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Also in this day and age of dog parks, one of the fastest-growing things in municipal recreation last decade, it's not as though it's difficult to find a (free) place for dogs to exercise off-leash.

I have about three within 15 minutes, and it looks like I would have had about the same anywhere I ever lived in NJ, including near RU.
sorry but just say no to dog parks too many issues with aggressive dogs and disease spreading. Find a friend who has a fenced in yard and have a play date or walk your dog . We like Manasquan reservoir
 

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sorry but just say no to dog parks too many issues with aggressive dogs and disease spreading. Find a friend who has a fenced in yard and have a play date or walk your dog . We like Manasquan reservoir

No reason to be sorry. Have had nothing but great experiences with dog parks up and down the state. Not a single issue with aggressive dogs or disease.

Only go once in a while, mostly before/during long car trips. Works out great. I avoid the one closest to my house because it's built in a basin and that's just gross for a busy dog park.


I mostly walk her. Have access to hundreds of miles of trail from my backyard and sidewalks/wide shoulders for miles. Dog park mixes it up. See more aggressive dogs on walks, tbh, though still rare.
 

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No reason to be sorry. Have had nothing but great experiences with dog parks up and down the state. Not a single issue with aggressive dogs or disease.

Only go once in a while, mostly before/during long car trips. Works out great. I avoid the one closest to my house because it's built in a basin and that's just gross for a busy dog park.


I mostly walk her. Have access to hundreds of miles of trail from my backyard and sidewalks/wide shoulders for miles. Dog park mixes it up. See more aggressive dogs on walks, tbh, though still rare.
Our problem with a dog park is that we knew our GS was not dog friendly- Alpha Male and only dogs he liked happened to be the 2 boxers we also had and he was the gentlest sole ever with them. I would hope no owner would bring an aggressive dog to a dog park but we all know- there are very selfish people out there.
But- this is also the issue with those that feel it is ok to allow their dogs to run free- If I am walking my dog on a lease and you are doing the same- I can just let you know to stay on the other side of the street and he behaves and I can master his aggression- if your dog is roaming free and approaches mine- there will be a problem and since he is a GS- everyone would blame him.
Good thing I had a huge fenced yard!

Walking on trails and in parks is so much better than dog parks- also agree with poster that in dog parks- you do have to worry about disease, parasites, distemper etc
Other people just do not care for their dogs like we may care for ours.
 

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My daughter’s father used to leave his Boxer/something while he was in the office. The dog hated being left alone and literally started eating holes in the living room wall. He tried to give her away, but I intervened and she ended up
going to a very expensive boot camp. She learned to walk in a pack and build her confidence, she was trained to be in a crate if he went to the office etc.
It was very hardcore training. Even walking her was a structured task.
They followed through with the trainers protocol for maybe a month.
Luckily her bad habits improved and she is now a good girl. Except when she escapes and the police bring her back.
Here she is with a silly toy I got her. (The claws are long here. She was due for a trim)


I did not crate my dog. She might have liked it(see below)
I had a octagon playpen for a baby that she stayed in while I worked. Lol
I can leave her 11 hours. I don’t like to do that, but she doesn’t require the same exercise the dog above does.
My next dog will be bigger. This is like having a cat that barks.
The weirdo voluntarily sleeps in a $5 laundry basket.
I just adore her.

Another option- You can hire someone to come walk the dog while you’re at work or whatever.
Even one walk to break up the time inside should be ok.
My cousin has 3 little dogs. She has this cool doggie door system. The dogs wear a collar with a sensor that slides opens the door for them. This way they can go do their thing outside whenever they please.
I was going to say with the boxer/something lol I didn't see the something at first but saw from the snout that it wasnt pure- but the separation anxiety 100% comes from the boxer lol

Your dog in a basket- too cute...Funny story about the playpen for us- we got our new boxer puppy 4 years ago at 6 weeks- we bought a doggie playpen- 3 ft high, maybe 10ft diameter for her when we where home but maybe working and not able to pay attention. Worked great for 2 weeks and then she would all of a sudden start getting caught running around the basement and into our office- My wife kept blaming me for not shutting the playpen door correctly. (Of course)- until, one day- she didn't see us and we caught and filmed her little 8 week old self climbing that 3 ft playpen on her way to freedom. Wish I was savvy enough to post the video- it was frustration but when you catch it- it reminds you why you love these little family members so much.
 
