OT: Imus Dead

[RUPete]

Agree with this. All In the Family/Jeffersons were very well written and pretty much introduced White America to many racial issues out there. How many of us used to dismiss our old uncles and grand fathers who spoke like Archie Bunker, until we watched AITF and saw that this kind of behavior was so wrong.

I loved All in the Family and Carroll O'Conner as Archie and you absolutely nailed why those shows were so important and well done during that time. My concern is that folks are now re-visiting Archie's character and twisting the intent of the show through various social media memes, messages, etc.

 

[yesrutgers01]

I loved All in the Family and Carroll O'Conner as Archie and you absolutely nailed why those shows were so important and well done during that time. My concern is that folks are now re-visiting Archie's character and twisting the intent of the show through various social media memes, messages, etc.

It is amazing how little people know. That Carroll O'Conner was one of the most liberal people out there.

 

[scarletrat]

The imus I saw, from late 80s on WFAN onward, was painful to listen to. As if his charity made up for what he did as well. Overstayed his welcome, both on radio and in life. Was a rubber freak to look at as well. Good riddance.

 

[DJ Spanky]

"Hoe On A Mission"
Verse 2 is colorful
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That is some truly sweet, sensitive music.

 

[sunsetregret]

Those shows laughed at everyone. They also ultimately told a positive morality (The Jeffersons and Bunkers were ultimately good to each other and the Bunker family loved one another despite deep differences). There are plenty of shows today that in my view still do this (The Simpsons, Family Guy, South Park, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Shameless) and have plenty of political incorrectness.

Imus' comment was deliberately nasty. I doubt any African Americans felt included in his "joke." OTOH, the British original of All in the Family had Archie's character played by a Jewish actor who in his role always joked that Tottenham fans were all Jewish.

If you don't think Imus' show "laughed at everyone," you never watched/listened. His schtick was that he was an old man who hated (and mocked) everyone, often with politically incorrect language. This included his close friends, the people who worked on the show, and the majority of his guests. He called Francesa and Mad Dog "Fatso and Fruitloops" their entire career. And no entity was mocked more on that show than the Catholic church.

EDIT:
I just grabbed a random Imus clip off YouTube. And in this 10 minute clip there is literally no group that doesn't get mocked. He even mocks a disabled Medal of Honor recipient. And butt of the funniest joke? Imus, who at the 7:15 mark has the rest of his crew rolling on the floor while they laugh at him.

 

[BigLou]

dude you are just plain wrong

Agree

Not sure where this criticism of Stringer is coming from, I thought she handled the situation beautifully as did the team. In particular I remember Matee Ajavon and Heather Zurich taking a real leadership role. If Stringer benefited its because the rest of the nation got the opportunity to see the type of person she was off the court.

As far as Imus, he made a racist statement while pushing the boundaries of humor. I don't know if that makes him a racist but he lost his show because of it which was a steep price. He never shirked responsibility and made changes to the show when he returned. It is possible to have been a fan of the Imus program while holding him responsible for the unwarranted and despicable attack on the RU WBB team.

 

[sunsetregret]

Agree

Not sure where this criticism of Stringer is coming from, I thought she handled the situation beautifully as did the team. In particular I remember Matee Ajavon and Heather Zurich taking a real leadership role. If Stringer benefitted its because the rest of the nation got the opportunity to see the type of person she was off the court.

Stringer didn't benefit (unless you count her salary) ... her team steadily declined immediately following the incident until it was in the toilet. I said she did what she did because she believed it would benefit her.

 

[GSGS]

Agree with this. All In the Family/Jeffersons were very well written and pretty much introduced White America to many racial issues out there. How many of us used to dismiss our old uncles and grand fathers who spoke like Archie Bunker, until we watched AITF and saw that this kind of behavior was so wrong.

Yesrutgers, I agree w most of what you say, but would claim that AITF gave us some perspective and understanding of the mindset of that uncle or grandfather.

The AITF episode w Sammy Davis Jr. was an all time classic.

 

[GSGS]

Agree

Not sure where this criticism of Stringer is coming from, I thought she handled the situation beautifully as did the team. In particular I remember Matee Ajavon and Heather Zurich taking a real leadership role. If Stringer benefitted its because the rest of the nation got the opportunity to see the type of person she was off the court.

