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Mikemarc

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Or, better yet, he can do whatever the f he feels best and you can complain about that on a three-page football forum OT about how much no one cares. Seems to work just fine.
Asking a question isn’t complaining..I don’t think.

Just weird to me that he announces what he’s gonna do.
 

MADHAT1

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His efforts would be better spent trying to get a sit down with president biden and see about getting something real done .
actually even if he , President Biden , all the parents of the children that died in school shootings from Sandy Hook to Uvalde came up with a workable plan to save children from being shot in classrooms, the Republicans in Congress would oppose making a federal law to protect any child if it meant restricting access to guns .
The GOP will always find an excuse for opposing any gun control law and point the finger elsewhere for the reason that law wasn't passed .
 

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actually even if he , President Biden , all the parents of the children that died in school shootings from Sandy Hook to Uvalde came up with a workable plan to save children from being shot in classrooms, the Republicans in Congress would oppose making a federal law to protect any child if it meant restricting access to guns .
The GOP will always find an excuse for opposing any gun control law and point the finger elsewhere for the reason that law wasn't passed .

Not to get partisan here..but Dems control house, senate and White House. Nows the time to pass a bill for the Democrats!!
 

MADHAT1

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This is the ultimate virtue signaling by Kapler. Interesting that he stood for the flag on Memorial Day to honor fallen soldiers. But today it’s back to protesting against the US again and missing the anthem.

He could never hit for beans as a player with the Red Sox. Maybe this will be a big hit for him as the media publicizes his cause to liberals before the 22 elections.
As a player, he made the Major League and lasted 12 years as a player., even if not the greatest he played MLB and tha more than most people that tried to play .could do and longer than a lot that made the majors.

As for standing for the Flag on Memorial Dy, that was showing respect for those who gave their lives in service to the USA and honor their sacrifice.
Proving his stance is not against the flag or the members of the military service who put thir lives on the line for America, but against the politicians that refuse to make our nation great enough to protect its children.
 
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Not to get partisan here..but Dems control house, senate and White House. Nows the time to pass a bill for the Democrats!!
their control is slim 50-50 in Senate , with tiebreaker and more than 51 is needed to get laws passed especialy with two Democrats not willing to fight to get the bills passd , allowing the GOP filibustering any bill put in front of them to its death.
As for the HOR, many times the Dems pass a bill, but the Senate GOP members and a Dem or two make sure that Bill doesn't see the light of day.
Dems have a majority, but not enough to overcome the GOP obstructing bills the Dems try to pass.

Also Dem congressmen/women aren't in lockstep with what their party demands they do, the GOP members are in lockstep with the leaders of thir paty because they are told obey or you're out when it comes time for re-election.
 

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As a player, he made the Major League and lasted 12 years as a player., even if not the greatest he played MLB and tha more than most people that tried to play .could do and longer than a lot that made the majors.

As for standing for the Flag on Memorial Dy, that was showing respect for those who gave their lives in service to the USA and honor their sacrifice.
Proving his stance is not against the flag or the members of the military service who put thir lives on the line for America, but against the politicians that refuse to make our nation great enough to protect its children.
“but against the politicians that refuse to make our nation great enough to protect its children.”

Politicians can secure the Uvalde school door that was left open for the shooter to access the school?

If all of the post Columbine standards were followed last week, the shooter would not gained access to the school and Police would have neutralized him almost immediately.

I favor increasing the age to 21 to buy a firearm, but guns will still be easy for 18 year olds to get off the street. Multiple changes need to be made to gun laws.
 

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“but against the politicians that refuse to make our nation great enough to protect its children.”

Politicians can secure the Uvalde school door that was left open for the shooter to access the school?

If all of the post Columbine standards were followed last week, the shooter would not gained access to the school and Police would have neutralized him almost immediately.

I favor increasing the age to 21 to buy a firearm, but guns will still be easy for 18 year olds to get off the street. Multiple changes need to be made to gun laws.
It's crazy how 18 year old Americans who want to kill are so much better than 18 year old Australians at getting guns off the street.
 