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Our problem with a dog park is that we knew our GS was not dog friendly- Alpha Male and only dogs he liked happened to be the 2 boxers we also had and he was the gentlest sole ever with them. I would hope no owner would bring an aggressive dog to a dog park but we all know- there are very selfish people out there.
But- this is also the issue with those that feel it is ok to allow their dogs to run free- If I am walking my dog on a lease and you are doing the same- I can just let you know to stay on the other side of the street and he behaves and I can master his aggression- if your dog is roaming free and approaches mine- there will be a problem and since he is a GS- everyone would blame him.
Good thing I had a huge fenced yard!

Walking on trails and in parks is so much better than dog parks- also agree with poster that in dog parks- you do have to worry about disease, parasites, distemper etc
Other people just do not care for their dogs like we may care for ours.

Neighbor had that problem. Little dog from a couple doors down wandered over and his leashed Akita sent it to the hospital. Think he might have given them some money but can't recall for sure - nicer than me, lol.
 

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Neighbor had that problem. Little dog from a couple doors down wandered over and his leashed Akita sent it to the hospital. Think he might have given them some money but can't recall for sure - nicer than me, lol.
we ran into that too- neighbor and small dog came onto our property and Zeus didn't like it. Zeus went after his dog while on our property and guy picked it up and jumped onto the road. his dog got so scared that it scratched him as he picked it up. Ours never got near him.
He ended up calling police and animal control and claimed our dog attacked and bit him while he was just walking his dog on the road-we had to quarantine our dog but the responding officer was also canine- he looked at this guy's arm with the scratch- and asked if he was sure the 115lb German Shepherd really bit him.

This is why people shouldn't just say it is ok to have their dogs just run around the neighborhood as they please. And I can't believe the one guy thinks it is ok if his dog is doing so and crapping on neighbor's lawns. lol
 
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Thanks for sharing that! What a great story and sorry that you lost Oliver. But you and your wife sure gave him a great life!
wow. Thanks for taking the time to read that. Imagine spending 3-4 years on the streets of Brooklyn, then 4 more in a kennel. We only got him for 5 but he was "my" dog. Truth is I saw his picture in the paper on a Friday afternoon and called and asked to foster him from the Rutgers Tailgate lol.
 

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Forget about January 6th, the closest to civil war I've ever seen is when I lived in Westport, CT and they changed the code for dogs on Compo Beach. The rule was no dogs on the beach from Memorial Day to Labor Day. I lived near the beach and early morning summer weekday dog walking was not enforced. The council changed it to leashes at all times and no dogs on the beach from Memorial Day to Labor Day and all weekends. It literally pitted neighbor against neighbor. The mayor had hoped for state-wide or congressional office, but this splintered her base and destroyed her political career.

PS: Dogs are social animals and 8 hour alone during the day seems like too much. Really too much for their bladder but also hard on their psyche. Consider two dogs or a walker or a two-way doggy cam.
 
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Everything you just said is just lazy selfish BS...
I'm sorry, but I do not want random dogs in my yard....
If you are in your sixties then you have experienced life before leash laws.

Did you have a problem with neighborhood dogs back then? Or was it just something that you lived with and accepted?

I think both arguments have positives and negatives. Not sure why you are so adamant that the other poster is "just lazyy and selfish". Dogs roaming the neighborhood was pretty common back in the 70s and it was not all bad... it was fun to say hello to a neighbors dog as he free-roamed along with the kids. I suppose neighborhoods were quite different then too.. everyone knew everyone... and every dog.

I do disagree about this argument that leash laws caused people to buy bigger / more aggressive breeds. If anything, it seems the tiny dogs are more popular than ever before because people don't want to pick up a big dog's poop or walk them far enough to exercise a big dog. And these dog parks? Just awful with dog poop from lazy owners.. and some pooop could be spreading worms or god knows what else to your dog.. which is true of the off-leash days as well.
 

