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PRH_RU

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FDA does not monitor supplements but they will tell you which companies are not making scientifically based claims. Like “ clinical trials state”. If it’s not IND approved it’s not a real clinical trial.

Also check out the NIH website
 

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FDA does not monitor supplements but they will tell you which companies are not making scientifically based claims. Like “ clinical trials state”. If it’s not IND approved it’s not a real clinical trial.

Also check out the NIH website

Supplement makers do not do clinical trials. That is mostly why supplements are affordable. With clinical trials costing millions and millions of dollars they are counterintuitive for low priced supplements.
 

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Couple things here. First, I, too, am terrible at remembering peoples' names.

A suggestion on that. When you first meet someone, say their name as they are introduced, and repeat it quickly in the ensuing conversation. Each time you say it, or recall it, the more you ingrain it into your head. When we forget a name, we tend to do it almost immediately as it leaves short term memory and never makes it into long term memory. (Short term memory doesn't mean things that happened a few minutes ago; it is basically what you currently have in your brain. You get a phone number over the phone. It's in your short term memory. If you don't repeat it a couple of times or do something else with the info, it leaves your short term memory and never makes it into long term memory.)

In general, memory is a system of storing things and being able to recall them when you want. The easiest way to do that is to act on the information that you want to remember. Link it to something you already know, or put it into a new or different context. You could make an analogy to organizing physical stuff. You put your silverware in a certain drawer, and all the forks together, etc. Your tools are in the garage, important papers in files, socks in the second drawer, etc. You can organize information in the same way. Just by organizing it, you help to remember it. And by recalling it, you reinforce your memory of it.

As we get older, it just gets harder to do this. What we have to do is work at it harder.

If anybody is interested, I can recommend some good material on this.
 

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I memory, especially short term memory, is not good either. But I can remember Tim Tuefil’s grand slam in the 10th inning to beat my Phillies at Shea stadium.... so I hated him as well.

My only memory of Tim Tuefel was getting beamed by Rob Dibble spawning a huge brawl. I remember this because I was in attendance the next game, a Sunday afternoon, when Juan Samuel got revenge taking Dibs deep over the centerfield fence.
 

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Seriously, Ginko Biloba works wonders for me. Maybe not pure memory, but it enables me able to think a lot clearer, especially when having to think a few steps out.
I'll second that, it works for me.
And Zap I think what you are going thru is normal, for me any way.
I can name the whole 1956 Yankee team, but can't tell you the names of
our visitors from the higher ups, that visited us yesterday.
 
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Do you remember this?

SNL Mr. Short Term Memory (a commercial plays first)

Good luck with this... gotta suck. I have a general suspicion that Trump may have an issue like this.. would explain how everything he says seems so off-the-cuff.. like its the first time he thought about it.. and reverses himself.

Skillet's suggestions above are good. I also know first-hand the pain of people knowing your name and you know you should know theirs.. but don't.
 
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Ugh, I hated Tuefel, his batting stance, and that damn platoon by Davey Johnson lol. I was a huge Wally Backman fan. My younger brother liked Tuefel. To this day I think he liked Tuefel because he knew it would annoy me as a Backman fan.
It was the right move Backman sucked from the right side and Tuefel hammered lefties.
 
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Forget supplements. For overall physical and mental health, it is crucial to have a healthy micro biome. Your micro biome describes the diversity of bacteria in your large intestine. This is a hot topic in medical science right now and the research is revealing links between our intestinal flora and a whole host of diseases, obesity, allergies, and potentially autism.

How do you establish a healthy microbiome? Eat a variety of foods, especially fermented foods, such as yogurt, sauerkraut, kimchi, kombucha, raw vegetables, miso, cheese (real cheese, not Kraft singles), fish sauce....and many others.

Avoid antibiotics unless absolutely necessary. They wipe out many of the beneficial bacteria in our gut. It takes months to re-establish our microbiome after a course of antibiotics
Avoid sugar, sugar substitutes, and refined, processed foods. These foods help the bad bacteria grow and inhibit the growth of the good.
 

