OT: Chiropractors marketing

Dean Pope

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I'm not a fan of chiropractors and their methods although others swear by them. My wife started seeing one regarding a recent injury. She saw improvement and was feeling better. It may have been due to her trip to the chiropractor or due to other things she tried including rest from her normal workouts. What gets me upset is that a few weeks later, my wife received a "We've been missing you" e-mail asking her where she's been. Long story short, she's back there today and more money is headed their way.

What's the deal with chiropractors these days? Is the only thing they are shooting for is temporary progress and marketing for patient retention? Shouldn't the goal be to provide a permanent fix and leave the patient alone? Or am I off base on this? Please advise!
 
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Baxter48_rivals204143

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Sounds to me it’s a money grab, I’ve been going to a chiropractor for 30+ years. The first one I went to was in Concordia ks, he told me after my adjustment don’t come back for at least 6 months.you need to let you adjustments fit back into where it’s supposed to be. I’ve also had acupuncture. Which I’ll have it done again. Looks to me that this place is more of a scam than a real chiropractor. Jmo
 

kerpal_68

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They are a business they will do whatever they can to suck more money out of you and your insurance. I had a problem with a dentist. I neglected going for a while out of high school and went to one for the first time I wasn't used to. He had just opened up a shiny new clinic. He told me I had like 8 cavities. I thought something was weird so I went for a second opinion at the place my family has been going for ever and I had 1.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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Sounds to me it’s a money grab, I’ve been going to a chiropractor for 30+ years. The first one I went to was in Concordia ks, he told me after my adjustment don’t come back for at least 6 months.you need to let you adjustments fit back into where it’s supposed to be. I’ve also had acupuncture. Which I’ll have it done again. Looks to me that this place is more of a scam than a real chiropractor. Jmo
Blackwood??
 

lightningjack

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I've gone to a couple different Chiropractors off & on for 9 years. I got nothing but good things to say about the Chiropractors I've seen. This is pretty normal marketing/ business strategy for them, come in every 1-3 months to stay aligned, tuned up, etc. When I did go every month, I will say I felt better in general but it was getting pricey. I only go back to them at this point if something is tweaked or screwed up.

They're certainly looking to keep her as a client long term I would imagine. I don't think it's bad thing (just bad for the wallet) I know a few people who have gone to the same guy for 15-20 years and swear by it. If she thinks it works for her then more power to her.

I take a couple basic vitamins everyday 5 bucks a month (Doctor recommended) My sister takes a **** ton of supplements every month like $150-$200 bucks worth for what I don't know, but she thinks they help a lot. But if she thinks it works for her then more power to her, is my point.
 

DudznSudz

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Chiropractors ARE quacks and their tactics are snake-oil salesman-esque.

I would say this: Getting cracked does FEEL good. Also, the one and only thing chiropractic care has been shown to POSSIBLY alleviate is lower back pain.

Basically, they are as effective as a massage, if even that. I would maybe go once or twice a year if I felt like something was super off, but otherwise, I avoid them, because they are not doctors, they market in slimy ways, and they can actually hurt you if they mess up.
 

little a

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I'm not a fan of chiropractors and their methods although others swear by them. My wife started seeing one regarding a recent injury. She saw improvement and was feeling better. It may have been due to her trip to the chiropractor or due to other things she tried including rest from her normal workouts. What gets me upset is that a few weeks later, my wife received a "We've been missing you" e-mail asking her where she's been. Long story short, she's back there today and more money is headed their way.

What's the deal with chiropractors these days? Is the only thing they are shooting for is temporary progress and marketing for patient retention? Shouldn't the goal be to provide a permanent fix and leave the patient alone? Or am I off base on this? Please advise!

Good and bad in EVERY profession.
You tell me your profession and I guarantee someone has had a negative experience.
Call/ ask around for a professional that just wants to help your wife quickly.
 

meo1960

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I'm not a fan of chiropractors and their methods although others swear by them. My wife started seeing one regarding a recent injury. She saw improvement and was feeling better. It may have been due to her trip to the chiropractor or due to other things she tried including rest from her normal workouts. What gets me upset is that a few weeks later, my wife received a "We've been missing you" e-mail asking her where she's been. Long story short, she's back there today and more money is headed their way.

What's the deal with chiropractors these days? Is the only thing they are shooting for is temporary progress and marketing for patient retention? Shouldn't the goal be to provide a permanent fix and leave the patient alone? Or am I off base on this? Please advise!

