult it is to find elite centers, Hughes is the right call.
I don't think most feel it is going to turn out like that. Both project to be top players with different sets of skills.
Sorry, I see my post may have been unclear. I was talking about Hughes/Kakko not Hishier/Patrick.
No it's not.
This proud nj sports fool comes on a draft thread to start some devils rangers drama. Devils had a nice run, with brodeur, one of the greatest goalies of all time. Otherwise their history says theyve kinda sucked like the ranger. Sorry, but its true. Maybe you dont remember the team being a joke most of the time before Marty. The rangers have also been around much much longer which lend itself to the team potentially sucking more.
Point is this is a draft thread not some dumb pissing match. Carry on with the hughes and kakko discussions, please.
Marty was on the devils for 19 years. The organization has been around for roughly 37. So i wouldn’t call it a short run with Marty.
Rags meanwhile have been around like 90 years and have sucked for 82 of them. And in many of those years there were far less than the number of teams today. You would think by dumb luck they would win more cups
The organization has been around since 74, you need to learn your history. 2 and 1/2 cups in 45 years isn't ground breaking. Lou just got lucky with MB and almost ruined the sport to win those titles. Nothing to crow about.
Get lost. Rags are one of the worst franchises in all of sports from a historical point. And you know it. At least when we had a good goalie we went to 5 Stanley cup finals and won 3. Last I checked the rags blew it with queen lundqvist. To have a goalie that good and not be able to win at least 1 cup really speaks to all time terribleness.
You know, you guys were just about to fold several years ago due to financial problems. I guess the move to that hockey hotbed of Newark hasn't worked out too well.
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Henrik is better. Marty had the benefit of playing in a trap and facing 20 shots a night from dog **** angles in a league where defensemen were able to mug/hold players. Marty's career playing in the era that hank has played in wouldn't have been nearly what it was due to the rules at the time he played. Lets not forget for those cups marty had 2 first ballot HOF's patrolling the blue line with two other defensemen and daneyko and rafalski not being so bad themselves
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Marty wasn't even the best goalie in his era. Just a product of Lou's boring system that almost destroyed the sport (and led to the 2004 lockout).
Dude. Seriously Get lost. You just lost all the little credibility you had on this board. Go write another b-ball post how the team is better without Eugene.
Let’s not forget Henrik also had a team that sat there blocking shots for him. Rags played a very defensive style from 2012-2016. They clogged lanes. And blocked a ton of shots. He has not been nearly as good since the rangers moved away from that strategy.
The NHL meanwhile changed their rules because of Marty. He was so good with the puck he was like a 3rd defenseman. Why do you think they don’t allow goalies to play puck anymore.
Marty also did it over 20 years and won multiple venizas. Even after Stevens and neidermeyer left he still took devs to cup at age39 in 2012 and outplayed queen lundqvist who was in his prime.
Now go back to striking out at the Cage in Hoboken.
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if you think marty outplayed hank in 2012 I got a bridge to sell you. Hank stood on his head and took a crap team to the ECF. Someones maddddddddd
Marty is better then Henrik but Henrik is still a legit Hall of Famer, he's 6th all-time wins, that should make him a shoe-in.
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The Devils were able to play the system they did because of Marty's ability to handle the puck, no other Goalie other than maybe Roy could have replaced Marty as Devils goalie and the Devils not have to change a thing, he was a seventh defenseman back there, Marty WAS the Devils system. You're showing your hockey ignorance, stop.
Huh?
2011-2012 Standings:
https://www.nhl.com/standings/2011/division
Crap teams finish first in the conference and two points behind the President's Trophy winners?
Did you realize that the Devils from 2000-2003 were one of the highest scoring teams in the league? They won two titles in that span and went to another final.
The play was not the reasons for the lockout. Did the play in 2012 lead to the next one? Does the play now mean there's about to be another when the CBA expires?
I guess the fact that St. Louis almost folded makes their current title meaningless. Actually, for those that know their hockey history, St. Louis was so close to folding that they actually skipped an entire draft! Why do fans of one team care whether a different team is successful on the business side?
Maybe he is. It is hard to compare players across eras. But GAAs were much lower during recent times than they were when Marty played. One big difference is the equipment changed for goalies. Compare 1995 goalie equipment to what any goalie was wearing in 2015.