OT: Bengals vs Chiefs Game Thread

ClassOf02v.2

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He was clearly out of bounds
Where I think Cincy did get screwed was the play earlier in the 4th quarter where the officials gave KC a do-over play (called off one play due to clock issue). KC picks up first down on next play on defensive penalty. That KC drive ultimately stalled, but who knows what would have changed in terms of time & field position.
 
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Shelby65

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obvious penalty. can't claim incidental that far out of bounds, or with arm extended, or on a QB. Sucks for him, but that's worse than Bill Buckner bad since season over.
 
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mdk02

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Being a 7th round pick, I don't think Pacheco makes that much money, relatively speaking. Yet he has such a big role on the team.

Doesn't the NFL have a bonus pool for rookies who way outperform their salary?
 

mdk02

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When both feet are out of bounds at first contact it's rarely not called.
 
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Where I think Cincy did get screwed was the play earlier in the 4th quarter where the officials gave KC a do-over play (called off one play due to clock issue). KC picks up first down on next play on defensive penalty. That KC drive ultimately stalled, but who knows what would have changed in terms of time & field position.
They were blowing the play dead regardless of the outcome…bad optics for the officials, but didn’t change anything since a positive play for KC would have also been called back.
 

Doctor Worm

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It's not debatable by reasonable football fans. --Just kidding!! 😉
I don't have a strong opinion either way. I'm OK with the penalty.
I agree that the flag was not an egregious injustice. It could have been called. But I didn't think it had to be called. And in that situation, unless a call HAS to be made, you don't make it IMO.

Watched replay five times, admittedly all from the same angle. Yes, there was contact out of bounds. A rule book penalty. But it seemed minimal (at least from that one angle). Mahomes felt the contact and went down. No fall, no call.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it
 
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ClassOf02v.2

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They were blowing the play dead regardless of the outcome…bad optics for the officials, but didn’t change anything since a positive play for KC would have also been called back.
Sure but the play being blown dead was not noticed by anyone on the field (other than the ref who called it miles away) and both teams put forth max effort in a play that was undone. Really bad job by the officials. You do not want a situation where officials give an MVP and Super Bowl winner (Mahomes) and extra play after Cincy thinks they’ve stopped him and forced a punt.
 

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They were blowing the play dead regardless of the outcome…bad optics for the officials, but didn’t change anything since a positive play for KC would have also been called back.
Yup. If the Chiefs made a touch down on that play, it would not have counted and KC would be upset instead of Cincinnati. It was odd though, not a single player heard the whistle.
 

Shelby65

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I agree that the flag was not an egregious injustice. It could have been called. But I didn't think it had to be called. And in that situation, unless a call HAS to be made, you don't make it IMO.

Watched replay five times, admittedly all from the same angle. Yes, there was contact out of bounds. A rule book penalty. But it seemed minimal (at least from that one angle). Mahomes felt the contact and went down. No fall, no call.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it
except that the shove was a yard out bounds and he did go down. but other those minor details, ok it was a bad call.

but how was the actual play, Ms. Lincoln ?

A QB gets that call 100 times out of a 100. It's how the game has been officiated for years.
 
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holding on that play to get mahomes free, or at least live it did.

also a couple blocks in the back on the punt return but idk
 
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RU Cheese

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holding on that play to get mahomes free, or at least live it did.

also a couple blocks in the back on the punt return but idk
The officiating was atrocious today, and particular the late game. You can debate the late hit call all you want - there was an egregious hold and two blocks in the back on Moore's punt return.
 

Kbee3

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I agree that the flag was not an egregious injustice. It could have been called. But I didn't think it had to be called. And in that situation, unless a call HAS to be made, you don't make it IMO.

Watched replay five times, admittedly all from the same angle. Yes, there was contact out of bounds. A rule book penalty. But it seemed minimal (at least from that one angle). Mahomes felt the contact and went down. No fall, no call.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it
I've seen a lot of atrocious roughing the passer calls this season. This wasn't one of them.
Mahomes was clearly out of bounds and the guy clearly had every reason to know it.
 

newell138

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Doesn't the NFL have a bonus pool for rookies who way outperform their salary?
All players who are on the active 53-man roster the Sunday immediately preceding the conference championship games will earn $65,000, up $6,000 from last year. Players from the winning Super Bowl team will cash an extra $150,000 each, while those from the losing team will earn $75,000 for their efforts.

Either way if this link is true he’s doing just fine

 

Jtung230

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Being a 7th round pick, I don't think Pacheco makes that much money, relatively speaking. Yet he has such a big role on the team.
Pach is in a good spot. Andy doesn’t run his RBs into the ground before the rookie contract expires. Hopefully KC does the right thing and give him a nice bonus or bump next year. I might have to replace my Priest Holmes Jersey with Pach’s.
 

zappaa

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That he was. But it's not like Ossei threw him to the ground. As I saw it, incidental contact and a flop. No flop, no flag.
Is there such a thing as an incidental push?
Can you incidentally shove someone?
The Bengal player has been playing football all his life and sideline awareness and feel is built into him.
Really bad play
 
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That he was. But it's not like Ossei threw him to the ground. As I saw it, incidental contact and a flop. No flop, no flag.
Add me to the list of those who don't agree with you. If there WAS a "flop" as you say there was, I don't think that's what drew the flag. It doesn't necessarily look like a cheap shot, but the flag needed to be thrown.

For reference, here's a link to the video for anyone who wants to check it out again. (Click "Watch on YouTube")

 
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zappaa

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Add me to the list of those who don't agree with you. If there WAS a "flop" as you say there was, I don't think that's what drew the flag. It doesn't necessarily look like a cheap shot, but the flag needed to be thrown.

For reference, here's a link to the video for anyone who wants to check it out again. (Click "Watch on YouTube")


Ever get pushed at full speed with humans and a bench in your path, not to mention a bum ankle?
 

mikebal9

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The officiating was atrocious today, and particular the late game. You can debate the late hit call all you want - there was an egregious hold and two blocks in the back on Moore's punt return.
There were 3 huge calls in the early game that massively affected the game.
1. Smith clearly dropped the 4th down pass.
2. The punt clearly hit the wire overhead.
3. Purdy's fumble was recovered and would have been returned, perhaps for a TD, but was blown dead.
Those aren't even things like holding or PI. Those were just blatant misses.
 
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