OT: NBA Playoffs

Greene Rice FIG

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One can analyze Cleveland - Indiana game until the cows come home.

Complete waste of time

Indiana took 36 3 pointers and Cleveland took 38.

Indiana made 19 and Cleveland made 9. That is the analysis and that is what matters in the NBA. You can fool yourself with all the other stuff.

Also...I know I am a loser and a NBA troll. Feel free to remind me.

Epic Game 7 and a heartbreaker for the St. Louis BLues.

Regarding spacing.....NHL could have more spacing if it made the ice bigger, but it is fine the way it is. What makes passing great, in both games, when passes are made in tight spaces.
 

Jerseylegends

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One can analyze Cleveland - Indiana game until the cows come home.

Complete waste of time

Indiana took 36 3 pointers and Cleveland took 38.

Indiana made 19 and Cleveland made 9. That is the analysis and that is what matters in the NBA. You can fool yourself with all the other stuff.

Also...I know I am a loser and a NBA troll. Feel free to remind me.

Epic Game 7 and a heartbreaker for the St. Louis BLues.

Regarding spacing.....NHL could have more spacing if it made the ice bigger, but it is fine the way it is. What makes passing great, in both games, when passes are made in tight spaces.
Lol did you watch the game? Doesn't sound like it, this was actually a very good game that came down to the pacers' defensive intensity and fast pace offense. Cleveland shot poorly but they were also missing their point guard who could have helped get them into better offense. Ty Jerome and Donovan Mitchell took too many 3s though, I'll give you that. But Indiana's defense and pace had a lot to do with the bad shots. Was still an excellent game..
 

Greene Rice FIG

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of course I didn't watch it. It came down to 3 point shooting...that's it. End of story. The dice was hot for Indianapolis and the dice was cold for Cleveland.

Indiana is in trouble if they only won by 9 despite the massive 3 point shooting difference
 

Jerseylegends

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of course I didn't watch it. It came down to 3 point shooting...that's it. End of story. The dice was hot for Indianapolis and the dice was cold for Cleveland.

Indiana is in trouble if they only won by 9 despite the massive 3 point shooting difference
Sure thing, lol you've convinced me...I'll watch the hokey game instead next time. Hopefully they just get rid of the NBA and college basketball as well, it's become a detriment to society. 🙄
 

Greene Rice FIG

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Sure thing, lol you've convinced me...I'll watch the hokey game instead next time. Hopefully they just get rid of the NBA and college basketball as well, it's become a detriment to society. 🙄
I love the game of basketball!!!!!! It is a beautiful game
The way it was supposed to be played!

I like a shot clock (45 seconds). The early 90s went too far with physicality. I do like games played in the high 80s and low 90s. I like each possession being a game within a game.

I hate that stupid 3 point line!!!!!!!
 

Greene Rice FIG

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If the NBA decided in exhibition games the 1st 6 minutes of each period the 3 point line wasn't being used.

Would you
A. Be totally against it and not watch
B. Be totally for it and watch
C. Have a curiosity of what it would look like
 

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I like the proposal to get rid of the corner 3 or allow teams to draw their own 3 point lines in their home court.
 
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Jerseylegends

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If the NBA decided in exhibition games the 1st 6 minutes of each period the 3 point line wasn't being used.

Would you
A. Be totally against it and not watch
B. Be totally for it and watch
C. Have a curiosity of what it would look like
That wouldn't bother me at all...would be interesting to see new strategies...
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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That wouldn't bother me at all...would be interesting to see new strategies...
I don't watch NBA as we know.....

Questions.....
1. What would Hakeem Olajuwon be like playing today? I would think he would have developed an outside shot
2. Wemby.....does the 3 pointer kind of water down what he can do? Would he thrive even more in the game 20+ years ago?
 

Jerseylegends

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I don't watch NBA as we know.....

