Sixpackers... the flu this has mutated and is probably the worst and most contagious in years. Go get the flu shot. This is awful.
OT: Flu 2.0
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Tested negative for the flu but I'm on my 4th week of some respitory virus crud. I'm about to choke and cough to death. Been to the Dr twice and he just says that nothing will touch this crap and I'm just going to have t wait it out. I've had enough steroids and antibiotics in the past month to kill a horse.
My 3year old got the shot in early October. Caught the flu last week. Just finished tamiflu yesterday. Been throwing up for 3 straight hours today/tonight. Finally asleep as of a few minutes ago.
You and me both. I’m on my third antibiotic in the last 4 weeks. Second round of steroids finish up tomorrow. Nothing has worked and my asthma is not improving. Not a good month for my entire household, as my two sons and wife have all been sick as well.
What the hell is causing all of this?
Sounds what my wife and I had (she's still got some of it). Worst upper respiratory virus I've ever had (that then morphed into a sinus infection). I apologized often and profusely to all my co-workers for the overtime sounds coming from the mucus production factory in my office.
Me and the wife have had upper respiratory crud since Thanksgiving week. Our little dude had it to and 2 rounds of antibiotics did nothing. Then his monitor went off all night one night because his oxygen level was low. Long story short we spent time in batson er and came home with a breathing treatment machine and steroids and he's done breathing treatments every 4 hours for the last 3 days and he's finally getting it beat.
Never said I had the flu. I did state my son caught it and is on the tail end of it. My flu test was negative a few weeks ago. I’ve just got something that respiratory and sinus related. And it’s awful.
I've used albuterol in the nebulizer and it doesn't touch this crap. The only time I quit coughing is when I OD on cough syrup with hydro codon in it and knock myself out. I've lost almost 20 pounds in the past three weeks.
Are there any good sites available that discuss the crud that’s going around? Would love to read up on items like this.
Get a nasal rinse kit and rinse your sinuses a couple of times a day. Don't force the water in or you'll push it into your eustachian tubes and may cause ear infection.
Mucinex is your friend. Loosen it up and get it out. One thing to remember is many times the mucous membranes in your nose become swollen and prevent the flow of excess mucous out of your nostrils. Take ibuprofen to shrink the inflammation and help the flow. My choice of sinus meds are Dayquil/Nyquil gel caps and Mucinex both in generic forms. Oh, and if you can, get the Vicks inhaler that looks like a bullet/tampon. That stuff is underrated when it comes to clearing nasal passages.
As someone already said, the flu "vaccine" is useless this year. Tamiflu sucks the money out of your wallet, but doesn't do much for the flu. It may lessen the duration a few hours, but it does nothing to cure/stop the flu. That is some scary **** when you read studies about it. Causes suicidal thoughts, hallucinations and aggressive behavior. Just Google "Tamiflu Suicide" and read.
Mucinex is your friend. Loosen it up and get it out. One thing to remember is many times the mucous membranes in your nose become swollen and prevent the flow of excess mucous out of your nostrils. Take ibuprofen to shrink the inflammation and help the flow. My choice of sinus meds are Dayquil/Nyquil gel caps and Mucinex both in generic forms. Oh, and if you can, get the Vicks inhaler that looks like a bullet/tampon. That stuff is underrated when it comes to clearing nasal passages.
As someone already said, the flu "vaccine" is useless this year. Tamiflu sucks the money out of your wallet, but doesn't do much for the flu. It may lessen the duration a few hours, but it does nothing to cure/stop the flu. That is some scary **** when you read studies about it. Causes suicidal thoughts, hallucinations and aggressive behavior. Just Google "Tamiflu Suicide" and read.
I basically had this through the whole month of November. Felt like a bucket of turds from the Mon or Tues after the Bama game all the way through about last Thursday or Friday. It was to the point I was getting concerned something was really legitimately wrong with me. The cough would hit once or twice a day hard enough that I was blacking out for a few seconds. Dunno if it was the time or the second round of Biaxin that got it...
This encourages me. I’m having the blackout cough too. Azithromycin 3 weeks ago. Amoxclav last Thursday. Started biaxin tonight. Prednisone finishes tomorrow. I need this **** to finish up ASAP.
I know post count smack is pretty weak, but I'm going to have to see at least 500 posts before I start taking medical advice from a guy.**
What about from a gal who usually lurks, but occasionally jumps in to contribute to the well being of her fellow Bulldogs
?What about from a gal who usually lurks, but occasionally jumps in to contribute to the well being of her fellow Bulldogs
Gonna have to see some proof.
Not sure how to prove it. What post count does one need to attain in order to be deemed credible? I'll start posting random crap so y'all will believe I'm a female Bulldog. Yeah, I've read long enough to know what the comments to that will say. HA!
They took a pint of fluid out of my lower back.
You see this mole? This mole on my neck? You think it's changing color?
You see this mole? This mole on my neck? You think it's changing color?
I'm guessing this information comes from the vaccine manufacturers. Big pharm, gonna big pharm.