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Forget supplements. For overall physical and mental health, it is crucial to have a healthy micro biome. Your micro biome describes the diversity of bacteria in your large intestine. This is a hot topic in medical science right now and the research is revealing links between our intestinal flora and a whole host of diseases, obesity, allergies, and potentially autism.

How do you establish a healthy microbiome? Eat a variety of foods, especially fermented foods, such as yogurt, sauerkraut, kimchi, kombucha, raw vegetables, miso, cheese (real cheese, not Kraft singles), fish sauce....and many others.

Avoid antibiotics unless absolutely necessary. They wipe out many of the beneficial bacteria in our gut. It takes months to re-establish our microbiome after a course of antibiotics
Avoid sugar, sugar substitutes, and refined, processed foods. These foods help the bad bacteria grow and inhibit the growth of the good.
Does white dog crap in your belly help?
 
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Be it mineral or whatever.
I can remember the cast of Leave it to Beaver, The Munsters and Gillian’s Island.
I can name the entire no name defense or Steal Curtain.
I can tell you 69 Mets lineup pitching staff and thier numbers.
But I can’t remember anyone’s name I meet new today.
If I’ve never met you and had lunch with you yesterday, there’s no chance I’ll remember your name today.
Can I do anything for that... lol
Without looking it up, can you name the 4 twenty game winners on the Orioles staff from, I believe 1970? Cue the theme song from Jeopardy.
 
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Be it mineral or whatever.
I can remember the cast of Leave it to Beaver, The Munsters and Gillian’s Island.
I can name the entire no name defense or Steal Curtain.
I can tell you 69 Mets lineup pitching staff and thier numbers.
But I can’t remember anyone’s name I meet new today.
If I’ve never met you and had lunch with you yesterday, there’s no chance I’ll remember your name today.
Can I do anything for that... lol

Smoke pot.
 

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Be it mineral or whatever.
I can remember the cast of Leave it to Beaver, The Munsters and Gillian’s Island.
I can name the entire no name defense or Steal Curtain.
I can tell you 69 Mets lineup pitching staff and thier numbers.
But I can’t remember anyone’s name I meet new today.
If I’ve never met you and had lunch with you yesterday, there’s no chance I’ll remember your name today.
Can I do anything for that... lol
I love a great OT thread
 

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The problem at my age is that there’s as many things I’d like to remember as I’d like to forget.
 
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Please speak to your doctor about this. It may be normal aging but it could also be an MCI and there are options to mitigate the problems with those concerns if it's an MCI.
 

PRH_RU

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Supplement makers do not do clinical trials. That is mostly why supplements are affordable. With clinical trials costing millions and millions of dollars they are counterintuitive for low priced supplements.

Agreed but large Pharma companies companies and numerous academics Institutions study supliments. I bet a quick query will show that Rutgers Nutritian program on cook has numerous studies going on

http://nutrition.rutgers.edu/graduate/

As an example



Joshua W. Miller, Ph.D.
Professor
Chair, Dept. of Nutritonal Sciences, Rutgers University
Phone: 848-932-5428
Fax: 732-932-6776
Email: [email protected]

Research: B vitamins, homocysteine, and one-carbon metabolism; cognitive function and dementia in older adul
ts; mammary development and cancer
 
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A sketchy memory isn't necessarily a bad thing. Lots of disordered people have minds like fly paper. As people get older/wiser understanding ranks over knowledge. You don't need a head full of trivia and junk so dont fret imo.

However - I had success with these

Phosphatidylserine (in fish as well)

Fish oil capsules and/or flax seeds (work well in smoothies)

Probiotics as mentioned above. Some doctors use them for ADHD. If you take the capsules and add one to jar of milk you can grow your own. Let sit a couple days - drink half and add more milk. Good to go next day if weather warm (no need to refrigerate - same for yogurt). mak8ing sauerkraut juice also good (can buy cans/bottles of Frank's).

Watch wheat and sugar (leaky gut etc). Be careful of herbs too because they can kick heck out of liver over time. Had a friend wake-up yellow with jaundice from 2 months of echinacea.