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“but against the politicians that refuse to make our nation great enough to protect its children.”

Politicians can secure the Uvalde school door that was left open for the shooter to access the school?

If all of the post Columbine standards were followed last week, the shooter would not gained access to the school and Police would have neutralized him almost immediately.

I favor increasing the age to 21 to buy a firearm, but guns will still be easy for 18 year olds to get off the street. Multiple changes need to be made to gun laws.
when it comes to information about the Uvalde school shooting the info seems to change from what was first claimed to something else.
Could be because better info is becoming available, the original spokesperson lied or a combination of both .
Now the door info changed from the rock being placed to keep the door open and killer accessed door, to the rock was taken out and door shut but not locked.
It seems like someone challenged the rock propping open door claim the police first reported and now it's being claimed a person closed that door but didn't lock it.
 

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when it comes to information about the Uvalde school shooting the info seems to change from what was first claimed to something else.
Could be because better info is becoming available, the original spokesperson lied or a combination of both .
Now the door info changed from the rock being placed to keep the door open and killer accessed door, to the rock was taken out and door shut but not locked.
It seems like someone challenged the rock propping open door claim the police first reported and now it's being claimed a person closed that door but didn't lock it.
Not at all impossible. I know the door I enter every day at my school sometimes doesn't lock. I have to be sure to pull it tight. If I were running from a gunman, I have no idea if I'd remember to do that or not.
 

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It's crazy how 18 year old Americans who want to kill are so much better than 18 year old Australians at getting guns off the street.
Has anyone noticed the shooters aren’t 16 or 17 years old? They wait for 18 years old to purchase a gun. Push it to 21.
 
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Not at all impossible. I know the door I enter every day at my school sometimes doesn't lock. I have to be sure to pull it tight. If I were running from a gunman, I have no idea if I'd remember to do that or not.
>The Texas Department of Public Safety also has walked back a statement that a teacher had propped open a door used by the shooter to enter the school, saying instead that an automatic lock failed.<

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/31/uvalde-school-police-chief-investigation/
 
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Does anyone here take him seriously? He will let us know when the US is living up to his standards?

“Kapler said Friday he will no longer stand with his team for the national anthem until he "feels better about the direction of our country" in the wake of the Texas school shooting on Tuesday that left 19 students and two teachers dead.

"I don’t plan on coming out for the anthem going forward until I feel better about the direction of our country," he told reporters before Friday’s game. "That’ll be the step. I don’t expect it to move the needle necessarily. It’s just something I feel strongly enough about to take that step."

“Every time I place my hand over my heart and remove my hat, I'm participating in a self congratulatory glorification of the ONLY country where these mass shootings take place," Kapler wrote on his blog.
Do you suppose Gabe Kapler, whoever he is, will applaud this change of direction over what happened in TX? I sure do.



For those who won't the read articles, a felon attempted a mass shooting in WV a few days ago. He started firing a semiautomatic rifle, that he couldn't legally have, at a birthday party with around 40 people. A woman (not LE) observing this, drew her legally owned and carried handgun and shot the felon dead before he could hit anybody.

People make fun of WV folks for their habit of carrying guns all the time. But it sure worked out this time for the 40 people at the birthday party.
 
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“Kapler said Friday he will no longer stand with his team for the national anthem until he "feels better about the direction of our country" in the wake of the Texas school shooting on Tuesday
What a self absorbed a**hole.!!! Let's do all we can to make sure Gabe "feels better about the direction of our country." Want to feel better about the direction of the country? How about doing something about the direction of your city???? Has he made any statements about the recall of DA Chesa Boudin? This is a guy whose policies have turned one of America's most beautiful cities into a sewer, literally. Show a little concern locally Gabe before fixing the country.
 

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What a self absorbed a**hole.!!! Let's do all we can to make sure Gabe "feels better about the direction of our country." Want to feel better about the direction of the country? How about doing something about the direction of your city???? Has he made any statements about the recall of DA Chesa Boudin? This is a guy whose policies have turned one of America's most beautiful cities into a sewer, literally. Show a little concern locally Gabe before fixing the country.