You could say the same about the medical community who
-1) push pills which only treat symptoms instead of addressing the underlying issue.
-2) provide chemo therapy which destroys the immune system, instead of addressing the underlying issue, which caused cancer to develop.
-3) remove things from the body(surgery), which also doesn't address why those things needed removed in the first place.

When is the last time you heard any medical doctor implicate diet or toxicity in any disease? I was told by a medical doctor I could eat anything I wanted and it had nothing to do with illness?

fyi:I was told I had 2 years to live.........................25 years ago. They could not diagnose what I had. I had been to 15 different doctors culminating with Mayo Clinic in Rochester.

I had a doctor tell me I was the most "stubborn" patient he ever had.
To this day, I wear that comment ...."as a badge of honor". Studies have shown that those who participate in their wellness have better outcomes than those who blindly follow a physicians advice.

The body is intelligent and self regulating. Medications alter this regulation. Is your blood-pressure high? Well, you can take a pill, OR, you can try to determine why the BP is high and make changes to address it. Most people would rather take a pill instead of changing their diet. Thats the main difference I see between doctors and Chiropractors.

Now, as in any profession, there are competent and incompetent. In either case, educate yourself so you can participate in your own wellness.

That's only a partial opinion on the subject.
 
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I have nothing but good to say about Chiropratic. Way better alternative to pain pills, muscle relaxers, and surgery.

Many of our past stars have advocated chiropractic. Roger Craig comes to mind, and there are others as well.

Thirty years of succesful treatments with them. To call them all quacks, and or snake oil salesmen, is both mean spirited, and ignorant.
 

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I have had some bad chiropractors and some good ones. I mostly only go to massage therapists now. Finding a good massage therapist can be difficult, but it's worth it.

Most people think going for a massage is some nice feeling therapeutic type thing when if you're really going for back issues, it's more like an hour of pain endurance. Usually by the next day, everything starts feeling great again.

I see this old Chinese woman, and I'm pretty amazed how I feel for a couple of weeks after an hour of her work.
Where?
 

TruHusker

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Count me as a believer in them in general. I have neck problems from playing football when we were taught to use the crown of our helmets back in the dark ages. During the school year when I am at my desk too much I get terrible headaches. I can feel them coming on. I call my chiropractor doc and he gets me in, adjusts my neck and the headache is gone nearly immediately. Note I call him when I need him.

There are some that just want to keep you coming back. It does take several "adjustments" to get things to stay in place, remember you aren't just moving joints, there is soft tissue attached. Which brings me to this recommendation, pick a doc who also does soft tissue.

I also recommend going to different chiropractors when possible. I like to change off every few months. The reason is each tends to adjust a certain way and find certain problems. A different person will adjust differently and find different problems and fix them.

Had a person I worked with who went to Cleveland in KC and another friend whose son went to Dallas. Both do some amazing things for people, the one that went to Dallas was doing most of the work for U of Wyoming. I think most would be surprised at the level of learning these people are .
put through.

Lastly, one of best I ever went to was in Hays, KS, a little bitty gal but man she would twist me around and knew what she was doing.
 

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I'm not a fan of chiropractors and their methods although others swear by them. My wife started seeing one regarding a recent injury. She saw improvement and was feeling better. It may have been due to her trip to the chiropractor or due to other things she tried including rest from her normal workouts. What gets me upset is that a few weeks later, my wife received a "We've been missing you" e-mail asking her where she's been. Long story short, she's back there today and more money is headed their way.

What's the deal with chiropractors these days? Is the only thing they are shooting for is temporary progress and marketing for patient retention? Shouldn't the goal be to provide a permanent fix and leave the patient alone? Or am I off base on this? Please advise!
"These days"??? They've always been that way. Now they have methods of easy access to you so the suggestive sales are more common. Crack, pop "see you later"
 

DudznSudz

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I am glad so many of you have had positive experiences with chiropractors; if it makes you feel better and all of that, great!

Here's where they are different from doctors: Their stuff is not peer-reviewed. They don't do studies and they don't have proof that what they are doing does anything other than crack you and make you feel some relief temporarily from certain kinds of pain, specifically lower back pain. It is separate from the medical community for this very reason.

That's how they differ from doctors, to the earlier post about "Well how are they different?" And that is a very big difference. Doctors offer treatments that are proven to work.

- Chemotherapy may suck a lot, but it can help get rid of cancer. For now, its one of the best treatments we have.
- Pain pills are terrible and addictive, but we need pain alleviation. Also, its not just doctors who are responsible for the opiod crisis, its drug companies as well.
- Surgeries are necessary?