What Eating Too Much Sugar Does to Your Brain
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...04/what-eating-too-much-sugar-does-your-brain

Grain Brain
https://www.drperlmutter.com/category/grain-brain/


SAFETY ISSUES AFFECTING HERBS:
PYRROLIZIDINE ALKALOIDS
http://www.itmonline.org/arts/pas.htm
 
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Agreed but large Pharma companies companies and numerous academics Institutions study supliments. I bet a quick query will show that Rutgers Nutritian program on cook has numerous studies going on

http://nutrition.rutgers.edu/graduate/







Joshua W. Miller, Ph.D.
Professor
Chair, Dept. of Nutritonal Sciences, Rutgers University
Phone: 848-932-5428
Fax: 732-932-6776
Email: [email protected]

Research: B vitamins, homocysteine, and one-carbon metabolism; cognitive function and dementia in older adul
ts; mammary development and cancer

There are a couple of case I have heard of where pharma companies paid for trials on popular supplements that "proved" the supplements were ineffective. I have also heard that the trials were not conducted the way Natural Doctors (NDs, yes there are such things) would have conducted them.
 

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Couple things here. First, I, too, am terrible at remembering peoples' names.

A suggestion on that. When you first meet someone, say their name as they are introduced, and repeat it quickly in the ensuing conversation. Each time you say it, or recall it, the more you ingrain it into your head. When we forget a name, we tend to do it almost immediately as it leaves short term memory and never makes it into long term memory. (Short term memory doesn't mean things that happened a few minutes ago; it is basically what you currently have in your brain. You get a phone number over the phone. It's in your short term memory. If you don't repeat it a couple of times or do something else with the info, it leaves your short term memory and never makes it into long term memory.)

In general, memory is a system of storing things and being able to recall them when you want. The easiest way to do that is to act on the information that you want to remember. Link it to something you already know, or put it into a new or different context. You could make an analogy to organizing physical stuff. You put your silverware in a certain drawer, and all the forks together, etc. Your tools are in the garage, important papers in files, socks in the second drawer, etc. You can organize information in the same way. Just by organizing it, you help to remember it. And by recalling it, you reinforce your memory of it.

As we get older, it just gets harder to do this. What we have to do is work at it harder.

If anybody is interested, I can recommend some good material on this.

I am interested in addl material on this.
 

SkilletHead2

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I am interested in addl material on this.
If you want to read something that is pretty well written and gets to the heart of the matter, try "Make It Stick: The Science of Successful Learning", a book about how to learn, but it is essentially about how to remember things. Here it is on Amazon:

I wrote a review of it for PsycCrtitques, APA's review journal. I'd be happy to send it to you if you'd like. email me at jeffreyksmith which is a gmail account. It lays out what the book is about.

Here's a memory trick that I like: Let's say you have to remember a list of items in order. For example's sake, here is a list of ten common nouns taken from just looking around my living room right now:
1. television
2. chair
3. floor
4. fireplace
5. stereo
6. box
7. magazine
8. computer
9. rug
10. table

OK, so let's say you want to memorize them in order. To do so, use a little nursery rhyme:
One is a bun,
Two is a shoe,
Three is a tree,
Four is a door,
Five is a hive,
Six is sticks,
Seven is heaven,
Eight is a gate,
Nine is a line,
Ten is a hen.

Now, you can remember the nursery rhyme, because it's the most obvious rhymes. Try it.

OK, now what you have to do is to tie your list of items to the nursery rhyme. This is the part that takes a minute, but it is killer effective. Make a bizarre visual image that includes both the item and the rhyme. One is a bun and one is television. Make an image out of that. Maybe a television sandwich and you are opening your mouth way wide to get it in. Two is a shoe and two is a chair. So, how to make a strange image out of that? Imagine your dining room chairs all replaced by giant shoes -- six of them around the table. Don't go for common, simple images -- make them bizarre, they are easier to recall. Three is a tree and three is the floor. Maybe imagine a tree with a checkerboard square floor on top of it and there's a dance going on on top of it. I'll do two more and you can do the rest. It works better if you come up with the image. Four is a door and four is fireplace. Always make sure the image can start with the nursery rhyme word. That is your trigger. So, door and fireplace. How about double doors that open up and there is a blazing fireplace behind them. And five is a hive, and a stereo. I have an image of bees buzzing around wearing stereo headsets (make sure you'd come up with stereo and not headset). OK, that's five. What's one? Easy, television sandwich. What's three? tree, floor with people dancing on top of it. Two, shoe (six of them as chairs, which is our goal word). You've got all five of these nailed in order. You can say "What's four?" or "What number is fireplace?" and the answer is at your fingertips. It will work just as easy for all ten. Try it once or twice yourself, and then amaze your wife with this. Let her pick the objects.