He's a self-absorbed ******* for wanting to see a solution to school shootings ....like the rest of the country?

Why's he have to prioritize YOUR defective issue over what matters to him? Talk about self absorbed.
 

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If Kaplan wants to make a change he should actively protest the lack of term limits in the swamp. They do nothing but lob grenades at each other. He should gather a large group of people and peacefully protest outside of the capital. That I can get behind because we do need a change. All dinosaurs must go.
 
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He's a self-absorbed ******* for wanting to see a solution to school shootings ....like the rest of the country?

Why's he have to prioritize YOUR defective issue over what matters to him? Talk about self absorbed.
He doesn't have to justify anything to me but please tell me what sitting in the clubhouse during the national anthem does to help stop school shooting???
I can just see right now McConnell, Schumer, Pelosi and McCarthy all sitting around a table in DC saying we better do something or Gabe Kapler won't come out for the national anthem.
As for my defective issue, which I'm assuming is the situation in SF. He needs to clean up his own yard before he starts to criticize the neighbor.
 

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Do you suppose Gabe Kapler, whoever he is, will applaud this change of direction over what happened in TX? I sure do.



For those who won't the read articles, a felon attempted a mass shooting in WV a few days ago. He started firing a semiautomatic rifle, that he couldn't legally have, at a birthday party with around 40 people. A woman (not LE) observing this, drew her legally owned and carried handgun and shot the felon dead before he could hit anybody.

People make fun of WV folks for their habit of carrying guns all the time. But it sure worked out this time for the 40 people at the birthday party.
The incident you’re talking about makes a good case for gun ownership and I agree what she did proves guns can be used for a person's protection and for saving the lives of others.
That should never be denied to the type of people we might call a good person.

Hopefully people like that women always will be allowed to keep a weapon handy to use against bad actors.
It’s the bad actors and means to commit mass murder that gun laws need to address, not people like her.

Now on the other hand incidents like she was involved in don’t happen every time a threat is perceived and mistakes might just cost an innocent life if a perceived threat is handled wrong.
Those type of cases need to be part of the [picture, only to show mistakes that cost lives are made by gun owners as well.
There are incidents we hear of about people shooting family members coming in the house because the person already in the house wasn't expecting anyone and thought the person entering the house was a threat because they didn't know who it was entering the house , even though the person that wound up being shot lived there

Here's another case of shots being fired without really knowing the threat is real:

Teen shot, killed in "tragic accident" was mistaken for a dangerous animal, DA says​

Tuesday, May 3rd 2022
>At this time, the two men were on a path above the embankment and reported hearing "what they perceived as a growl and stick breaking down the hill from where they were standing. Both also saw a dark figure and perceived the figure to be a threat."<



https://wlos.com/news/local/henders...eriffs-office-district-attorney-andrew-murray
 

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He doesn't have to justify anything to me but please tell me what sitting in the clubhouse during the national anthem does to help stop school shooting???
I can just see right now McConnell, Schumer, Pelosi and McCarthy all sitting around a table in DC saying we better do something or Gabe Kapler won't come out for the national anthem.
As for my defective issue, which I'm assuming is the situation in SF. He needs to clean up his own yard before he starts to criticize the neighbor.

I didn't say he had to justify anything to you. I asked why he's supposed to pursue your issue rather than the one that he (and the sane part of the country) deems most important? So I ask again: Why exactly does he need to "clean up his own backyard" first? He's not the mayor and I don't even know wtf "the neghbor" means in that lost-in-fog analogy.

As for what it's doing ...it's using his platform and voice to protest the fact that children are forced to attend school in fear and our useless leaders are doing nothing about it. If you bothered reading the article before losing your ****, you'd see he doesn't actually expect it to move the needle. But it's something he, and millions of others, feel deeply about, so he's speaking out. I thought what he wrote on the subject was spot-on and much more useful than the peanut gallery criticizing everyone who dares speak up on this absolute national failure. Readjust your priorities.
 