As far as Imus, he made a raspiest statement while pushing the boundaries of humor. I don't know if that makes him a rascist but he lost his show because of it which was a steep price. He never shirked responsibility and made changes to the show when he returned. It is possible to have been a fan of the Imus program while holding him responsible for the unwarranted and despicable attack on the RU WBb team.

FWIW, excellent post BigLou!!!

 

[pawildcat_rivals209725]

His show, especially some of the interviews, could be interesting, but the whole schtick of the irritable "I-man" and his toadies sometimes got old after a few weeks of listening.

 

[Abro1975]

Stringer didn't benefit (unless you count her salary) ... her team steadily declined immediately following the incident until it was in the toilet. I said she did what she did because she believed it would benefit her.

You can read Stringer’s mind ? Lol

 

[LC-88]

I have a tape recording of a record, circa 1975, of "Imus in the Evening", recorded at a place called "Jimmy's". Anyone else out there hear it? Very funny stuff. RIP Don.

 

[Source]

RUTGERS WOMEN'S BASKETBALL COACH SENDS CONDOLENCES TO DON IMUS' FAMILY

https://www.newsweek.com/rutgers-womens-basketball-coach-sends-condolences-don-imus-family-1479973

also from February, 2018
https://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/barbara-barker/c-vivian-stringer-imus-rutgers-1.16505049

 

[Knightmoves]

She sounds bitter and as if she doesn't really accept his apology. She’s free to have those feelings but she picked a bad time to air them.

“Stringer acknowledged the controversy in her prepared comments to the press. "The Rutgers family has found peace through the years, and we are proud of our response to the hateful words that he had years ago. As African-American women, we don't feel that we should be treated ― or anyone else should be treated ― like that. We are proud of the positive change it has brought about and the lesson that came with it — women and African Americans should be treated with respect, not only in the media, but in all walks of life. It is our prayer that Don finds eternal peace in his passing and we wish his family strength.”

Some condolences from CVS to the Imus widow and family. Not.

CVS looks happier here as her book got published as a result of the Imus situation. No Imus incident equals no book for CVS.

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/standing-tall-c-vivian-stringer/1103375306

 

[NotInRHouse_anon]

If you don't think Imus' show "laughed at everyone," you never watched/listened. His schtick was that he was an old man who hated (and mocked) everyone, often with politically incorrect language. This included his close friends, the people who worked on the show, and the majority of his guests. He called Francesa and Mad Dog "Fatso and Fruitloops" their entire career. And no entity was mocked more on that show than the Catholic church.

EDIT:
I just grabbed a random Imus clip off YouTube. And in this 10 minute clip there is literally no group that doesn't get mocked. He even mocks a disabled Medal of Honor recipient. And butt of the funniest joke? Imus, who at the 7:15 mark has the rest of his crew rolling on the floor while they laugh at him.

Very different terminology he used which I don't think African Americans find to be funny. It would be one thing if it was a black friend he was talking too and they were giving it back, but even then he's pushing it.

 

[MADHAT1]

Looks like some are putting their thoughts into what Stringer said.
Imus dies , gets a condolence thread and some decide to trash Stringer over a incident involving Imus that was settled to everyone's satisfaction by putting their thoughts as to what Stringer's condolence statement was about

Also making like her book would have been a failure without that incident just shows, no matter what CVS does, some will find something wrong with it.

 

[MYHATINTHERING]

Racist is not the same as bigoted

 

[hoquat63]

She sounds bitter and as if she doesn't really accept his apology. She’s free to have those feelings but she picked a bad time to air them.

Doesn’t sound bitter or if the apology wasn’t accepted to me.

 

[sunsetregret]

“Stringer acknowledged the controversy in her prepared comments to the press. "The Rutgers family has found peace through the years, and we are proud of our response to the hateful words that he had years ago. As African-American women, we don't feel that we should be treated ― or anyone else should be treated ― like that. We are proud of the positive change it has brought about and the lesson that came with it — women and African Americans should be treated with respect, not only in the media, but in all walks of life. It is our prayer that Don finds eternal peace in his passing and we wish his family strength.”

Some condolences from CVS to the Imus widow and family. Not.

CVS looks happier here as her book got published as a result of the Imus situation. No Imus incident equals no book for CVS.

