OT: Annual Tiger Woods Comeback Thread

Section124

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Bey Lea was a nice track to play and learn but the 18th was a stupid gimmick hole. Had to lay up before the pond off the tee. With today's improved technology just fly over now. Poorly designed hole.
Funny thing is I never played that course. My mom used to live in Lakewood, so we would play Eagle Ridge. Another decent but short course. I am a huge golf architect guy. Tillinghast courses are my favorite. Love the Robert Trent Jones false front greens. I like Tom Fazio courses for the aesthetics. Hate Rees Jones courses for some reason.
 

WhiteBus

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Funny thing is I never played that course. My mom used to live in Lakewood, so we would play Eagle Ridge. Another decent but short course. I am a huge golf architect guy. Tillinghast courses are my favorite. Love the Robert Trent Jones false front greens. I like Tom Fazio courses for the aesthetics. Hate Rees Jones courses for some reason.
Learned to play at Lakewood Country Club. Would leave Lavallette just before dawn. Tee off before it was opened and pay the old man with the german shepard on 10 tee. We weren't the only ones that did this. Went through a few pairs of golf shoes that summer as your feet were soaked by the time you walked off the first green. BTW even in 1977 you didn't need to wear pants [roll]
 
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wisr01

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Funny thing is I never played that course. My mom used to live in Lakewood, so we would play Eagle Ridge. Another decent but short course. I am a huge golf architect guy. Tillinghast courses are my favorite. Love the Robert Trent Jones false front greens. I like Tom Fazio courses for the aesthetics. Hate Rees Jones courses for some reason.
I play Shawnee a couple of times a year. It is Tillinghast's first design.
 

knightfan7

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Back in the 60's caddies at Essex Co could play Tue-Fri after 3 or 1 hour after the last tee time in the Summer. We'd lug our clubs from the Valley up the hills to the course and hope you didn't get a loop after noon. It was so much fun being the only ones on the course some days jumping from hole to hole. If we were only playing 9 we'd often do 1-5 and 9-12 so we could play the Par 3 11th.
 

Jtung230

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We should do a Scarlet Nation golf outing. I could set us up at Sunset but that would be a hike for a lot of folks. We could do Rutgers. Maybe we could get 6 to 8 foursomes. We could name it the Tiger Woods Comeback Scarlet Nation Golf Outing.
If we can make this a fund raising event for the B1G build, I can talk to my guy and figure out the details.
 

wisr01

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If we can make this a fund raising event for the B1G build, I can talk to my guy and figure out the details.
Hopefully we can get a decent turnout from here. Tiger Woods Comeback thread might end up having some actual value...
 

WhiteBus

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Hopefully we can get a decent turnout from here. Tiger Woods Comeback thread might end up having some actual value...
Too bad Whitey isn't around. We could play before a late football game at Rutgers
 

knightfan7

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Just sign a blank check. I let you know what you owe.
How is Squan these days? More importantly how is Leggetts?
Just sign a blank check. I let you know what you owe.
How is Squan these days? More importantly how is Leggetts?

Seems to me since the 4th of July the town is as packed as I've ever seen it. Haven't been inside Leggetts for months. The longer I worked in bars the less and less I went into one
 
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Caliknight

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They really are and will only get better.

Poor Tiger. Even his swing speed is deteriorating. 117. Roughly half the field was swinging faster. He will be a force on the senior tour when he gets there, provided he stays relatively healthy.
 

chase07470

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Been a journey of a year for Tiger Woods.

He had the lead on the back nine of a major championship. Here's a list of players who have also had the lead on a back nine of a major this year who didn't win:

Xander Shauffield

He was that close to being a major champion. Looks to me like his issues are between the ears. The minute he gets into the lead, the bad swings start happening, immediately.