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we ran into that too- neighbor and small dog came onto our property and Zeus didn't like it. Zeus went after his dog while on our property and guy picked it up and jumped onto the road. his dog got so scared that it scratched him as he picked it up. Ours never got near him.
He ended up calling police and animal control and claimed our dog attacked and bit him while he was just walking his dog on the road-we had to quarantine our dog but the responding officer was also canine- he looked at this guy's arm with the scratch- and asked if he was sure the 115lb German Shepherd really bit him.

This is why people shouldn't just say it is ok to have their dogs just run around the neighborhood as they please. And I can't believe the one guy thinks it is ok if his dog is doing so and crapping on neighbor's lawns. lol

nice story.

don't believe it for a second.

i notice those opposed to small and medium non aggressive breeds being able to run as they were allowed to for a couple hundred yrs, and not having to be walked every time they have to go, seem to all be large/aggressive dog owners who believe in, "if i have to fence in or walk my big aggressive dog every time it has to go, then everyone should have to".

talk about selfish and self centered.

stop dragging small/medium dog owners into your self imposed dog walking every time they have to go hell.

and jailing small and medium non aggressive breeds their whole life that don't need so, just because big aggressive breeds need to be.
 

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I’m in my mid 50s and grew up in a different region from those on this board, but we didn’t have dogs freely roaming all around in the 70s, and the Pittsburgh area isn’t exactly on the cutting edge of things.

As for the idea of dogs being allowed to roam free, I am against it for multiple reasons, some major ones:
  • Other people should not have to clean up their yard if someone else’s dog messes in it.
  • Some people are just afraid of dogs and should not be put in the position of potentially having a loose dog charging at them.
  • There are more vehicles on the road so more danger to loose dogs. If anyone thinks it is up to a dog to learn, a driver should not have to experience injuring (or worse) a loose dog.
  • My experience is loose smaller dogs are more annoying with the nipping at my heels or aggressive barking/growling while just beyond the reach of my leashed dog.
I’m also not a fan of the electric fences, as they do not physically stop a dog from exiting a yard. Whether owner error or whatever, I know of 3 houses in my neighborhood where this has occurred.
 

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nice story.

don't believe it for a second.

i notice those opposed to small and medium non aggressive breeds being able to run as they were allowed to for a couple hundred yrs, and not having to be walked every time they have to go, seem to all be large/aggressive dog owners who believe in, "if i have to fence in or walk my big aggressive dog every time it has to go, then everyone should have to".

talk about selfish and self centered.

stop dragging small/medium dog owners into your self imposed dog walking every time they have to go hell.

and jailing small and medium non aggressive breeds their whole life that don't need so, just because big aggressive breeds need to be.
What the heck are you blatting off about. If you dog doesnt go onto my property, we have no issues.
Funny thing is- it always seems to be the little guys that like to start the barking...And BTW- I love all dogs.
But to feel you have a small dog so it has every right to roam free- that is actually being selfish.
 
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I’m in my mid 50s and grew up in a different region from those on this board, but we didn’t have dogs freely roaming all around in the 70s, and the Pittsburgh area isn’t exactly on the cutting edge of things.

As for the idea of dogs being allowed to roam free, I am against it for multiple reasons, some major ones:
  • Other people should not have to clean up their yard if someone else’s dog messes in it.
  • Some people are just afraid of dogs and should not be put in the position of potentially having a loose dog charging at them.
  • There are more vehicles on the road so more danger to loose dogs. If anyone thinks it is up to a dog to learn, a driver should not have to experience injuring (or worse) a loose dog.
  • My experience is loose smaller dogs are more annoying with the nipping at my heels or aggressive barking/growling while just beyond the reach of my leashed dog.
I’m also not a fan of the electric fences, as they do not physically stop a dog from exiting a yard. Whether owner error or whatever, I know of 3 houses in my neighborhood where this has occurred.
Agree with everything, including electric fences. And my experience- dogs usually get past them by human error.