Questions.....
1. What would Hakeem Olajuwon be like playing today? I would think he would have developed an outside shot
2. Wemby.....does the 3 pointer kind of water down what he can do? Would he thrive even more in the game 20+ years ago?
Hakeem was pretty skilled so I'd think he'd do very well. And he was Godzilla on defense so that works in any era...I feel like wemby takes too many threes as well, I don't know if we would have seen all wemby can do 20 years ago. Don't think he has the body type to score the same way Shaq did, closer to Garnett body type who shot a lot of jumpers.
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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What a comeback by the Knicks tonight. I thought they were dead down 20 early in the second half. I guess KP was unable to play in the second half. That certainly helps.
sorry...boston 9-34 from 3 in 2nd half and nyk 11-19 from 3. Dice went Knicks way.

When a team takes 60 3 point shots the game probably is decided 80+% based on how they shoot a 25 foot shot.

NFL should change TDs to 3 points and FGs beyond 40 yards to 6 points. Love to see some of the best kickers in the game kick. A thing of beauty seeing Donald Igwabuike boot em through from 50.
 

T2Kplus20

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What a comeback by the Knicks tonight. I thought they were dead down 20 early in the second half. I guess KP was unable to play in the second half. That certainly helps.
I listened to the first quarter in the car and it was pretty even. Then saw them down 20 in the 3rd and didn't bother turning on the TV to watch. Oops. LOL!
 

RUforJERSEY

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Cleveland might be in more trouble than some think. Their coach has cast some real doubt on whether Mobley or DeAndre Hunter will be able to go in game 2. And Garland remains a question mark.
 
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One does need to keep the win in perspective. Celts missed 45 3pt shots and thus shot an uncharacteristically low % from 3. While they shoot more threes than most teams I expect they will take the ball to the rim more the rest of the series. They got nothing from KP who evidently was ill and did not come out for the second half.

Towns was lost on defense for a good portion of the game and the Knicks got beat on the boards pretty badly. I guess three point shots result in more long rebounds but Knick needs to minimize this discrepancy to have a shot going forward. Mitch is difficult to play for long given his severe offensive limitations and horrific FT shooting.

Brunson was Brunson in the 4th quarter despite the miss on the potential game winner at the end of regulation. I liked their OT possessions better when the ball moved and others scored. OG was terrific and Bridges had a sneaky good all around game.

I still can't see them winning the series but last night was a nice surprise. 3 road teams have won game 1 of the second round series.
 
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Jerseylegends

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One does need to keep the win in perspective. Celts missed 45 3pt shots and thus shot an uncharacteristically low % from 3. While they shoot more threes than most teams I expect they will take the ball to the rim more the rest of the series. They got nothing from KP who evidently was ill and did not come out for the second half.

Towns was lost on defense for a good portion of the game and the Knicks got beat on the boards pretty badly. I guess three point shots result in more long rebounds but Knick needs to minimize this discrepancy to have a shot going forward. Mitch is difficult to play for long given his severe offensive limitations and horrific FT shooting.

Brunson was Brunson in the 4th quarter despite the miss on the potential game winner at the end of regulation. I liked their OT possessions better when the ball moved and others scored. OG was terrific and Bridges had a sneaky good all around game.

I still can't see them winning the series but last night was a nice surprise. 3 road teams have won game 1 of the second round series.
They were up by 20 still taking 3 point shot after 3 point shot and missing all of them. Jalen brown said in the press conference they settled for too many 3s. I think teams will eventually balance out with the 3s...when they start losing games because of so many bad shots the market will correct it's self..
 

toby83

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Third quarter Celtics took 20 shots. 19 of them threes. Missed most.

What a game!! Even Bridges who I routinely have been cursing out had several big plays both ends. Hart is incredible for a guy without the God given talents everybody else has on court.
 

Jerseylegends

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Third quarter Celtics took 20 shots. 19 of them threes. Missed most.

