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You mean the guy who was in the NBA Finals last year?

Note: Dallas and their “playing D guy” didn’t make the playoffs at all and lost in the play-in tournament.
To be fair, Dallas was extremely injured this year. Both of their centers were hurt most of the year and Kyrie tore his ACL. Not much Davis could do, he was hurt as well ironically. Lakers didn't have a big man and Luka was hurt or whatever in the playoffs. Both teams weren't complete after that trade .
 
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It is Greene...after Courtney Greene. The RU free safety and not the basketball ref.

Watching clips....wasn't it obvious that the Dallas dude that doesn't play D wasn't going to help the Fakers win?

Happy to see that no playing D guy was a failure.
Courtney Greene, one of my favorites, big hitter, wrs had to be careful in the Rutgers secondary with him around.
 
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In all seriousness.....sometimes looking at data in an unemotionally way can be better than emotionally watching the game.

I remember making observations about a RU preseason boxscore 2 to 3 years ago and I was called out for saying things without even watching the game.

I think that both watching and then following up with a deeper dive into the data would be a more optimal method of making an assessment.

I don't feel that the NBA needs to be fixed, however if you want to bring back the game closer to what you are pining for there is a fairly simple solution. Just limit the number of 3's a team can attempt in a game. Make it around 30 (current.average is 37.5)......after that all shots are worth 2 points. This would make the 3 more strategically used and also increase the value of the inside and midrange play.
 

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Holy crap. I take it all back. I really question the Cavs guys on the bench laughing and having a good time. They folded like a cheap suit. I’ll take the L
 

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Holy crap. I take it all back. I really question the Cavs guys on the bench laughing and having a good time. They folded like a cheap suit. I’ll take the L
3 of 5 starters out, whenever Mitchell was on the bench Indiana took advantage. They had a double digit lead when the injured guys were laughing it up..wish they would've showed their faces when haliburton hit that 3 lol
 

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Donavan Mitchell had 48 and 9 assists, mostly going to the basket. I was ready to post how the cavs and Mitchell learned from missing so many 3s and changed their strategy to win game 2. Then Indiana erased the deficit with a couple 3s and wins it at the buzzer with a 3. Lol and that's why people fall in love with them, they can change the game so quickly, no lead is safe. All of the recent game 1 wins are after 20 point come backs by the road team..
 
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I think that both watching and then following up with a deeper dive into the data would be a more optimal method of making an assessment.

I don't feel that the NBA needs to be fixed, however if you want to bring back the game closer to what you are pining for there is a fairly simple solution. Just limit the number of 3's a team can attempt in a game. Make it around 30 (current.average is 37.5)......after that all shots are worth 2 points. This would make the 3 more strategically used and also increase the value of the inside and midrange play.
similar to my half the game 3s count...last 6 minutes of each quarter.

I actually watched a few possessions early in the MIN-GSW game....game looks clownish. It is crazy how quick Curry gets off a 3, but it really isn't a basketball play...catch and chuck.
 
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Road teams won all opening games in 2nd round of NBA playoffs for the first time. Road teams are now 5-0. This NHL-like insanity.
 
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Holy crap. I take it all back. I really question the Cavs guys on the bench laughing and having a good time. They folded like a cheap suit. I’ll take the L
Cleveland has the talent to win, but no one outside of Cleveland has sympathy for you with all the injuries. And I was correct about Indiana being physical with Cleveland and catching them off guard. IMO, Indiana is not the better team. They are just healthier.
 
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Cleveland has the talent to win, but no one outside of Cleveland has sympathy for you with all the injuries. And I was correct about Indiana being physical with Cleveland and catching them off guard. IMO, Indiana is not the better team. They are just healthier.
You were correct alright. No excuses from me about the injuries. Choke job.
 
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3 of 5 starters out, whenever Mitchell was on the bench Indiana took advantage. They had a double digit lead when the injured guys were laughing it up..wish they would've showed their faces when haliburton hit that 3 lol
They were laughing it up, bad look. game was far from over. Love the Cavs, but I wish they showed that too.
 

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Going to beat a dead horse.....all these games are coming down to 3 point shooting or lack thereof.

We are overly due for that not being the case, but it seems like all you need to do is look at 3 point shooting to see who won the game.
 

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So the teams that shoot better are more likely to win, is what you are saying?
Lol I was going to say, couldn't you always look at who made the most shots to see who won the game? I agree guys are taking too many 3s but it's just the current trend, the trend will change again and again
We are starting to see some guys adjust already after some of the recent losses..games are still super exciting for me.
 
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I’m not a Cavs fan, but losing their PG and PF and an important role player is more than any NBA team could overcome. I understand how incredibly frustrating this must be to Cavs fans - the season looks to end in tears much sooner than expected.