There are other mnemonics as well. I've got a great one for memorizing foreign language terms as well.
 

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Be it mineral or whatever.
I can remember the cast of Leave it to Beaver, The Munsters and Gillian’s Island.
I can name the entire no name defense or Steal Curtain.
I can tell you 69 Mets lineup pitching staff and thier numbers.
But I can’t remember anyone’s name I meet new today.
If I’ve never met you and had lunch with you yesterday, there’s no chance I’ll remember your name today.
Can I do anything for that... lol

Ha! I hear ya. My solution is to get in touch with Mr Peabody and ask him to return you to your youth in his WABAC (Wavelength Acceleration Bidirectional Asynchronous Controller) machine. It worked for me.
 

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Be it mineral or whatever.
I can remember the cast of Leave it to Beaver, The Munsters and Gillian’s Island.
I can name the entire no name defense or Steal Curtain.
I can tell you 69 Mets lineup pitching staff and thier numbers.
But I can’t remember anyone’s name I meet new today.
If I’ve never met you and had lunch with you yesterday, there’s no chance I’ll remember your name today.
Can I do anything for that... lol
Stop eating out and Don't invite Newbies to lunch at your home.(Real answer:Google up that request.There are any number of substances that lay claim to be able to help short term memory. Good Luck)
 

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Zappa, I will also suggest probiotics to start with. Get your gut/stomach better at absorbing the proper foods and, if nothing else, you'll feel better. It might not help with any memory issues but it can't hurt. The next step might include eating "less-processed" foods...ie. more fresh vegetables etc. There are a ton of books on this issue but you might consider the book by Tana Amen about eating proper foods. Her husband is Dr. Amen and he specializes in all sorts of brain issues and supplements.
 

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Be it mineral or whatever.
I can remember the cast of Leave it to Beaver, The Munsters and Gillian’s Island.
I can name the entire no name defense or Steal Curtain.
I can tell you 69 Mets lineup pitching staff and thier numbers.
But I can’t remember anyone’s name I meet new today.
If I’ve never met you and had lunch with you yesterday, there’s no chance I’ll remember your name today.
Can I do anything for that... lol


Don't trust anyone under 60!~

Don't drink the water...breathe the air or take do what you did when I was young.
Can't remember how many neurons were destroyed by Mary Jane or Lucy in the Sky....that's why I stopped 48 years ago!

Who knows what kind of Tsouris that $h!t caused...I can't remember!!

MO
 

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Couple things here. First, I, too, am terrible at remembering peoples' names.

A suggestion on that. When you first meet someone, say their name as they are introduced, and repeat it quickly in the ensuing conversation. Each time you say it, or recall it, the more you ingrain it into your head. When we forget a name, we tend to do it almost immediately as it leaves short term memory and never makes it into long term memory. (Short term memory doesn't mean things that happened a few minutes ago; it is basically what you currently have in your brain. You get a phone number over the phone. It's in your short term memory. If you don't repeat it a couple of times or do something else with the info, it leaves your short term memory and never makes it into long term memory.)

In general, memory is a system of storing things and being able to recall them when you want. The easiest way to do that is to act on the information that you want to remember. Link it to something you already know, or put it into a new or different context. You could make an analogy to organizing physical stuff. You put your silverware in a certain drawer, and all the forks together, etc. Your tools are in the garage, important papers in files, socks in the second drawer, etc. You can organize information in the same way. Just by organizing it, you help to remember it. And by recalling it, you reinforce your memory of it.

As we get older, it just gets harder to do this. What we have to do is work at it harder.

If anybody is interested, I can recommend some good material on this.


Ummmmmmm....what did you just say?

MO