And, it doesn't stop other dogs or people from getting on your property. And many dogs- if they just want to run through it- they will, even if you have the extended barrier.

And for the love of my own dogs- your point about cars and drivers- That is my biggest concern.

Back when I was a kid- we always had mult dogs- beagles, Irish Setters, never had a fence or kept them inside. But lived in a great neighborhood with a lot of woods and no one was driving over 20 on our streets
 

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You might want to focus on shelters rather than rescue groups. There must be exceptions, but my experience with dog rescue places was that they are super hesitant about giving dogs to people who don't already have dogs. Be ready to fill out long applications, send pictures of your home, count how many stairs you have, explain how you will take care of the dog while you are at work, figure out how much it will cost to own a dog, who your vet will be, have references, show pictures of your fenced in back yard and more. I wish I as kidding.
Yep Rescues do that so the dog does not boomerang back to the rescue and people asking to get their money back. Dog recuse is hard on the volunteers. The process is to prevent people who have a retail mentality about the adoption of a dog.

The day of transport starts at 12 midnight the day of the trasnport typically thier are 50 people involved starting in Kentucky or N. Carolina. The dogs are all in a big van or truck and maybe 30 dogs per vehicle. Have to have multiple people and multiple stops along the way dropping off dogs at various spots along the way Usually the transport ends in upstate NY or Ct. We call it Doggie Freedom ride or Doggie underground railroad. Most of the folks involved are all volunteers.

People need to be prepared for a 10-15 year commitment and people lie on thier applications to try and get a dog and then 4 months later they come back saying thier landlord found out and they want to return the dog.

At that point its almost impossible to adopt out the dog and the recuse would get stuck with that dog. That is why you get all the questions up front.

Even with that inevitably someone wants to turn in the dog and they lose their adoption fee to the rescue.

So yeah rescues ask a lot of questions and want proof if you rent that you can have a dog and that you took care of your previous dog etc....Its all about making sure the life you are giving to a stranger is taken care of and loved.
 

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Yep Rescues do that so the dog does not boomerang back to the rescue and people asking to get their money back. Dog recuse is hard on the volunteers. The process is to prevent people who have a retail mentality about the adoption of a dog.

The day of transport starts at 12 midnight the day of the trasnport typically thier are 50 people involved starting in Kentucky or N. Carolina. The dogs are all in a big van or truck and maybe 30 dogs per vehicle. Have to have multiple people and multiple stops along the way dropping off dogs at various spots along the way Usually the transport ends in upstate NY or Ct. We call it Doggie Freedom ride or Doggie underground railroad. Most of the folks involved are all volunteers.

People need to be prepared for a 10-15 year commitment and people lie on thier applications to try and get a dog and then 4 months later they come back saying thier landlord found out and they want to return the dog.

At that point its almost impossible to adopt out the dog and the recuse would get stuck with that dog. That is why you get all the questions up front.

Even with that inevitably someone wants to turn in the dog and they lose their adoption fee to the rescue.

So yeah rescues ask a lot of questions and want proof if you rent that you can have a dog and that you took care of your previous dog etc....Its all about making sure the life you are giving to a stranger is taken care of and loved.
Thank you for sharing. I hope that more people that decide on a getting a “rescue” on a whim- understood this.
it really is about the dog. If you don’t understand the care needed and commitment- get a doll.
 

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Yep Rescues do that so the dog does not boomerang back to the rescue and people asking to get their money back. Dog recuse is hard on the volunteers. The process is to prevent people who have a retail mentality about the adoption of a dog.

The day of transport starts at 12 midnight the day of the trasnport typically thier are 50 people involved starting in Kentucky or N. Carolina. The dogs are all in a big van or truck and maybe 30 dogs per vehicle. Have to have multiple people and multiple stops along the way dropping off dogs at various spots along the way Usually the transport ends in upstate NY or Ct. We call it Doggie Freedom ride or Doggie underground railroad. Most of the folks involved are all volunteers.

People need to be prepared for a 10-15 year commitment and people lie on thier applications to try and get a dog and then 4 months later they come back saying thier landlord found out and they want to return the dog.