Will be interesting to watch and see if he can get that famous focus back. Obviously he has the game to win out there. Came close too many times to come to any other conclusion.
 

chase07470

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Back in the 60's caddies at Essex Co could play Tue-Fri after 3 or 1 hour after the last tee time in the Summer. We'd lug our clubs from the Valley up the hills to the course and hope you didn't get a loop after noon. It was so much fun being the only ones on the course some days jumping from hole to hole. If we were only playing 9 we'd often do 1-5 and 9-12 so we could play the Par 3 11th.
Always wanted to play Essex County. Unbelievable they gave the caddies that level of daily access and that the course was ever that empty.

Played Morris County. Probably the course where the front and back nines were as different as any I've seen. That front none is just awesome.

Played SV a ton in HS. I need to take a ride out there and have another go.
 

zappaa

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IMO...
Essex County, which now extends to 7,300 yards from the tips.
Is as good as it gets, that golf course today is on par with the big boys of the North East.
Conditioning wise it’s ridiculously good as well.
It’s membership is not of the blue blood variety, if you know what I mean.
Canoe Brook, Ridgewood, Plainfield and Baltusrol have strong USGA ties, and get all the National tournaments, but ECCC is equally good if not better
 

Section124

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I play Shawnee a couple of times a year. It is Tillinghast's first design.
My wife and her friends spent a weekend there taking lessons and playing the course. I haven’t played it but it looks cool being adjacent to the Delaware. I may play it this weekend since I will be out that way.
 

Jtung230

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IMO...
Essex County, which now extends to 7,300 yards from the tips.
Is as good as it gets, that golf course today is on par with the big boys of the North East.
Conditioning wise it’s ridiculously good as well.
It’s membership is not of the blue blood variety, if you know what I mean.
Canoe Brook, Ridgewood, Plainfield and Baltusrol have strong USGA ties, and get all the National tournaments, but ECCC is equally good if not better
It’s def a “boys” club. Kids and wives are frowned upon. The only exception is Canoe Brook.
 

NJbound

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Played the 8th and a mama bear and 2 cubs were rolling around the green. I pretty much always see bears there. Fun and scary at the same time.
When I played there a few years ago, there was a large bear walking across the driving range. I commented about him to the kid that was collecting the golf carts. He said, “Do you want to meet him? Get in.” I jumped in the cart, and he started speeding up the hill, right for the bear. I was amused at first, but when we got about 50 feet away, I started to get concerned, and asked him how close he intended to get. He said, “don’t worry, he’s a big baby, and will run!” Sure enough, the bear took off, and this kid followed him right to the edge of the woods, getting as close as about 20 feet away. Far too close for my liking, but very exciting.
 
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zappaa

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It’s def a “boys” club. Kids and wives are frowned upon. The only exception is Canoe Brook.
Disagree there.
ECCC is exactly what you describe.
But all the rest have strong women’s and kids programs.
 

knightfan7

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Always wanted to play Essex County. Unbelievable they gave the caddies that level of daily access and that the course was ever that empty.

Played Morris County. Probably the course where the front and back nines were as different as any I've seen. That front none is just awesome.

Played SV a ton in HS. I need to take a ride out there and have another go.

The pro back then, Jack Mitchell, apparently felt the more you liked golf and the more you played the better you would be at the job. Yes as I remember it would be pretty empty on weekdays during the dog days of late July and August.
 

angmo

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The title if this thread should be changed to "Dog Tracks I've worn tee shirts at in Jersey". There is nothing about Tiger Woods and him sucking last week.
 

Caliknight

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His only real chance at a major is at the British Open, where old guys tend to do well.

This last tourney was everything that’s been predicted. The young guys simply have better games now. There is such an obvious difference.

No one beats father time. It’s the young guys game now. And man are they fun to watch. Rory with a 410 yard drive. Are you kidding me? Koepka is a beast. DJ with an incredible run and JT played near flawless golf. Look for him to go on a run. So many great players. A true golden generation of American golf.
 
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knightfan7

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The title if this thread should be changed to "Dog Tracks I've worn tee shirts at in Jersey". There is nothing about Tiger Woods and him sucking last week.

Here ya go. Tiger played pretty well Thu and Fri, sucked Sat and Sun.

