OT: 2025 Coaching Carousel
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Washington HC Jedd Fisch looks for exit as family 'does not like Seattle'
Washington head coach Jedd Fisch is reportedly looking for a new job after his wife moved away from Seattle.
www.newsweek.com
Smart lady…Washington HC Jedd Fisch looks for exit as family 'does not like Seattle'
Washington head coach Jedd Fisch is reportedly looking for a new job after his wife moved away from Seattle.
Since Trey Bray was dumped in October interim Robb Akey (2-1) won't be a problem ,to get rid, of if those boosters are willing to pay what it takes to hire a HC that can make the west OSU look lie the OSU in the Midwest.
"Fisch appears to be looking for an exit plan from Washington because his family doesn't enjoy The Emerald City. Fisch's wife recently moved back to Arizona."Washington HC Jedd Fisch looks for exit as family 'does not like Seattle'
Washington head coach Jedd Fisch is reportedly looking for a new job after his wife moved away from Seattle.
LOL at Newsweek getting the scoop. Seattle is beautiful, but the weather is terrible, and like many West Coast cities, the homeless are out in the open on the streets as opposed to in subways and train stations in NYC, and there is a drug problem.
Jedd Fisch confirms the rumor (joke-bogus account!):
Husky fans are quite unhappy with Fisch after yesterday's loss to Wisconsin:
Yea I thought newsweek was a weird place for that to show up but looked like they were pulling info from 247.
62–59 record at Samford since 2015. Guy was on fire at Valdosta State from 2000-06: 76–12. One never knows if success at one level will translate at another level. Stops at Georgia Southern and Murray State were not good.
Back to Samford, he was on fire that year at 11-2/8-0, but he burned out after that.
This is why, as @RUTGERS95 has said before, "for cause" should be defined in a contract to include on field performance. In LSU's case, they could have defined in a way to call the firing "for cause."
From the article, LSU's position seems flimsy:
"Kelly's contract with LSU includes a "for-cause" termination clause that allows for his firing due to "material and substantial [NCAA] rule violations"; being convicted of a felony or "any crime involving gambling, drugs, or alcohol"; or "engaging in serious misconduct which either displays a continual, serious disrespect ... for the mission of LSU" or "constitutes moral turpitude." "
What coach is going to sign a contract that defines for cause as bad on field performance or losing? CEOs get their golden parachutes when they tank companies and this is no different. It'll be a hard sell to land a coach if you start reducing the liquidated damages buyout based on wins and losses, but sure it can be done. LSU has no position and will now probably have to pay Kelly's legal fees on top of the $54M. Too much political meddling down there by the governor.
What coach? One a University should hire.
CEOs are a bad example, IMO.
The problem is all these universities (including Rutgers) chasing greatness mindlessly get fleeced by the agents of head coaches. This is how PSU and LSU wind up where they are--holding a huge liability they have to pay.
If there are bonuses in coaches' contracts for making bowls, winning conference championships and making CFP, why can't there be some language that if a coach falls below .500 for two or three consecutive years, he/she is fired.
This sense of one-way entitlement by coaches and their agents is ridiculous. I could think of many ways to draft an attractive contract for a hungry coach loaded with very rich incentives for performance and penalties for failure to perform.
then tough $hyt to the coaches as this is common in the workplace. I'll guarantee that if schools start doing this, this won't even be a question. Coaches need to remember that they are being paid generational wealth is incredibly short periods and at present calc, it's almost 500mm owed to fired coaches (that's less than 10 at present count)
it's absurd
We may not like it and we may think it's stupid or entitled, but these huge buyouts are the industry standard. If 1 school changes, but the others don't, then it'll be very hard for that 1 outlier to hire anyone.
I'm not being argumentative. The industry standard is bullsheet and needs to change. Things can change if the ADs grow a backbone and stop this nonsensical trend. No sense in debating it. There are ways to effect change. Coaches making $10M at universities, sucking at their jobs and getting canned with full pay is ridiculous.