Just saying.
 

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I'm not a fan of chiropractors and their methods although others swear by them. My wife started seeing one regarding a recent injury. She saw improvement and was feeling better. It may have been due to her trip to the chiropractor or due to other things she tried including rest from her normal workouts. What gets me upset is that a few weeks later, my wife received a "We've been missing you" e-mail asking her where she's been. Long story short, she's back there today and more money is headed their way.

What's the deal with chiropractors these days? Is the only thing they are shooting for is temporary progress and marketing for patient retention? Shouldn't the goal be to provide a permanent fix and leave the patient alone? Or am I off base on this? Please advise!

I am not a chiropractor but if I was I would do all I could to keep as many customers coming back as often as possible. I like money...and I want more of it.
 

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You could say the same about the medical community who
-1) push pills which only treat symptoms instead of addressing the underlying issue.
-2) provide chemo therapy which destroys the immune system, instead of addressing the underlying issue, which caused cancer to develop.
-3) remove things from the body(surgery), which also doesn't address why those things needed removed in the first place.

When is the last time you heard any medical doctor implicate diet or toxicity in any disease? I was told by a medical doctor I could eat anything I wanted and it had nothing to do with illness?

fyi:I was told I had 2 years to live.........................25 years ago. They could not diagnose what I had. I had been to 15 different doctors culminating with Mayo Clinic in Rochester.

I had a doctor tell me I was the most "stubborn" patient he ever had.
To this day, I wear that comment ...."as a badge of honor". Studies have shown that those who participate in their wellness have better outcomes than those who blindly follow a physicians advice.

The body is intelligent and self regulating. Medications alter this regulation. Is your blood-pressure high? Well, you can take a pill, OR, you can try to determine why the BP is high and make changes to address it. Most people would rather take a pill instead of changing their diet. Thats the main difference I see between doctors and Chiropractors.

Now, as in any profession, there are competent and incompetent. In either case, educate yourself so you can participate in your own wellness.

That's only a partial opinion on the subject.

LOL. I agree with educating yourself but sources matter and it seems that you found the wrong ones and chose to believe garbage
 
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DudznSudz

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The Husker sports teams routinely use chiropractors. Spine and Sports chiropractic is used by the volleyball, football and women's basketball players.

Yup! And Im not knocking that. The last time I was CRACKED was right after the Lincoln Halfsy, and it felt amazing. I remember in a Hard Knocks episode from a few years back, one of the defensive linemen from the Rams I believe used acupuncture at the team facility and swore that it helped with soreness. The physical therapist doing it to him laughed, too, because his muscle tissue was so dense, it was bending her needles.

I'm just saying that it is also true that the things many chiropractors claim are complete B.S., and that you have to be careful because a bad one can hurt you and they definitely try to just milk you for money a lot of the time. Other than THAT, enjoy!
 

kerpal_68

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It's hard to get her schedule, but she works at the Chinese massage place at Boynton Beach Mall in Florida.

Also, if you can get an appointment, I recommend Mondragon Chiropractic out of St. Augustine Fl.

Brenda is a smart gal has a great Youtube Channel. Yoga pants are a bonus.


Does she offer to make the banana cry and how much? Asking for a friend.
 
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Does she offer to make the banana cry and how much? Asking for a friend.
Thats a euphemism Ive never heard. Banana? Peyronies disease or something? And cry? Come on you should be happy. Well if its a banana I guess I can see the crying.
 

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I have nothing but good to say about Chiropratic. Way better alternative to pain pills, muscle relaxers, and surgery.

Many of our past stars have advocated chiropractic. Roger Craig comes to mind, and there are others as well.

Thirty years of succesful treatments with them. To call them all quacks, and or snake oil salesmen, is both mean spirited, and ignorant.

Roger Craig is also from Davenport, IA, where the practice of chiropractic was created.
 
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A few years ago consumer reports magazine ran a big article on chiropractors. They indicated that one of their classes is how to treat families for life. Any group that would do that loses total credibility in my mind. If I go to the doctor more than a couple of times and he can’t cure me, I will choose another doctor unless it’s a serious condition. You shouldn’t have to keep going back. That’s why, in my opinion, chiropractors are glorified massage therapists. I’ve also worked in the insurance industry for years and have seen how they manipulate the insurance industry and cost us billions of dollars a year. My brother was in a minor auto accident a few years ago and received 10 letters from chiropractors within a few days. Really? So I’m clearly not a fan.
 