At that point its almost impossible to adopt out the dog and the recuse would get stuck with that dog. That is why you get all the questions up front.

Even with that inevitably someone wants to turn in the dog and they lose their adoption fee to the rescue.

So yeah rescues ask a lot of questions and want proof if you rent that you can have a dog and that you took care of your previous dog etc....Its all about making sure the life you are giving to a stranger is taken care of and loved.

what's the difference between "rescue" dogs, and other dogs at shelters.

do "rescues" tend to be certain breeds?

what percent of rescue dogs are getting adopted?

and why would a dog getting brought back after 4 months affect it's getting adopted again, absent something about the dog being the reason for the return?
 

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what's the difference between "rescue" dogs, and other dogs at shelters.

what percent of rescue dogs are getting adopted?

and why would a dog getting brought back after 4 months affect it's getting adopted again, absent something about the dog being the reason for the return?
Rescue is usually a dog that has already been through trauma. Not sure why it may be harder to re- rescue but why put anyone or animal through that?
Dogs form a love must faster than humans do-if you are not ready to be there for them, just don’t do it
 

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What the heck are you blatting off about. If you dog doesnt go onto my property, we have no issues.
Funny thing is- it always seems to be the little guys that like to start the barking...And BTW- I love all dogs.
But to feel you have a small dog so it has every right to roam free- that is actually being selfish.

you're making zero sense.

i never said anything about dogs going onto your property, other than if your yard is fenced and your dogs are big, other dogs aren't going onto it.

as to a small or medium non aggressive breed having more freedom to roam than a large or aggressive breed, that only makes common sense.

having a small/medium non aggressive breed shouldn't be a 2nd job just because a large or aggressive breeds needs to be.

the idea a dachshund or beagle, and their owners, should have the same restrictions as a German Shepard or Pit Bull mix or Rot, and their owners, is ridiculous.

and totally sentences the smaller dog to a life in prison, and their owner to a 2nd job 365 days a yr commitment, when it isn't necessary.

like i said, i lived through both eras and both sets of rules.

when smaller non aggressive breeds didn't have to walked every time they had to go, and only the large or aggressive breeds did, that worked much better for both smaller dog and smaller dog owner, and large dogs and their owners were no worse off than they now are.

and like i said, i've lived both eras.

when smaller non aggressive breeds didn't have to be walked every time they had to go, people generally stayed with smaller non aggressive dogs.

those with both, generally fenced the big dog, and just let the little dog out when it had to go.

Pits and large breeds only became more prevalent in towns, once all dogs had to be leashed, and the less burdensome option was eliminated.

unless you had a fenced in yrd, almost no one had large or aggressive breeds then, just due to the 100 times greater commitment needed, and the fact that owners hated to see their pet imprisoned their whole life, when other dogs didn't need be, and they could actually have a life outside a dog park.
 
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Maybe you just need to move on from 1973?

Full-time job ...what are you talking about? If it's that much trouble, don't get a dog. Walking or playing with a dog is great exercise, which most people could use, and generally just all-around enjoyable. If it's not, no one's forcing you to own a dog.

In your freeroaming example, dogs will 100 percent be shitting all other private and public property. Why should anyone, particularly all those who don't own a dog or don't let it roam, be responsible for cleaning up your dog sht? And if you're suggesting it stays on your property ...it shouldn't even be an issue. Who's bothering you about that? Unless you've created a health violation with the massive pile of excrement you refuse to clean.

TL:DR - If you're going to continue to troll our board just to fabricate arguments in places they don't exist, could you start sucking a little less at it? I've never numbed brain cells with more asinine drivel.
 

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can you be more precise.

and are "rescues" generally more certain breeds?
We had a rescuer that was pure breed boxer. Her owner took a black plastic garbage bad and threw her and her siblings into a lake, she was the only one to survive. Others can come from these hoarder homes or people arrested for animal abuse, etc.
There can be all sorts of reasons but in most cases or very many- they may have been abused or neglected.
 

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Maybe you just need to move on from 1973?

Full-time job ...what are you talking about? If it's that much trouble, don't get a dog. Walking or playing with a dog is great exercise, which most people could use, and generally just all-around enjoyable. If it's not, no one's forcing you to own a dog.