To put some numbers to this, these three were the 2nd, 3rd and 4th leading scorers accounting for well over 50 points, 16 rebounds and 11 assists per game.
Going to beat a dead horse.....all these games are coming down to 3 point shooting or lack thereof.

We are overly due for that not being the case, but it seems like all you need to do is look at 3 point shooting to see who won the game.

That and offensive rebounds.
 
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I’m not a Cavs fan, but losing their PG and PF and an important role player is more than any NBA team could overcome. I understand how incredibly frustrating this must be to Cavs fans - the season looks to end in tears much sooner than expected.

To put some numbers to this, these three were the 2nd, 3rd and 4th leading scorers accounting for well over 50 points, 16 rebounds and 11 assists per game.


That and offensive rebounds.
Rebounding numbers look pretty uniform when i look at various box scores. I look at %s rebounded as opposed to raw rebounds
 

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So the teams that shoot better are more likely to win, is what you are saying?
Games are mostly determined by guys making loghtly contested ot unconrested 23 foot shots.

I am not saying there is no ability to either get “better” looks or on D preventing them, but by in large the dice are determining who wins these games
 

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Games are mostly determined by guys making loghtly contested ot unconrested 23 foot shots.

I am not saying there is no ability to either get “better” looks or on D preventing them, but by in large the dice are determining who wins these games
I understood was just busting balls sorry

I really enjoy the nba playoffs (don't watch much reg season) but not thrilled with all the threes either.

I do think there is more to it then just one v one threes though. Celtics unselfish ball movement usually spectacular. Watching guys on defense anticipate where the ball is going and ability to close under control, etc, don't get that in college ball.
 
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I understood was just busting balls sorry

I really enjoy the nba playoffs (don't watch much reg season) but not thrilled with all the threes either.

I do think there is more to it then just one v one threes though. Celtics unselfish ball movement usually spectacular. Watching guys on defense anticipate where the ball is going and ability to close under control, etc, don't get that in college ball.
Ball movement in 2025 is "easier" than what it was in the past because the court is bigger. I think there is a happy medium between 1990 NBA where it was a cat and mouse game whether the post would be doubled or not vs current NBA.

Yes the officiating is a bit different, but there is no mistaking that offensive efficiency is WAY higher both in the playoffs and regular season. At least in the playoffs I am not using a blanket they aren't playing defense because you guys are telling me that isn't the case. It is just players are so good at making long range shots. I also am going to guess players are in much better shape these days and take care of their bodies so they aren't fatigued as much taking those long range shots. Now a days everyone practices 3s. A big man's time is better spent taking 25 foot shots as opposed to working on being adept from both left and right hand around the basket
 

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Going to score all the remaining NBA games with 36% 3pt shooting
yesterday
Indiana 117
Cleveland 128

Golden State 90
Minnesota 103

Both games were flipped the result because of 3 point shooting

Looking at the rebuttal when looking at GSW-MIN
Minnesota had 4 more TO (4 points)
GS OREB% 38.2% vs 26.6% (6 points because of 5 extra possessions)
FT rate and percentage was a wash
2 pt FG% is important, but I don't feel like researching that.

Problem is the 3 point variable is so huge. In this game it was a net 24 points
 
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I almost can't believe the Knicks are up 2-0. Coming back from big deficits in the third quarter in both games is just incredible and against a very good Celtics team. MSG will be electric on Saturday.
 

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I almost can't believe the Knicks are up 2-0. Coming back from big deficits in the third quarter in both games is just incredible and against a very good Celtics team. MSG will be electric on Saturday.
Mikal Bridges was worth every one of those picks.
 

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Mikal Bridges was worth every one of those picks.
Hilarious I was bitching to my son at the half when he had zero pts and invisible. Amazing he keeps making great defensive plays, and carried them for a while as well
 
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No FG from anywhere in like the last 8 minutes was the bigger issue. Yes they are shooting poorly which is leaving the door open for these large comebacks. I thought Brown made a concerted effort to take the ball to the basket and was very physical. Yet once again either the Knicks did just enough to win or the Celts did just enough to lose.

Knicks 5-0 on the road in the playoffs. Still not thinking the Celtics are out of this.
 
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What the media and some fans are missing about the series:

Boston's poor shooting isn't all about them. The Knicks are playing solid defense and forcing the Celtics into some shots they don't want to take. Going 8 minutes without scoring has signs of defensive pressure playing a part.
Everyone says the Celtics are playing poorly, but the Knicks aren't lighting the world on fire.
Tatum and Brown are scorers, but not closers like Brunson.
Both teams have issues during this series, but not all Boston's issues.
 
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