What a game!! Even Bridges who I routinely have been cursing out had several big plays both ends. Hart is incredible for a guy without the God given talents everybody else has on court.
The Denver game was crazy too, game winning shot from aaron Gordon. Jokic had 40 and 20 lol
 
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Live by the 3 and die by the 3. Also, something you can't track by stats is grit, heart, and nerves. The Knicks showed grit and heart, while the Celtics broke down and they were nervous when it mattered the most. Each game is different and results may be something else in game two, but it showed the Celtics are not invincible. I sensed Boston had some self-doubt when the started fouling Mitchell Robinson. Why start that in the first half?
 

RUJMM78

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The home court advantage has little relevance when most shots are from the 3 point line and referees are allowing more physical contact in the playoffs.
 

RUhasarrived

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After the game ended,Celtics' bettors could have recouped some of their losses had they bet Hickfromfrenchlick at Yonkers at 20-1,as did I to bail me out on the night.
 

toby83

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Live by the 3 and die by the 3. Also, something you can't track by stats is grit, heart, and nerves. The Knicks showed grit and heart, while the Celtics broke down and they were nervous when it mattered the most. Each game is different and results may be something else in game two, but it showed the Celtics are not invincible. I sensed Boston had some self-doubt when the started fouling Mitchell Robinson. Why start that in the first half?
It's funny, because at times Tatum looks like an mvp. But settles for threes too much, and looks hesitant.
Brown has always been a guy who scores in bunches then disappears.
 
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They were up by 20 still taking 3 point shot after 3 point shot and missing all of them. Jalen brown said in the press conference they settled for too many 3s. I think teams will eventually balance out with the 3s...when they start losing games because of so many bad shots the market will correct it's self..
Interesting stats:

The Knicks are 6th in making 3s while Boston is 7th.
The Knicks are 3rd in 3 pt percentage and Boston is 12th. When you get into series where you're playing the same team at least 4 consecutive games, you can figure out something. Perhaps the Knicks played the percentage game with Boston and it worked. Boston overwhelm teams that don't have the ability to counterpunch. The Knicks have guys who can.
 
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The Denver game was crazy too, game winning shot from aaron Gordon. Jokic had 40 and 20 lol
Really questionable decisions by OKC’s coach down the stretch there.

Fouled twice with a three point lead with over 10 seconds remaining and no time coming off the clock. Second one was about 85 feet from the basket immediately on the catch. Second one also happened with Jokic on the bench and Denver with no timeouts left to get him back into the game.

Also burned their last two timeouts after putting Denver on the free throw line twice and had none left to advance the ball after Gordon hit the go ahead 3 with 2.8 remaining.
 
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Jerseylegends

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Really questionable decisions by OKC’s coach down the stretch there.

Fouled twice with a three point lead with over 10 seconds remaining and no time coming off the clock. Second one was about 85 feet from the basket immediately on the catch. Second one also happened with Jokic on the bench and Denver with no timeouts left to get him back into the game.

Also burned their last two timeouts after putting Denver on the free throw line twice and had none left to advance the ball after Gordon hit the go ahead 3 with 2.8 remaining.
Yes while watching the game I said to myself they are extending the game for Denver and putting themselves under tremendous pressure at the line. They couldn't get the ball to shai and holmgrem missed two free throws to leave the door open for Denver to win.. second game winner this playoffs for Gordon..
 
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Degaz-RU

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sorry...boston 9-34 from 3 in 2nd half and nyk 11-19 from 3. Dice went Knicks way.

When a team takes 60 3 point shots the game probably is decided 80+% based on how they shoot a 25 foot shot.

NFL should change TDs to 3 points and FGs beyond 40 yards to 6 points. Love to see some of the best kickers in the game kick. A thing of beauty seeing Donald Igwabuike boot em through from 50.
I don’t like what the NBA has become either, but I will say that the Knicks’ defensive rotations in OT last night were pretty elite and caused either TOs or bad shots.
 
