So, as long as the statement is preposterous but you agree it is ok? Cool story bro.... listen for the satire... the republisheep and the demosheep are exactly the same but act like they have a monopoly on being correct... the point is that disregarding Covid is ignorant as is the discussion on guns or anything else... but the sheep are too foolish to even try to be moderate...
OT, I got the Rona
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I commend you for taking care of your dad, 93 and in good health is great hopefully you have a few more years with your dad. I lost mine when he 85 with Alzheimer’s or dementia he didn’t know me for his last 6 month. Enjoy every day with your dad
The problem with your assessment is this: If masks work for stopping viruses, how come drs and Healthcare workers didn't wear masks prior to this virus? Influenza A and B is deadly to elderly and other classes of co-morbity individuals. But not one dr or nurse, last year in 2019 wore a damn mask when seeing my daughter who had flu-B. Nor did they wear one when they went to next room to evaluate the next person. So tell me why is that ok?
If you only get one thing through your thick skull, it is this. NO ONE is disregarding Covid. It's the massive govt overreach that is having horrific outcomes in all aspects of our former freedom-loving lives. You wanna shelter in place? Fine by me. Stay home. Was that so hard?
Many health systems require flu vaccines as a condition of employment and as is clearly evident, this is far more deadly of a virus than your typical flu season.
Percent of Covid beds in Douglas County hospitals as of this moment? 15 percent. When should we be concerned? What's the number? Everyone returns to normal life and a day later it shoots to 90%? Please just stop .
So you're saying its ok to pass flu a or b on to others cuz it's not as deadly?
Ok.
No, I’m saying that the providers have been vaccinated and won’t pass it on. Your kid should have been wearing a mask though, the system my wife works for and the system I worked for have asked sick patients to wear masks for at least 15 years.
I agree with you and your wife's workplace protocol. They have taken even the flu seriously.
For the young, influenza is actually worse. I don't see school kids wearing masks during the winter to prevent influenza. Maybe that will be mandated going forward. Then of course if you do suppress influenza the population immunity will drop over time setting us up for a whopper of an influenza pandemic. When you're dealing with population medicine, actions have consequences. It is possible that suppressing this virus will have longer term detrimental effects by causing it to become endemic. I'm not advocating for that position, I'm just stating one possibility.
It is still possible for a vaccinated person to become viremic and transmit influenza. The odds are lower, but it is still possible.
Indeed, I could use 2 outta those 3.Well, it’s mainly orthopedic stuff, so I guess you’re welcome if you need new knees, shoulders, or hips.
The problem is what it does to the rest of the community in particular elderly people. Even though the hospitalization is what you say, when the community infection rate is higher, there's a higher chance of it infecting people who will either become seriously ill or die from it. In our area, they aren't seeing spread from patient to patient in our nursing homes. It's the random 20 something nurse who brings it in and infects several co-workers and a handful of patients that she's caring for. The higher the community infection rate, the more people die in nursing homes and senior communities. And no, masks and PPE aren't stopping those nurses from transmitting the virus.
My spouse cares for COVID patients and while the hospital utilization rate is down due to postponement of procedures, at least our area hospital is getting slammed with COVID patients. The level of care required for a COVID patient is different than the average hospitalized patient. I'm NOT a fan of mandate measures but for heaven's sake I wish people would try to be cautious.
There's WAY too many dumbshits who are sick walking around town without masks. A buddy of mine who owns a body shop said he had a guy in a few days earlier who AFTER he came in without a mask, borrowed a loaner vehicle to go to the grocery store and returned to get his car...... told him THAT HE HAD COVID. Never mind the asymptomatic people which is probably the majority.
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You do know surgical masks weren’t just invented this year?
We know how influenza transmits and it is far less contagious. Universal and precautions exist to keep our patients safe from problems like influenza. Also, as mentioned above we have vaccines and antivirals which drastically reduce mortality.
The problem with your assessment is this. Physicians feel it is important for themselves to wear masks during this pandemic. Why do you think your opinion is better? You really haven’t answered why you know more than them.
Huh? Have you read your posts? You dont stop at the tinfoil hat, you're wearing the body suit too. You got him beat sport, by long ways.
Sorry but I don't buy the idea that influenza is far less contagious. The only thing that slows down influenza is the relatively high degree of population immunity present in our citizens.
It is very apparent that not only Mitch, Nancy and Diane are in bed with Chairman Ye, our President-elect is as well. We have bureaucrats and legislators at the highest level of government who have family members dependent on the Communist Chinese government for billions of dollars of income. God help us.
If physicians feel it is better to wear for this pandemic then fine, let them. They chose not too before rona, knowing that they still could transfer flu to others. And now they tell us all to wear masks.
I dont care if everybody wears masks. Just don't make me wear one when a year ago you didn't. Or the year before that or 2012.
My body my choice, right?
Yes, that is how the calculation of replication of a contagion works. Public health measures drastically reduce the rate of spread of influenza.
The replication rate of pandemic virus is between 2 and 5.
Replication rate of seasonal flu is 1.3 - 1.7.
Once the vaccine is widely distributed the replication of the virus should reduce significantly allowing people to not use drastic precautions to reduce the spread.
When you let Chinese government controlled business use the money they're making off of selling their crap to our citizens turn around and buy up hard assets in the U.S., you have a problem. The Chinese own a large part of our pork production and slaughter capacity. They'll do the same with every other major entity in the U.S. if we continue to let them. It's extremely dangerous for our national security. Never mind all of the infiltration of our technology companies by Chinese nationals.
One of the reasons we are seeing less Flu infections and Flu deaths this year is because of the precautions we are taking for Covid.
Flu generally is transmitted once we symptoms where as Covid transmits when we have symptoms and before we have any symptoms.
Because of the precautions of staying home when we have any symptoms, socially distancing, washing hands and mask wearing...the influenza virus is finding it very tough to transmit this year.
Flu generally is transmitted once we symptoms where as Covid transmits when we have symptoms and before we have any symptoms.
Because of the precautions of staying home when we have any symptoms, socially distancing, washing hands and mask wearing...the influenza virus is finding it very tough to transmit this year.
You have 4 types of people the psychotic ones that probably wear a mask in the shower, you have ones that are diligent that wear a mask when they are supposed to such as going to Walmart or home depot the you have the ones that won’t wear one anywhere but usually stay there distance then you have the moron that half assed wears a mask sometimes but has to go out while they are sick or feeling bad and I mean they go to church or a school event or go grocery shopping
c3o there is your data. It’s too early to say there won’t be a flu season but it’s well under baseline.
Just out of curiosity what is your training so we can know your credentials of refuting this information?
You're aware that physicians do not wear masks to stop viruses right? So why would you try to equate the two?
So your logic is that the precautions stop all the other viruses just not the coronavirus that causes covid?
That doesn't make any sense.
No I wasn’t aware that there was a different reason they are wearing them. What is that reason?
Why don't you research the reason, why physicians wear masks, why surgeons wear masks during surgery. Maybe you could even come back with the results of studies that have measured infection rates of surgeons with and without masks?
Why can’t I ask?
I have a doctorate in an allied health field and a MPH. I’m certainly not an expert in virology and I am not a physician, but I feel like I can effectively evaluate data and draw conclusions. I also trust the opinions of friends who are physicians.