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I didn't say he had to justify anything to you. I asked why he's supposed to pursue your issue rather than the one that he (and the sane part of the country) deems most important? So I ask again: Why exactly does he need to "clean up his own backyard" first? He's not the mayor and I don't even know wtf "the neghbor" means in that lost-in-fog analogy.

As for what it's doing ...it's using his platform and voice to protest the fact that children are forced to attend school in fear and our useless leaders are doing nothing about it. If you bothered reading the article before losing your ****, you'd see he doesn't actually expect it to move the needle. But it's something he, and millions of others, feel deeply about, so he's speaking out. I thought what he wrote on the subject was spot-on and much more useful than the peanut gallery criticizing everyone who dares speak up on this absolute national failure. Readjust your priorities.
Thank you for your opinion. I'll be sure to give it thoughtful consideration.
We might actually agree on a lot but it maybe getting as you say lost in the fog.
Like you I'm frustrated by the situation. In absence of meaningful action by our leaders meaningless gestures by public figures annoy me.
But that's just me.
 

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Thank you for your opinion. I'll be sure to give it thoughtful consideration.
We might actually agree on a lot but it maybe getting as you say lost in the fog.
Like you I'm frustrated by the situation. In absence of meaningful action by our leaders meaningless gestures by public figures annoy me.
But that's just
kapler needs to forget about sitting during the anthem and go get an audience with our leaders in the White House and plead with them to do something constructive and comprehensive.
 

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It's as simple has having that side door properly locked. The teacher who kept it propped open has to live with the fact that they didn't close that door and if they had some, if not all of these deaths may have been prevented.
You think a locked side door will stop a man with an AR 15. How about him not being able to purchase an AR 15, the police delay in responding, there are so many things that need to be evaluated. I know one thing, we don’t send our soldiers to war with a 9 mm because they are going against AR-15, so why would we allow citizens to have more fire power then the police. It the equivalent of bringing a knife to a gun fight
 

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You think a locked side door will stop a man with an AR 15. How about him not being able to purchase an AR 15, the police delay in responding, there are so many things that need to be evaluated. I know one thing, we don’t send our soldiers to war with a 9 mm because they are going against AR-15, so why would we allow citizens to have more fire power then the police. It the equivalent of bringing a knife to a gun fight
I hope you read my later post. Obviously an individual like this is not going to be stopped by a locked door. What I said is that the locked door might have bought the police some precious time to intervene and potentially save some lives.
I also mentioned previously that I'm a supporter of the Second Amendment but I don't think anyone under the age of 21 should be able to purchase any firearm. A kid can walk out of a store with an AR 15 but he can't buy a 6 pack of Bud? Let's use some common sense.
 
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I hope you read my later post. Obviously an individual like this is not going to be stopped by a locked door. What I said is that the locked door might have bought the police some precious time to intervene and potentially save some lives.
I also mentioned previously that I'm a supporter of the Second Amendment but I don't think anyone under the age of 21 should be able to purchase any firearm. A kid can walk out of a store with an AR 15 but he can't buy a 6 pack of Bud? Let's use some common sense.
The answer is that 18 years old's should not be prevented from drinking. It's wrong to make the drinking age 21.
 
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The incident you’re talking about makes a good case for gun ownership and I agree what she did proves guns can be used for a person's protection and for saving the lives of others.
That should never be denied to the type of people we might call a good person.

Hopefully people like that women always will be allowed to keep a weapon handy to use against bad actors.
It’s the bad actors and means to commit mass murder that gun laws need to address, not people like her.

Now on the other hand incidents like she was involved in don’t happen every time a threat is perceived and mistakes might just cost an innocent life if a perceived threat is handled wrong.
Those type of cases need to be part of the [picture, only to show mistakes that cost lives are made by gun owners as well.
There are incidents we hear of about people shooting family members coming in the house because the person already in the house wasn't expecting anyone and thought the person entering the house was a threat because they didn't know who it was entering the house , even though the person that wound up being shot lived there

Here's another case of shots being fired without really knowing the threat is real:

Teen shot, killed in "tragic accident" was mistaken for a dangerous animal, DA says​

Tuesday, May 3rd 2022
>At this time, the two men were on a path above the embankment and reported hearing "what they perceived as a growl and stick breaking down the hill from where they were standing. Both also saw a dark figure and perceived the figure to be a threat."<



https://wlos.com/news/local/henders...eriffs-office-district-attorney-andrew-murray
There are going to be plenty of situations where people stupidly shoot perceived intruders or perceived threats that turn out not to be intruders or deadly threats. And plenty of suicides. And plenty of jealous spouses.

