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OT: Bill Belichick Imploding?

Knight Shift

Knight Shift

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jsol_05 said:
You do realize that if you subtract the Ray Rice years, GS record would be 67-92 instead of 97-103. Enough said.
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You do realize if you take out the 3 years of rebuild in each of 1.0 and 2.0, Greg's record would be 81-58. In both 1.0 and 2.0, everything had to be rebuilt from the ground up.

And post Ray Rice in 1.0, Greg was 30-21, including the disastrous 2010 season that EL was injured.

BB was 36-44 at Cleveland and 22-29 after Brady leave in 2020. Totally different set of facts.

We can flip numbers however we want to.
 
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"You do realize if you take out the 3 years of rebuild in each of 1.0 and 2.0, Greg's record would be 81-58. In both 1.0 and 2.0, everything had to be rebuilt from the ground up.

And post Ray Rice in 1.0, Greg was 30-21, including the disastrous 2010 season that EL was injured."

Very true perspective point. Too much focus on overall record and forgetting on HOW BAD the program was after both Shea and Ash. It was absurd those first years. Now we know Belichek couldnt have come in a instantly make it a winner and likely Urban, Cignetti etc either. Perspective is hard.

What if the 4th quarter leads held in last 2 games? What would talk be then? The perspective SHOULD be similar but until we get over the top on a ranked win again it will be out there and not wrong to clamor for that W. For anyone who lived through the Shea horror, the Flood over his head incompetence and the Ash dumpster, it's sure nice to watch competitive games against real teams as a start.
 
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I don’t know who Ollie is but John Ourand is a former SBJ reporter who retweeted it. Still nothing from other mainstream CFB media yet. If true..damn lol.



 
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jsol_05 said:
You do realize that if you subtract the Ray Rice years, GS record would be 67-92 instead of 97-103. Enough said.
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do you realize the type of program Greg inherited both times.
Belichick had it a lot easier when he took over in 2000

19998-8-0T4th -- AFC East--Pete CarrollRoster / Stats
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199710-6-01st -- AFC East1-1 - Lost Divisional PlayoffsPete CarrollRoster / Stats
199611-5-01st -- AFC East2-1 - Lost SuperbowlBill ParcellsRoster / Stats
19956-10-04th -- AFC East--Bill ParcellsRoster / Stats
199410-6-02nd -- AFC East0-1 - Lost Wild Card PlayoffsBill ParcellsR
 
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If Belichek is ousted, what are the odds his son is DC here next year?

I would think better than 50/50...
 
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A quote from Flounder in Animal House is coming to mind but for the life of me I just can't think of it.
 
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Belicheck is on another level. He doesn't want to coach college - he just did this to bank a cool $10M and stay relevant so he can keep banging his crazy girl. Then he can just mutually part ways. Genius stuff here.
 
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RU Cheese said:
Belicheck is on another level. He doesn't want to coach college - he just did this to bank a cool $10M and stay relevant so he can keep banging his crazy girl. Then he can just mutually part ways. Genius stuff here.
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An adaptation of an Eric Stratton quote:

"You f***** up. You trusted me"
 
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Idk I think he may have really under estimated how much goes into being a head coach in college football. I think he truly wanted to continue coaching, especially with how things ended in New England. Not to mention he got the opportunity to coach with his sons...he may be having second thoughts now realizing how much work being a college head coach really is. But let's show some grace to our elders as they transition to new stages of life. I know it was hard for my grandfather to retire, he drove trucks until he had to be forced from behind the wheel. Then this man refused to be unemployed and took a job at ShopRite until he literally couldn't work anymore because of dementia. So I understand people that really don't want to retire, they feel like they're being lazy if they aren't doing something..
 
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Jerseylegends said:
Idk I think he may have really under estimated how much goes into being a head coach in college football. I think he truly wanted to continue coaching, especially with how things ended in New England. Not to mention he got the opportunity to coach with his sons...he may be having second thoughts now realizing how much work being a college head coach really is. But let's show some grace to our elders as they transition to new stages of life. I know it was hard for my grandfather to retire, he drove trucks until he had to be forced from behind the wheel. Then this man refused to be unemployed and took a job at ShopRite until he literally couldn't work anymore because of dementia. So I understand people that really don't want to retire, they feel like they're being lazy if they aren't doing something..
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If you read articles about them it’s less about the not wanting to retire and keep in the professsion, say like Mack Brown, and more about the arrogance that they thought they’re smarter than everyone else. Also pettiness like trying prevent the media dept from celebrating an alum like Drake Maye, which every school does. That’s the kind of stuff that sours everyone.

But like I said above, these stories seem like a concerted effort to sow chaos like what happened to Harsin at Auburn.

They have a very favorable schedule this year but sounds like they don’t have the talent to take advantage of it. Read an article where a G5 coach was saying he kept running into UNC on the player acquisition trail and was getting beat. He’s like if you keep beating me on the trail then you’re going to stink because the type of player I’m looking at isn’t the type of player you should be looking at over and over.
 
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Take it from an ACC lifer: the success of the football team is not that meaningful for most conference schools...
 
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rutgersguy2 said:
If you read articles about them it’s less about the not wanting to retire and keep in the professsion, say like Mack Brown, and more about the arrogance that they thought they’re smarter than everyone else. Also pettiness like trying prevent the media dept from celebrating an alum like Drake Maye, which every school does. That’s the kind of stuff that sours everyone.

But like I said above, these stories seem like a concerted effort to sow chaos like what happened to Harsin at Auburn.

They have a very favorable schedule this year but sounds like they don’t have the talent to take advantage of it. Read an article where a G5 coach was saying he kept running into UNC on the player acquisition trail and was getting beat. He’s like if you keep beating me on the trail then you’re going to stink because the type of player I’m looking at isn’t the type of player you should be looking at over and over.
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I don't know where Mike Lombardi got the idea that he was smarter than anyone.
 
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rutgersguy2 said:
I don’t know who Ollie is but John Ourand is a former SBJ reporter who retweeted it. Still nothing from other mainstream CFB media yet. If true..damn lol.



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We may have an immediate opening at DC.. on condition the girlfriend gets lost between Chapel Hill and Piscataway
 
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