In your freeroaming example, dogs will 100 percent be shitting all other private and public property. Why should anyone, particularly all those who don't own a dog or don't let it roam, be responsible for cleaning up your dog sht? And if you're suggesting it stays on your property ...it shouldn't even be an issue. Who's bothering you about that? Unless you've created a health violation with the massive pile of excrement you refuse to clean.

TL:DR - If you're going to continue to troll our board just to fabricate arguments in places they don't exist, could you start sucking a little less at it? I've never numbed brain cells with more asinine drivel.
I was going to respond but I think you nailed it.
this person just seems very lazy, self centered and is not going to change their mind.
His yard is covered in crap and his neighbors are all pissed at him and he would be the first to sue if something happened to his free roaming dog.
And for me- we have large dogs and fenced property put in place for them. And they do not freely **** in our yard either. They have a spot in the mulch we trained them to go to.
on days we are not outside, yes, they have a time we let them out and still go with them to pick it up as they are done.
They run, play, don’t bother anyone- people that come over, play with them, have fun with them, etc.
so, why should I find random crap on the parts of my lawn that is not fenced?
 
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A large percent of rescues have a large percentage of pitbull/Amercan Stratfordshire Terrier. It can be hard to see these features in a pup. If it at all possible, get a look at the mother. Best dog I ever had was a german shepherd mix "rescued" from a shelter when he was about two. (They said under 1 but I guess you have to expect a little lying in advertising.) A wire haired terrier was easily the smartest dog I ever had and she would go after ground hogs and raccoons twice her size. Currently have a yellow lab at my feet. Very lovable but needs a lot of exercise. Consider size, how the breed fits with children and other pets, exercise and genetic conditions (don't get a french bulldog and know that larger breeds can get hip dysplasia as early as 7 yo). My experience is that medium size dogs bark more than bigger dogs and for longer barking jags - something your neighbors might want you to consider.
Do a rescue .. you’ll save a life.

Our second dog is either a Staffordshire or Pit mix - his family gave up on him after a year (apparently new baby). The shelter we went to was pretty open about everything we needed to know and had detailed notes.

I didn’t want a second dog, but my wife showed me something on Facebook about this dog slated to be destroyed the next day and I’m a sucker

I know these dogs have bad reps, but our guy is literally the sweetest dog you could ever imagine. he loves to cuddle and licks the heck out of me every morning. He is also incredibly sweet with our other rescue (a Shepherd mix).
The only time he exhibits aggression is if someone enters the house , so we introduce him to people on the lawn and problem solved.

i believe that this dog knows we saved his life - he was the saddest looking creature you have ever seen when we picked him up (apparently not one person had some to see him since his family abandoned him) and just gives us so much love and excitement whenever he is


Something worth considering is to do a foster situation first - just to make sure the dog will be a good fit for your family.
 

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Rescue is usually a dog that has already been through trauma. Not sure why it may be harder to re- rescue but why put anyone or animal through that?
Dogs form a love must faster than humans do-if you are not ready to be there for them, just don’t do it
This is from the place I adopted my two lovable terrors who love their walks and playtime :

"This group of dedicated volunteers founded by people wanting to make a difference in the lives of companion animals in Maricopa County. For the dogs in our care, our mission has remained to give a second chance to those who have been abused, abandoned, and forgotten. Our focus has remained to help those who were considered less adoptable, hard to place, overlooked, and truly in need of a second chance in life. We believe every life is a life worth saving and that no animal is a lost cause. Each animal we take into our care is a deserving life needing love and companionship of a family. We work hard with each and every dog providing thorough medical care, training, and socializing to get each dog ready for a loving and devoted home".

This place makes sure the dog's owner will make the commitment to properly care for
the dog(s) they adopt .
They also check out during the (probationary time) between dropping dog off to potential adopter and the time they allow the person to adopt their Browser how the dog is getting along in their new home.
I had stated the time between getting dog from this rescue shelter and allowed to adopt was 2 weeks, the more I think of it, the more I believe its a month
Also if owner has any problem come up taking care of Fido , this place works with them to try and fix problem.
If owner needs to go in hospital , this shelter will take pup back and take care of it until owner is ready to care for dog again.
These people are dedicated to helping the dogs they rescue live good lives and help those who adopt the dogs in their care be able to care for their dogs properly.
 