The problem is that there will also be plenty of cases where there are intruders and threats. This was one such case where a criminal with an illegal weapon attempted to kill a bunch of innocent people. Ban guns and that woman would've not had her legal gun, nor been allowed to train with it. But the criminal would still have had the gun, and still attempted to kill a bunch of innocent people. Only difference is that he would've succeeded.

If not for that woman and WV's permissive carry laws, a whole bunch of innocent folks at that birthday party would be dead today. If I, or a large number of other legal gun owners across the nation, happened to be near that school in TX, and saw that kid walking towards the school wearing body armor and carrying a rifle, he almost certainly would've been confronted and there's a strong possibility he would never have made it to the school and all those kids and teachers would be alive today.

People keep trying to define life in terms that oversimplify reality to a point where absolutist solutions appear valid. But reality is reliably uncooperative in allowing itself to be simplified in a way that allows absolutist solutions ever work.
 
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Wasnt Kerr the same guy on vid from 2 years ago wanting to remove police protection from schools

And we saw what the police did at a school shooting last week?

But for the police, who would handcuffed and pepper sprayed parents begging them to do their basic job function?
 

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Uh, that’s a hard no
I'd probably make it 16 which is when kids start drinking anyway.

Wanna be really safe, why not ban driving altogether at any age? Ban alcohol. Hell, let's ban leaving our homes for any reason. Statistically speaking, there would be a nearly 100% drop in automobile deaths and DWI and deadly accidents and public shootings and all kinds of stuff.

Ban life. That way we can all live safely forever.
 

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And we saw what the police did at a school shooting last week?

But for the police, who would handcuffed and pepper sprayed parents begging them to do their basic job function?
Between police responses like the one we witnessed in TX and laws banning legal gun ownership and carry permits, we can create a perfect world in which only criminals own and carry guns and get to use them with impunity.

Woo hoo?
 
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It's as simple has having that side door properly locked. The teacher who kept it propped open has to live with the fact that they didn't close that door and if they had some, if not all of these deaths may have been prevented.

You are smart enough to know he'd have shot through a window, a door, etc.

And then when he does? The cops still do nothing outside but stand there and arrest parents.

We could very easily raise the gun age to 21, first off. If you can't drink a White Claw you can't hold a gun. Secondly, universal background checks that include having to put forward a recommendation (like NJ requires) from a friend or family member. And lastly, no more AR-15s, period. They're the weapon of choice for these attacks. If people like them so much, go join the military.
 
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Texas has armed teachers. Are they now forcing teachers to be armed? The far right are communist.

Teachers should be trusted with guns, but can't trust them with books about the Holocaust or with sex scenes or LGBT characters.

Makes total sense.

Definitely want the 60 year old teacher who we need to monitor during lessons on slavery taking on an 18 year old with an AR-15 and 300 rounds.
 
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Between police responses like the one we witnessed in TX and laws banning legal gun ownership and carry permits, we can create a perfect world in which only criminals own and carry guns and get to use them with impunity.

Woo hoo?

*Or* we can join every single developed nation on the planet, and:

- Properly train the police
- Ban AR-15s, have a universal background check that requires at least one friend or family remember to sign off you're not insane, and prove you have a real need for a weapon.

Weird how Canada, Australia, and all of Western Europe don't have this problem. Did they just eliminate mental health issues? No one in Canada is crazy?

The narrative of "good guy with a gun" is asinine especially in a state like Texas where the laws allow 18 year old psychopaths to be armed like like they're on patrol in Damascus who then can outgun the awfully trained, and frankly wimpy, police.