This should clear up treatmentTarget groups for therapy●Given the concerning trends of increasing resistance with both the adamantanes and the neuraminidase inhibitors, the risk of promoting antiviral drug resistance should be considered when deciding which patients to treat. Individuals with severe disease (requiring hospitalization or evidence of lower respiratory tract infection) or at high risk for complications should receive antiviral therapy. (See 'Target populations for treatment' above.)
●When indicated, antiviral therapy should be initiated as soon as possible since antiviral therapy is most likely to provide benefit when initiated within the first 48 hours of illness. Treatment should not be delayed while awaiting the results of diagnostic testing, nor should it be withheld in patients with indications for therapy who present >48 hours after the onset of symptoms, particularly among patients requiring hospitalization. Furthermore, patients who have a negative rapid antigen test for influenza but in whom the clinical suspicion for influenza infection is high should be treated with antivirals since the sensitivity of these tests may be low. (See 'Timing of antiviral initiation' above.)
●We recommend antiviral therapy (with zanamivir or oseltamivir) for all individuals with confirmed or suspected influenza virus infection who are severely ill, such as those with lower respiratory tract infection (eg, dyspnea, tachypnea, unexplained oxygen desaturation), and those who are showing signs of rapid clinical deterioration; we recommend treatment for such patients whether they present early in the course of infection (<48 hours after symptom onset) (Grade 1B) or later (Grade 1C). (See 'Indications for treatment' above.)
●We recommend antiviral therapy for outpatients who present within 48 hours of symptom onset with confirmed or suspected influenza infection and who are at increased risk for complications (Grade 1A). We also recommend antiviral therapy for outpatients who present >48 hours after symptom onset with confirmed or suspected influenza infection and who are at increased risk for complications provided that they are not yet improving (Grade 1C). (See 'Indications for treatment' above.)
●We suggest antiviral therapy for patients who present within 48 hours of symptom onset with mild illness and who are not at increased risk for complications (Grade 2C). There is high quality evidence for benefit to the individual patient; however, there is only low quality evidence regarding the magnitude of the risk of promoting resistance, which remains a major concern. Additionally, when supplies are limited, antivirals should be reserved for high-risk patients. (See 'Indications for treatment' above.)
●We recommend that patients with uncomplicated influenza who have had more than 48 hours of influenza signs and symptoms not be treated with antivirals (Grade 1B). (See 'Indications for treatment' above.)
●We suggest treating all pregnant women with suspected or confirmed influenza, even those who present >48 hours after onset of symptom onset provided that they are not yet improving (Grade 2C). (See 'Pregnancy' above and "Influenza and pregnancy", section on 'Treatment'.)
Choice of antiviral agent
●Clinicians should review local or state influenza surveillance data during influenza season to determine which types of influenza (A or B) and subtypes of influenza A (H1N1 or H3N2) are circulating, as well as antiviral resistance patterns. (See 'Choice of antiviral drug' above and 'Influenza activity' above.)
●A neuraminidase inhibitor (zanamivir or oseltamivir) is the recommended antiviral agent for the treatment of patients with influenza infection (table 2). Patients who cannot receive zanamivir or oseltamivir (eg, those who cannot tolerate inhaled or enteral agents) should receive intravenous (IV) peramivir. (See 'Choice of antiviral drug' above.)
●The recommended dose of zanamivir is 10 mg (two inhalations) twice daily; the recommended dose of oseltamivir is 75 mg orally twice daily; the recommended dose of peramivir is 600 mg IV as a single dose. Dosing of oseltamivir and peramivir must be modified in the setting of renal insufficiency. The recommended duration of therapy for zanamivir or oseltamivir is five days. (See 'Choice of antiviral drug' above.)
●Because of the high rates of influenza isolates resistant to adamantanes in the United States and in many other countries, amantadine and rimantadine are not recommended for the treatment of influenza. (See 'Choice of antiviral drug' above.)
Also, Take the FLU SHOT unless contraindicated.
As far as side effects to tamiflu- those effects are less than 1%
Adverse Reactions
>10%:Central nervous system: Headache (adolescents and adults: 2% to 17%)Gastrointestinal: Vomiting (2% to 16%)1% to 10%:Central nervous system: Pain (adolescents and adults: 4%)Gastrointestinal: Nausea (adolescents and adults: 8% to 10%)<1%, postmarketing, and/or case reports: Abnormal behavior, abnormal hepatic function tests, accidental injury, agitation, anaphylactoid reaction, anaphylaxis, anxiety, cardiac arrhythmia, confusion, delirium, delusions, dermatitis, eczema, erythema multiforme, exacerbation of diabetes mellitus, facial edema, gastrointestinal hemorrhage, hallucination, hemorrhagic colitis, hepatitis, hypersensitivity reaction, hypothermia, impaired consciousness, nightmares, seizure, skin rash, Stevens-Johnson syndrome, swollen tongue, toxic epidermal necrolysis, urticaria
Another target was added to the trivalent vaccine making it quadvalent (targeting H1N1 along with H3N2 ant the other usual suspects), and we are finally moving away from egg grown vaccine strains toward cell culture based vaccine (which should help the vaccine appear more like the wild type strains infecting being passed around), but it’s still an educated guess each year. The predictive modeling for which recombined versions of the virus are showing up in the east and make it west are really only 60% protective each year at the best. That said, getting the vaccine should cause at least some protective immunity against flu in general, even if not completely effective.
