OT: Black baseball teams
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Yes I hit a grand slam off of Satchel Page and no hit the Indy Clowns.
Monk you're too modest.It wasn't a no hitter but a perfect game!!
You also neglected to mention that you struck out 27 that day on 81 pitches.
Years ago my Dad’s Staten Island semi-pro baseball team played against a team of bearded midwesterners who barnstormed as the House of David. Years later he played on a Park Ridge NJ softball team that played Eddie Feigner’s The King and His Court. I watched that softball game. Feigner was amazing.
The only negative to Jackie Robinson was that it ended the negro leagues..They used to draw a lot of African Americans to the stadiums where white people didn't and couldn't patronize them.So here we are 70 years later and most black players are Latino. But yet Mookie and Judge and Stanton are at the top of the sport.
Barry Bonds Griffey Jr.Hammering Hank the Willies ..I know they don't play baseball in the cities anymore but that can change . Baseball needs to market itself much much better.
Barry Bonds Griffey Jr.Hammering Hank the Willies ..I know they don't play baseball in the cities anymore but that can change . Baseball needs to market itself much much better.
With all due respect, what does it matter what race or color a player is? The NBA used to have mostly white guys. Sports players is one of the few employees in society where the best guys get the jobs . No politics or bs, but can you help the organization win?
My father, who had a big league bat, but not a strong enough arm, worked out with the St. Louis Browns. The guy that had the locker next to him was Satchel Page.
Had a friend who played his college hoops at Kean. He and some of his socially-conscious teammates put together a hoops team that played non-travel teams — they played games against prison all-star teams. According to him, he took some hard fouls in those games.
Speaking of hard elbows...
Late in the tenure of Jerry Faust’s career at ND the coaching staff played in the very popular intramural basketball tournament they have...dorm vs. dorm, clubs vs. clubs, etc.
One team that played the coaches came out wearing the jerseys of the schools ND lost to that season.
It was known as a very “spirited” game.
Played against the Sing Sing baseball team. Very good. They beat us something like 8-6 & we were pretty damn good. The stands from home plate to the left field line were packed shoulder to shoulder with inmates. They rooted & hooted against their team & for the visitors as a matter of custom. We were the only ones in the stands on the right field side--in a wire cage cut into the bleachers with a guard & his shotgun. The guard rode with us in the black mariah from the parking lot to the club house & was with us in the locker room when we changed. Altogether very relaxing.
First time up the catcher says to me "don't dig in against this guy. he's in for murdering his wife." Ump looked like he had gone 15 rounds with Carmine Basilio more than once--cauliflower ears & nose pushed over to the side. Great experience. For the record, they didn't travel.
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With MLB it was a conscious decision to pull marketing funds out of the inner cites and into the Caribbean. Concurrently with the emergence of Michael Jordan, interest in baseball in the black community has declined.
How'd you do against the Motor Kings?
Great movie...my first intro to the great Richard Pryor
Umm yeah so who cares where mlb markets its game?
The best players will play, regardless of race
I don't that that was his point. How many pick up baseball games do you think they play in NYC vs. Soccer or basketball? Its not an inner city sport like it used to be.
Ok, I wasn’t sure of the point . Is the point there isn’t enough black baseball players because mlb doesn’t invest in inner cities?
If so, I guess the same argument could be made that there aren’t enough white basketball players because nba doesn’t invest in white neighborhoods.
Both sides sound ridiculous to me.
I don't think the investment thing matters unless MLB built facilities all over the cities. There isn't a osrk in America that doesn't have a bball court. All you need is 200 sq feet and a basket.
I think House of David also had a traveling basketball team.
The King and His Court came to NB almost every summer when I was a kid. Game was at Memorial Stadium on a softball field set up at the right side of the concrete stands so the fans could watch everything including the pre-game put on by the King.
Amazing exhibition and entertainment.
I worked in the Newark Bd of EDUC. Recreation System for 34 years,starting in 1953.Baseball was really never a B1G inner city sport.It was HOOPS from morning to night.
Understand. But Newark didn't have 2 pro teams...
But I would never think baseball would ever be sport no. 1 or 2 or even 3. Too much space and organization required.
Not many golfers north of the freeze line in winter lol.
I totally get it. As space and demographics changed..so did such stuff. Its life.
I think you missed his point... if I understand it, he was saying that since cities generally have a high black population.. lack of baseball playing in cities is hurting the ability to produce black pro players from the USA.
Do you mean the 1919 White Sox? There was no Negro League by that name though I could be wrong. However there was a Baltimore Black Sox and the Chicago team was called American Giants.
What years did he play? He'll give me his name and I'll see what I can dig up on him.
Now you sound ignorant. If you don't market the game to certain groups, especially those who are marginalized, it's not hard to figure that you will probably lose traction. The NFL and the NBA does a better job. To MLB's credit they saw the error of their ways created and the RBI program to reach the inner city.
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Ok, as far as marketing goes for fans I get that . A business wants as many paying customers as possible. But as far as the racial makeup of the leagues, I don’t get it . No one cares about the decrease of white players over the years in nba and nfl jobs.
Sorry it was a joke. The White Sox that threw the series were called the Black Sox.
I am talking about both participation and fan base. Growing up we played baseball just as much as we played basketball and football. That is not the case anymore. Baseball is now second to football in terms of revenue worldwide as it relates to sports leagues. It used to be #1.
Larry Doby Jr and I used to practice with the Montclair Apache’s.
They were an All Black team of grown men, based out of Nishuane park in Montclair, we were in middle school and could play right with them.
They were an All Black team of grown men, based out of Nishuane park in Montclair, we were in middle school and could play right with them.
I think you're still missing the point. All he's saying is due to lack of marketing to inner cities baseball is losing athletes to different sports. So potentially the Ken Griffey Jr. of today is playing football or basketball so baseball is losing out on that guy. His concern doesn't seem to be the racial makeup of the league he's concerned about just the loss of potentially great players.
I get it now. And as less white guys go into the NBA , we may be missing out on the next Larry bird .
The King and his Court a four man team Amazing He could throw strikes past guys from second base. Strike out guys blindfolded. There will never be another team (guy) like that awesome
The talent in the Negro leagues was never in question.
Running, throwing, hitting and pitching was obvious to everyone.
It was the old fallacy of they didn’t know how to play, or defend... or they couldn’t master the subtleties and nuisances of the game.
That’s funny because most of the MLB pre 1940s was made up of uneducated and barely literate men.
The barnstorming Negro league all-stars held their own every opportunity they had when playing against White teams.
A Sachael Page team playing against a Joe DiMaggio led team drew 50 thousand people back in the day... most were there to marvel at Satch
Running, throwing, hitting and pitching was obvious to everyone.
It was the old fallacy of they didn’t know how to play, or defend... or they couldn’t master the subtleties and nuisances of the game.
That’s funny because most of the MLB pre 1940s was made up of uneducated and barely literate men.
The barnstorming Negro league all-stars held their own every opportunity they had when playing against White teams.
A Sachael Page team playing against a Joe DiMaggio led team drew 50 thousand people back in the day... most were there to marvel at Satch
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