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Jerseylegends

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I don’t like what the NBA has become either, but I will say that the Knicks’ defensive rotations in OT last night were pretty elite and caused either TOs or bad shots.
Green is an OG, just have to let him vent. He doesn't even watch the games. Though when I was watching the Celtics shoot ten straight 3s after going up by 20 and missing them all. His commentary crossed my mind lol.. maybe the Celtics have learned their lesson..
 
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toby83

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I don’t like what the NBA has become either, but I will say that the Knicks’ defensive rotations in OT last night were pretty elite and caused either TOs or bad shots.
yup, couple of the replays i wish they would have highlighted this, they had a guy running to the player before ball was even passed on the swings. Bridges and Anunoby in particular.
 

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sorry...boston 9-34 from 3 in 2nd half and nyk 11-19 from 3. Dice went Knicks way.

When a team takes 60 3 point shots the game probably is decided 80+% based on how they shoot a 25 foot shot.

NFL should change TDs to 3 points and FGs beyond 40 yards to 6 points. Love to see some of the best kickers in the game kick. A thing of beauty seeing Donald Igwabuike boot em through from 50.

Hey Fig. So many people are mentioning Celtics poor shooting when the Knicks also had their issues such as bad free throw shooting and tons of turnovers.

How could the Knicks have been better off if they corrected those parts of their game?
 

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It's funny, because at times Tatum looks like an mvp. But settles for threes too much, and looks hesitant.
Brown has always been a guy who scores in bunches then disappears.

Both Brown, and Tatum are not elite 3 pt shooters. White and Pritchard are the only major players shooting above 40%.
 

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It's funny, because at times Tatum looks like an mvp. But settles for threes too much, and looks hesitant.
Brown has always been a guy who scores in bunches then disappears.
Tatum used to have a midrange game, and he's strong enough to drive to the basket and finish. He abandoned it because of Mazzula's embrace of Mathball. I would think that Boston would attack with the dribble more and test Towns' rim protection.
 

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Green is an OG, just have to let him vent. He doesn't even watch the games. Though when I was watching the Celtics shoot ten straight 3s after going up by 20 and missing them all. His commentary crossed my mind lol.. maybe the Celtics have learned their lesson..

His commentary is silly without watching any of the game. Would be like if everyone on this board provided all insights and game recaps based solely on box scores.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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Green is an OG, just have to let him vent. He doesn't even watch the games. Though when I was watching the Celtics shoot ten straight 3s after going up by 20 and missing them all. His commentary crossed my mind lol.. maybe the Celtics have learned their lesson..
It is Greene...after Courtney Greene. The RU free safety and not the basketball ref.

Watching clips....wasn't it obvious that the Dallas dude that doesn't play D wasn't going to help the Fakers win?

Happy to see that no playing D guy was a failure.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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His commentary is silly without watching any of the game. Would be like if everyone on this board provided all insights and game recaps based solely on box scores.
In all seriousness.....sometimes looking at data in an unemotionally way can be better than emotionally watching the game.

I remember making observations about a RU preseason boxscore 2 to 3 years ago and I was called out for saying things without even watching the game.
 

NickRU714

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It is Greene...after Courtney Greene. The RU free safety and not the basketball ref.

Watching clips....wasn't it obvious that the Dallas dude that doesn't play D wasn't going to help the Fakers win?

Happy to see that no playing D guy was a failure.

You mean the guy who was in the NBA Finals last year?

Note: Dallas and their “playing D guy” didn’t make the playoffs at all and lost in the play-in tournament.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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You mean the guy who was in the NBA Finals last year?

Note: Dallas and their “playing D guy” didn’t make the playoffs at all and lost in the play-in tournament.
They probably only made it because of Rolando Blackman.

Solid comeback by you though
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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The real problem is the Lakers didn't get a defensive big man........

Sound familiar???
Portland Trailblazers with Clyde Drexler, Jerome Kersey and Terry Porter?

OR ARE WE TALKING

2024-25 RU!

As an aside...pretty sure those Trailblazers made Gary Glitter famous.
 
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