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can you be more precise.

and are "rescues" generally more certain breeds?
I believe they are. Certain breeds require a lot more work, for example.

We rescued our dog from NYC. ..he is part pit or staffordshire. Wonderful dog, but requires a decent amount of walking and is poorly suited to apartment living.

idiots get these dogs and disregard these facts, then realize they made a mistake and give them to a shelter

in addition, there are many prohibitions against pits/staffordshires in NYC apartments so the pool of potential owners is lower , so that increases the number

finally, there is the reputation of these breeds, which scares people away. I have only had the one, but I’ll put him up against any dog out there if you want to compare temperament- he is sweet to every person and every dog.
 

yesrutgers01

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I believe they are. Certain breeds require a lot more work, for example.

We rescued our dog from NYC. ..he is part pit or staffordshire. Wonderful dog, but requires a decent amount of walking and is poorly suited to apartment living.

idiots get these dogs and disregard these facts, then realize they made a mistake and give them to a shelter

in addition, there are many prohibitions against pits/staffordshires in NYC apartments so the pool of potential owners is lower , so that increases the number

finally, there is the reputation of these breeds, which scares people away. I have only had the one, but I’ll put him up against any dog out there if you want to compare temperament- he is sweet to every person and every dog.
We run into that with our German Shepherd as well. So many people just assume they are aggressive animals.
yes, can a big powerful dog be dangerous, of course they can.
but more often, with a loving family, they are big babies.
 

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We run into that with our German Shepherd as well. So many people just assume they are aggressive animals.
yes, can a big powerful dog be dangerous, of course they can.
but more often, with a loving family, they are big babies.
Our other dog is mostly Shepherd- is friends with literally every dog in the neighborhood - huge sweetie also..
 

yesrutgers01

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Our other dog is mostly Shepherd- is friends with literally every dog in the neighborhood - huge sweetie also..
Our guy was not dog friendly except for his two “boxer” sisters who loved to pick on him.
unfortunately- this was something from his earlier training. It was never a real issue but we would go out of our way to accommodate others.
but when it came to people- he was the type that made people that were afraid of even little dogs want a GS when they left. He loved kissing and just following you around.
He was also so protective of everyone. If we had people over at our pool and someone just jumped in- he would just jump in right after them because he thought they were in trouble. And he hated the pool lol
 

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what's the difference between "rescue" dogs, and other dogs at shelters.

do "rescues" tend to be certain breeds?

what percent of rescue dogs are getting adopted?

and why would a dog getting brought back after 4 months affect it's getting adopted again, absent something about the dog being the reason for the return?
Rescue Groups get dogs mostly from Southern states and have foster families that take the dogs in until they find a forever home. The foster family integrates the rescue dog or puppy into thier home like its their own dog. Almost every oe of my foster dog left my home house trained and socialized with other dogs.

Shelters generally get their dogs from people dropping off/ surrendering their dogs to a local shelter. These dogs stay in a cage (sometimes volunteers take them out for exercise) at the shelter until someone comes and adopts them or in some places they are euthanized.

In the rescue I volunteer for almost every dog gets adopted or we hold the dog with a long term foster family. Somtimes if we don't have a foster the dog to a boarding facility on a farm. That is vey expensive but much nicer than a shelter. We never euthanize any of our dogs. If you adopt a dog from us with a pre-exisiting condition we pay for the care for the dog. My first foster had a heart murmur that was discovered when we tried to have him neutered. When the puppy named Polar Bear was adopted we paid for a Vet cardiologist care for the puppy.

Most people want a puppy. Once a dog gets adopted and returned after its out of being a puppy people will just wait for a puppy . Sometimes its not 4 months its 6 months or a year. Sometimes (LOL most times) this type of adopter has not trained the dog so that is an issue as well.
 
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