I wonder if the comment on the broadcast Saturday about Tiger being worn down playing so much after a long time away from competition is valid?
 

Caliknight

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He was just on vacation. And plays less than most guys, many of whom played last week.
 

knightfan7

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He was just on vacation. And plays less than most guys, many of whom played last week.

Most guys aren't in their 40's, didn't go thru the injuries, and long layoff. A week won't change that much.

I agree with you that winning a major is a long shot and being a consistent Top 10 at this point probably is too much to expect but I think winning a tourney or two is a real possibility.

As Fred Couples, whose had to deal with long layoffs himself, said a few weeks ago it will take time. I don't know if we can judge Tiger's "comeback" till next year.
 

Caliknight

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Most guys aren't in their 40's, didn't go thru the injuries, and long layoff. A week won't change that much.

I agree with you that winning a major is a long shot and being a consistent Top 10 at this point probably is too much to expect but I think winning a tourney or two is a real possibility.

As Fred Couples, whose had to deal with long layoffs himself, said a few weeks ago it will take time. I don't know if we can judge Tiger's "comeback" till next year.

Exactly. He’s old and injury riddled. That’s been my contention all along. Youth will be served. In sports that’s never more true.
 

zappaa

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Tiger will never be good enough to overcome the hot young player of the week.

If it’s not Molinari playing in a different stratosphere than anyone else, it will be another guy...one of 50 guys, all who’s best, is now better than Tigers best.

Fowler better get on his horse also, he’s living up to his name as most overrated player on tour...as voted on by the players.

Remember, at Tigers age and injury history, it’s remarkable he’s still able to do what he’s doing this year.
But let’s be real, take Bubba or DJ during their hot week, then think about what Tigers best week is ....who wins?
 

Fabrizi

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Tiger will never be good enough to overcome the hot young player of the week.

If it’s not Molinari playing in a different stratosphere than anyone else, it will be another guy...one of 50 guys, all who’s best, is now better than Tigers best.

Fowler better get on his horse also, he’s living up to his name as most overrated player on tour...as voted on by the players.

Remember, at Tigers age and injury history, it’s remarkable he’s still able to do what he’s doing this year.
But let’s be real, take Bubba or DJ during their hot week, then think about what Tigers best week is ....who wins?
Hard to say never. Unlikely that Tiger can do it 4 times in majors to pass Jack. Unlikely that Tiger can be consistent enough to be a top ten player. But I'm not convinced that he can't do it in a certain week. Sergio was a real surprise last year at Augusta and that looks like a one time thing. Watson gave away The Open at age 60. Even Jack's '86 Masters was a one time resurgence.
 

chase07470

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You all saw the leaderboard, Sunday at Carnoustie. That was the last major played. How can you say he can't win another major? He was right there.

Rory has also been right there a lot of times, recently. He too has not been able to close the deal. Yet, no one says he won't win another major.

Age is age, it's not nearly as important as self belief. That comes and goes. Look at Spieth right now. Think he'll never when another major?

It isn't about Tiger's age, it's about whether he'll find that inner confidence and strength to get it done. To me, when you're talking about someone who possessed as much of it as anyone who has ever played the game, you make the bet he will find it.

PGA sets up nicely for his iron game. He might contend this week. Odds makers certainly disagree with the naysayers. Despite that weekend in Ohio, only the following are favored over him:

Dustin Johnson 10/1
Rory McIlroy 12/1
Justin Thomas 14/1
Jordan Spieth 16/1
Rickie Fowler 18/1
 
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Caliknight

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Xander Schaffle was right there. I don't believe he will win a major either.

When you see Tiger, on typical courses played in America, against the best players in the world like we did yesterday, there is a clear and obvious difference.

It's a good thing that desert thing is against Phil and not someone like JT or DJ. Tiger would get lit up.

Wonder if they make a mercy pick and put him on the Ryder Cup team.
 

Jtung230

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The wheel is in motion. The goal is to raise 5k for the build fund. Rutgers GC on a weekday in September. Just need a head count.
 
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