Once again you're obfuscating by creating a straw man to knock down. Nobody on this thread said racism didn't exist in the 40's. We just provided facts that contradicted the narrative you wanted to create. And considering Trump wasn't even alive when these events occurred, bringing him into this discussion is merely another distraction to draw attention away from the fact that your narrative was factually incorrect.
OT: Hiroshima 75 Years Ago
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Once again you're obfuscating by creating a straw man to knock down. Nobody on this thread said racism didn't exist in the 40's. We just provided facts that contradicted the narrative you wanted to create. And considering Trump wasn't even alive when these events occurred, bringing him into this discussion is merely another distraction to draw attention away from the fact that your narrative was factually incorrect.
Interesting netflick doc on HItlers extended family.
CORPSMAN HITLER, U.S. NAVY?
http://lyonairmuseum.org/blog/corpsman-hitler-us-navy
CORPSMAN HITLER, U.S. NAVY?
http://lyonairmuseum.org/blog/corpsman-hitler-us-navy
I'm glad you admit racism existed in the 1940s. No white country would have been nuked. No white people would have been rounded up.
You're entitled to your opinion. What's missing is factual backup because there is none. In fact, although it numbers are much smaller, there were Germans rounded up and interned during WWII. And has been mentioned repeatedly, Germany was defeated before there was an operational nuclear weapon.
Well congratulations!!! You've just put up the most irrelevant post of the day!!!!
No one here was talking about personal valor or "I would have done this".
It's a discussion of history. A discussion of facts and alternatives.
I don't see the correlation of military service and this thread.
Oh and by the way, in addition to be an avid reader, while not being a PHD i do have a degree in History.
Dont mean to hijack this but read this book (Nelson Denis' WAR AGAINST ALL PUERTO RICANS) with an open mind and it would prove some of the above correct.
And thank you for your service, Sir.
The Leftys hate our country
They only see race, skin color, division
It's the core reason why every thread goes south
Now you're against books with facts and history. You're probably one of those great people who gets along with everyone as long as they agree with you. How dare someone have a different opinion.
You keep proving my point.
I'm done wasting my time with a senile baiter, I'd call up Al Sharpton if I was interested in that.
Enjoy another Mets loss and YOU'VE BEEN BLOCKED :Hammer Nails:
Wasn't it the Left burning books in Portland?
I stand corrected this could be the most outlandish post on this thread.
Number of inmates executed in Nazi concentration camps:
Estimated to exceed 6.000,000
Number of inmates executed in American internment camps: 0
Just pointing out the group/groups in America who appear to be "against books".
Okay, what's your point? That it wasn't racist to round up all Americans of Japanese descent and force them into concentration...sorry...internment camps?
My point being that it seems that you're trying to equate the two but we just use the term "internment" to justify it because it was just "a bunch of Tojos".
p.s. Tojo is a proper noun.
We can go back and forth playing word games and quoting Mr. Webster. We all know what the term concentration camp means.
I understand your argument. If we are being pedantic, concentration camp is *not* a proper noun.
Actually it wasn't "all Americans of Japanese decent". It was substantially all Americans of Japanese decent residing on the West Coast. Now that was a substantial number, over 100,000, but not nationwide. And in Hawaii, a US Posession at the time, a relatively few were interned.
I'll tell you when we see surveillence satellite photos to determine the number of graves/crematorium compared to the number of detainees.
You're treating concentration camp as a proper noun. It's not. It's a general term and my usage is appropriate. It was a racist program. That makes me wonder, fairly, if it was easier to indiscriminately kill a half million tojos than a European lot. Particularly where we all seem to agree that we were a racist nation generally in 1940.
No we DON'T all agree that we were GENERALLY a racist nation. There was racism, but it was not our national identity as you imply.
I recommend a little less Alinsky and a little more history.
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I was using the term as it is generally recognized in conjunction with WW II. In the light of looking back at things 80 years in the future it was a terrible thing to do to a group of Americans. But much more understandable in the situation we were in in 1941.
Didn't say it was right, didn't say it wasn't based on race, just saying it's understandable.
Japan and Germany were both working on an atomic bomb and would have used them
New evidence of Japan’s effort to build atom bomb at the end of WWII
https://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-japan-bomb-20150805-story.html
Also - China is still bitter about US letting Japan off the hook for its war crimes. This is unrecognized by most Americans
New evidence of Japan’s effort to build atom bomb at the end of WWII
https://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-japan-bomb-20150805-story.html
Also - China is still bitter about US letting Japan off the hook for its war crimes. This is unrecognized by most Americans
King - Sorry, but this post is asinine. VE day was May 8, 1945. The Trinity test wasn't until July 16th. There was no bomb to drop.
D'uh.
That’s not what Kamala Harris said
I really don't think is either. I just think he doesn't realize what he's saying half the time.
In the interview where the reporter asked about him being tested the most alarming part for me was at the end when he couldn't spit out the word "fitness".
But killing them in the millions with conventional weapons was ok? If we were racist we would have had black, asian and latino troops storming the beaches.
Joe Biden was a few months short of his 3rd birthday when the Hiroshima happened. I don't hold him responsible or consider it a manifestation of racism on his part. If you want to discuss his current status, feel free to start a new thread. But given it would be 100% political I predict a very quick lock or deletion. In the meantime, this is just more obfuscation with respect to the subject at hand.
I would be very interested to hear your responses to the facts presented in this thread regarding how the Japanese were treated. Did you read them?
By the way, I am not a MAGA guy.
Which is worst; to starve to death 85,000 soldiers in a Death March and it's aftermath of years in prison or bomb and wipe out that same number in an instant ?
When people are willing to agree that BOTH are vile and awful things to happen to mankind from governmental decisions, then we have a hope of peace.
But then you have to move over to various 'religions' in the World next.
When you 'fix' religious wars, then we can look at one man dictatorships and the citizens that facilitate and allow that person to control their lives.
Wake me when that happens. I'll be with Ted Williams....
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