40% of the Uvalde budget goes to the police...talk about waste of taxpayer dollars...
 
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Didn't realize "opposing children getting mowed down in the classroom" was a virtue that needed signaling.

It's OK to step beyond cliches and catchphrases and articulate original thoughts.

Oh yes, haven't you heard?

Kids reading books? BAN BOOKS!

Raped teenager wants an abortion? BAN ABORTION!

People want to smoke weed? BAN WEED!

Critical Race Theory taught to law students?! OH YOU BETTER BELIEVE THAT'S A BANNING!

Twitter bans our one and true Dear Leader?! BAN THE BAN!!!

Kids get gunned down in class room? Can't have restrictions on guns. Crazy people will get them anyway.

This is the pro-life position, and to say otherwise is simply virtue signaling!
 
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“but against the politicians that refuse to make our nation great enough to protect its children.”

Politicians can secure the Uvalde school door that was left open for the shooter to access the school?

If all of the post Columbine standards were followed last week, the shooter would not gained access to the school and Police would have neutralized him almost immediately.

I favor increasing the age to 21 to buy a firearm, but guns will still be easy for 18 year olds to get off the street. Multiple changes need to be made to gun laws.

Yeah, totally.

He definitely couldn't have shot through a window with 300 rounds and 2 AR-15s.

And the police totally would have stopped him. Would this be before or after they arrested parents telling them to do their job?

The police did such a wonderful job they're refusing to talk to other law enforcement about what they did. Because "comply with lawful commands" and "don't resist" and all that jazz.

And I guess closing the door would totally work in the Buffalo supermarket, the El Paso Wal Mart, the Pittsburgh synagogue, the Las Vegas concert. Maybe let's have people parachute in to pick up groceries. Maybe houses of worship can just open a skylight. Anything but touch the precious guns.
 
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It's crazy how 18 year old Americans who want to kill are so much better than 18 year old Australians at getting guns off the street.

Australia must have banned doors, porn, single parents, video games and have no mental health issues.

Simply it couldn't be anything else.
 
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actually even if he , President Biden , all the parents of the children that died in school shootings from Sandy Hook to Uvalde came up with a workable plan to save children from being shot in classrooms, the Republicans in Congress would oppose making a federal law to protect any child if it meant restricting access to guns .
The GOP will always find an excuse for opposing any gun control law and point the finger elsewhere for the reason that law wasn't passed .

"Shall not be infringed" is pretty clear. I know ya'll Lefties like to ignore the Constitution when it suits you but if you don't like the 2A, amend the Constitution. If the public doesn't support the amendment then you're SOL.

Besides how does restricting the right of law abiding Americans help with criminals and crazies? I'd be looking at the destruction of Western/American/Male society as a possible cause of the craziness of young male shooters. You guys willing to stop those attacks on normal American culture? If not well, get a mirror because you have a lot more to do with causing these shootings than normal American law abiding folks who own guns.
 

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kapler needs to forget about sitting during the anthem and go get an audience with our leaders in the White House and plead with them to do something constructive and comprehensive.

Nah that requires effort. Kapler is only interested in virtue signaling.
 
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What a self absorbed a**hole.!!! Let's do all we can to make sure Gabe "feels better about the direction of our country." Want to feel better about the direction of the country? How about doing something about the direction of your city???? Has he made any statements about the recall of DA Chesa Boudin? This is a guy whose policies have turned one of America's most beautiful cities into a sewer, literally. Show a little concern locally Gabe before fixing the country.

You realize San Francisco isn't even close to one of the most dangerous and crime filled cities in America?

You wouldn't hear it in your media, but you realize Jacksonville, for example, is significantly more dangerous? Jacksonville has 3x the murder rate of NYC. Houston has more shootings this year than Chicago. St. Louis the most dangerous city in America and more dangerous than most cities in the world.

There's a reason why the average home price in San Fran is around 1M. Supply and demand, people want to live there. They don't want to live in the podunk places that are way more dangerous but left out of the media narrative.
 
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