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/standing-tall-c-vivian-stringer/1103375306

She's the worst.

Looks like some are putting their thoughts into what Stringer said.
Imus dies , gets a condolence thread and some decide to trash Stringer over a incident involving Imus that was settled to everyone's satisfaction by putting their thoughts as to what Stringer's condolence statement was about

Also making like her book would have been a failure without that incident just shows, no matter what CVS does, some will find something wrong with it.

What criteria did you use to determine "everyone" was satisfied by the resolution of this situation?

 

[MADHAT1]

She's the worst.



What criteria did you use to determine "everyone" was satisfied by the resolution of this situation?

Imus apologizing and having it accepted.
The ones involved are "everyone" directly involved.
But the people inserting their own opinion are not part of that "everyone" group, in my opinion, because they weren't involved.

Here's something Imus' wife said:
>"They gave us the opportunity to listen to what they had to say and why they're hurting and how awful this is," author Deirdre Imus said.

"He feels awful," she said of her husband. "He asked them, 'I want to know the pain I caused, and I want to know how to fix this and change this.'"

Deirdre Imus also said that the Rutgers players have been receiving hate e-mail, and she demanded that it stop. She told listeners "if you must send e-mail, send it to my husband," not the team.<

So if the players on the team, CVS and staff, along with both Don & Deirdre Imus
worked it out between them, those putting their own interpretation of the incident , the apology Imus gave over that incident, Stringer and the team accepting the apology and Stringer's condolences are only proving that whatever Stringer does, they will put their own spin on it and find something wrong with it.

 

[bac2therac]

“Stringer acknowledged the controversy in her prepared comments to the press. "The Rutgers family has found peace through the years, and we are proud of our response to the hateful words that he had years ago. As African-American women, we don't feel that we should be treated ― or anyone else should be treated ― like that. We are proud of the positive change it has brought about and the lesson that came with it — women and African Americans should be treated with respect, not only in the media, but in all walks of life. It is our prayer that Don finds eternal peace in his passing and we wish his family strength.”

Some condolences from CVS to the Imus widow and family. Not.

CVS looks happier here as her book got published as a result of the Imus situation. No Imus incident equals no book for CVS.

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/standing-tall-c-vivian-stringer/1103375306

Something is wrong with you

 

[Knightmoves]

Something is wrong with you

lol. At least I didn’t take a shot at your bff Julie.

Your reputation here is well earned.

 

[bac2therac]

I am fine

 

[sunsetregret]

Imus apologizing and having it accepted.
The ones involved are "everyone" directly involved.
But the people inserting their own opinion are not part of that "everyone" group, in my opinion, because they weren't involved.

Here's something Imus' wife said:
>"They gave us the opportunity to listen to what they had to say and why they're hurting and how awful this is," author Deirdre Imus said.

"He feels awful," she said of her husband. "He asked them, 'I want to know the pain I caused, and I want to know how to fix this and change this.'"

Deirdre Imus also said that the Rutgers players have been receiving hate e-mail, and she demanded that it stop. She told listeners "if you must send e-mail, send it to my husband," not the team.<

So if the players on the team, CVS and staff, along with both Don & Deirdre Imus
worked it out between them, those putting their own interpretation of the incident , the apology Imus gave over that incident, Stringer and the team accepting the apology and Stringer's condolences are only proving that whatever Stringer does, they will put their own spin on it and find something wrong with it.

You can apologize for something you've done (and feel remorseful) and it doesn't mean you're "satisfied" by the ultimate resolution of the situation. I would suggest Imus was not satisfied with being fired, or else all his friends wouldn't have been on the radio the next morning calling his (and their) employer wrong for firing him and saying CBS was foolish if they didn't immediately re-hire him..

 

[hoquat63]

You can apologize for something you've done (and feel remorseful) and it doesn't mean you're "satisfied" by the ultimate resolution of the situation. I would suggest Imus was not satisfied with being fired, or else all his friends wouldn't have been on the radio the next morning calling his (and their) employer wrong for firing him and saying CBS was foolish if they didn't immediately re-hire him..

Sounds like you didn’t much to Imus after he came back on the air. He spoke about the incident quite a few times saying that his meeting and talking with the team was a life changing experience - no need to suck up to his critics or CViv and team once his career was back on track.