I guess the best news is I have been seeing data for clinical studies on universal vaccines that seem promising.
All that said, while not very effective, this vaccine gives you a chance of avoiding flu or at least lessening the pathogenicity if you do contract. So everyone should get the vaccine.
I guess the best news is I have been seeing data for clinical studies on universal vaccines that seem promising.
All that said, while not very effective, this vaccine gives you a chance of avoiding flu or at least lessening the pathogenicity if you do contract. So everyone should get the vaccine.
My 2 year old son and I both yacked for a couple days after weeks of the crud. Doctor told us it’s a 24 hour bug. Didn’t explain the flu like symptoms.
A day after getting over the ****, day of my son’s birthday party, rest of the House is hugging the throne- as well as 4 other kids on the street. **** is nasty this year.
A day after getting over the ****, day of my son’s birthday party, rest of the House is hugging the throne- as well as 4 other kids on the street. **** is nasty this year.
Quick primer
Ok remember we are in Flu A season, the worst. Flu B really won't kick in until prob late January or February. We have lots of really cool technology that can pretty much tell you what your bug of choice is, but testing can be expensive.
Too many any times we think "flu" when it's not. It can be helpful to know exactly what we are dealing with. That being said, it's very common for a viral infection to lead into a secondary bacterial infection. I'm personally prone to that due to physical structures of my ear canals and other genetic features.
Bottom line, if you are sicker than stink, ask for a "Biofire" respiratory panel or an equivalent. It might set you back some $$$, but it seriously can also answer some questions.
Ok remember we are in Flu A season, the worst. Flu B really won't kick in until prob late January or February. We have lots of really cool technology that can pretty much tell you what your bug of choice is, but testing can be expensive.
Too many any times we think "flu" when it's not. It can be helpful to know exactly what we are dealing with. That being said, it's very common for a viral infection to lead into a secondary bacterial infection. I'm personally prone to that due to physical structures of my ear canals and other genetic features.
Bottom line, if you are sicker than stink, ask for a "Biofire" respiratory panel or an equivalent. It might set you back some $$$, but it seriously can also answer some questions.
I have almost passed out a couple of times coughing. Lack of oxygen I guess. What is this crap?
I'm really not a conspiracy nutjob, but I have never had a flu shot and I have never had the flu. It has come out recently that the government was less than forthcoming with studies indicating ineffectiveness and danger to the elderly...
https://sharylattkisson.com/2015/07...flu-shots-not-effective-in-elderly-after-all/
Always be skeptical when big, big money is at stake. Every other year is a dangerous mutant new flu strain? Really?
https://sharylattkisson.com/2015/07...flu-shots-not-effective-in-elderly-after-all/
Always be skeptical when big, big money is at stake. Every other year is a dangerous mutant new flu strain? Really?
With a few on here high post count just proves to me they have nothing to say, but really think others need their opinion.
The first year I ever got the vaccine, was also the only time in my life, I’ve ever had the flu.
The next year, got the shot, and my arm went numb. Scared me enough to go to the ER. The docs wouldn’t say I had an adverse reaction..(shocking).
Unfortunately without a Dr.s excuse, I’m pretty much forced to get the vaccine for work.
Fortunately, I’ve figured out how not to....no im not telling.
The next year, got the shot, and my arm went numb. Scared me enough to go to the ER. The docs wouldn’t say I had an adverse reaction..(shocking).
Unfortunately without a Dr.s excuse, I’m pretty much forced to get the vaccine for work.
Fortunately, I’ve figured out how not to....no im not telling.
I have to rewatch it every year. It's just a classic. I forget how damn funny it is sometimes. (Christmas Vacation to save research for some)
Flu shots will not guarentee you don’t get the flu. They just lesson the symptoms if you do. We have an ICU full of flu/pneumonia patients on ventilators. The best way to keep from getting it is stay away from anyone you suspect has it. It is reaching epidemic level in the delta counties and southwest MS. We have also kind of unscientifically come to the conclusion that people contract it at WalMart as that is where most of society comes into contact with one another in any geographical area. Rich/poor/Black/white. Everyone goes to Wal Mart. Wipe down buggy handles with sanitizing wipes they usually have there at the entrance. Just about every hospital in central MS is or is about to go on diversion because there just isn’t any place to put them.
I don't hate to tell you, your opinion means little to me. See my comment on post count.
How many of those people on vents had the flu shot?
oh, and I’ve gone to Walmart about 4 times in the last 5 years. Three of those the last 3 months.
oh, and I’ve gone to Walmart about 4 times in the last 5 years. Three of those the last 3 months.
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