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I've never been and have always been skeptical. However, about two years ago my wife started have a LOT of hip pain. Went to see a regular doc and he said probably arthritis, gave her some pills and said "see ya". I mean she was in agony all the time. Started seeing a chiro and she's pain free at this point. So, yeah there's a cost because she still goes periodically, but whatever. If it works for her I'm happy.
 

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It's hard to get her schedule, but she works at the Chinese massage place at Boynton Beach Mall in Florida.

Also, if you can get an appointment, I recommend Mondragon Chiropractic out of St. Augustine Fl.

Brenda is a smart gal has a great Youtube Channel. Yoga pants are a bonus.

Watched the video. Wished all chiropractor took this approach
 

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A local chiropracter aquaintance of mine paralyzed a guy by adjusting his neck. He took a radiograph before "adjusting" him but failed to notice a cervical vertebral fracture. IF you had ever dissected a spinal column you know that the idea that you could "adjust" or straighten a spine by cracking is ludicrous. Another chiropracter friend of mine actually gets some referrals from orthopedists because he uses stretching and physical therapy type concepts to treat his patients. The guys that try to get you hooked in to multiple and regular visits and lengthy treatment plans are crooks.
 

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My brother in law is a chiropractor in Omaha. He's fairly well known around the country in chiropractic circles, he travels the country giving seminars and speeches.
 

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I went to Muow in Council Bluffs. They are awesome. Yes they want the continued business. Chiropractic isnt a practice to heal you. It is more of preventative measures.

I had severe pain in the bottom of my right foot and not as severe in my left. Went to Dr. Here take these pills and call me next week if it dont go away. Of coarse it didnt go away. He sent me to a specialist and he couldnt do anything either. Here use these $100 insoles for your shoes. Nope that didnt work. I gave up for a few months. Finally went to Muow and yes it was pricey (spent about $2000 of HSA pre tax money for the year). But after about 2 months I had zero foot pain. I went in for regular adjustments. Lost my job and insurance and couldnt afford the $80 a month to go 2x a month for regular adjustments.

I would recommend a good chiropractor to anybody over the hack Dr. that IS fed by BIG PHARMA.
 

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I went to Muow in Council Bluffs. They are awesome. Yes they want the continued business. Chiropractic isnt a practice to heal you. It is more of preventative measures.

I had severe pain in the bottom of my right foot and not as severe in my left. Went to Dr. Here take these pills and call me next week if it dont go away. Of coarse it didnt go away. He sent me to a specialist and he couldnt do anything either. Here use these $100 insoles for your shoes. Nope that didnt work. I gave up for a few months. Finally went to Muow and yes it was pricey (spent about $2000 of HSA pre tax money for the year). But after about 2 months I had zero foot pain. I went in for regular adjustments. Lost my job and insurance and couldnt afford the $80 a month to go 2x a month for regular adjustments.

I would recommend a good chiropractor to anybody over the hack Dr. that IS fed by BIG PHARMA.

Clueless.
 
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Disagree with the "quacks" and other comments because I've seen the difference they can make, but if you have a problem with them contacting whoever it might be in your family, you can ask them to stop or block them. Not exactly a hard thing to do. Pretty trivial in fact.
 
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I'd never gone to a chiropractor up until a couple months ago. Started to go twice a week for about a month, then once a week for a few weeks, then every 10 days and I'm sure I'll be going back every two weeks and such.

Chiropractic care works as long as you have really good insurance otherwise if I didn't have good insurance, I'd probably go once or twice a month tops.
 

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A local chiropracter aquaintance of mine paralyzed a guy by adjusting his neck. He took a radiograph before "adjusting" him but failed to notice a cervical vertebral fracture. IF you had ever dissected a spinal column you know that the idea that you could "adjust" or straighten a spine by cracking is ludicrous. Another chiropracter friend of mine actually gets some referrals from orthopedists because he uses stretching and physical therapy type concepts to treat his patients. The guys that try to get you hooked in to multiple and regular visits and lengthy treatment plans are crooks.
This. Some of them do good work based in sound methods for integrative health. Others are nutjobs who think getting you to make some popping sounds and maybe showering you with other health-ish advice makes them just as good as any doctor.

If you have a pain issue related to poor mobility/flexibilty/stretching a lot of people can do you a lot of good. I have mild sciatica right now caused by tight hips and I need to stretch to eliminate it. A doc could "treat" it with pain meds but it wouldn't go away.

That doesn't mean that if I break my hip I should see a yoga instructor.