I agree but who will be the first school to blink, and will anyone follow?
He mentioned this on a pod awhile ago and now he's written about. It might be somewhat better but I don't think solves the issue.
IMO, 2 things need to be done. Rich incentives for accompanying performance and no outs (pro contracts don't allow outs) for any other school at your level (G5 or P4). So if a G5 can move up to the P4, that's reasonable. If a P4 can get a NFL HC job that's reasonable but nothing at your current level.
I've given a structure that is fair to both sides imo. Reasonable base salary say 4M and 1M for each conference win starting at 5. You can have an incentive for being ranked at the end of the year. Bigger incentives for playoffs and advancing in the playoffs etc....It can take your salary anywhere from high singles to mid teens depending on performance. So in a given year, you're going to get paid and paid well if you perform. If you're not performing then you'll still have that reasonable base which is still plenty of money. Many first contracts start in that area as well.
ADs act too much out of desperation. You have to realize it's a crapshoot no matter how much you like a candidate. Realize that and act accordingly with a common sense contract. It richly rewards performance and keeps it manageable for nonperformance. Remove the leverage by getting rid of outs to other schools on your level.
I don't think it can be done at first with the bigger status schools. It would be nice because they could set the tone but it's not likely. More than lower status schools, they want to win the press conference and a coach will have leverage in that situation. For the lower status schools, the pool you swim in with more overlooked/unknown G5 coaches or lesser known P4 coordinators or retreads you can have some leverage because they may not get an opportunity again. Some may pass and an AD has to be willing move on and not be desperate but someone who believes in his ability and sees the fairness of such a deal will be willing to take it. Even at the base it's still big money compared to what they make in their current jobs and plenty of opportunity for more.
Agents changed the paradigm with that stupid Fisher deal and 7-10 year contracts and ADs and schools went along. You'd think some schools should at the very least for their own self interest should try to change the paradigm to some common sense deal making. Problem is, often if the decision goes wrong, the people who made it are long gone. There really isn't a sense of ownership and fiduciary responsibility. That's often the case in the "real world" too.
I kind of half jokingly said a good business would be "agents" for the schools. They can't help themselves so have an agent negotiate on your behalf.
LSU is clutching at straws and if they do get Kelly to accept less it will be because they raised his payday and gave him consessions that he found to his advantage.
All LSU's leadership are doing is making bigger fools of themselves and looking like liars.
I had mostly rooted for LSU since Paul Dietzel's "Chinese Bandits" at the end of the 1950s
( was a youngin at the time and it was the nickname that hooked me into following them, but Billy Cannon was another reason to like the program)
Though never a BK fan, still rooted for then in SEC play, now ( not that they'd care) I'm rooting for that program to turn into what Miss St used to be considered and what RU was during the Shea era (Ash for the younger folks)
It's bad enough that the Governor needed to have a say and get the AD fired , now in an effort to cut loses it seems the LSU Administration claims someone they fired wasn't realty fired then coming out with a bunch of BS trying to validate that lie.
College sports always had a bad side showing at times, but this seems a bit yo much to take for the casual observer
Hardened LSU fans won't mind a bit, but that's not a knock on them because most fanbases would act in the same way if it was their school and some Rutgers fans probably would be included
Of course you can expect pushback, mainly from the agents. I don’t think most coaches themselves would have a problem with highly incentivized deals that still pay a reasonable base.
In the end, the agents works for them not the other way around. Plus there are no outs in pro contracts unless for promotion why should there be in college deals. That’s half the problem with leverage of other jobs scaring these ADs. Agents operate in the pro world just fine collective commissions on those deals. They take advantage in college because they can, not because it’s necessary.
Some coaches may pass and as an AD you have to be willing to move on but you’ll come across qualified coaches willing to accept sooner or later.
I don’t expect any change though. Like I said how often do we see ownership or fiduciary responsibility. It can happen if there’s some fortitude to install some common sense but when does that happen in college coaching contracts.
I don’t blame agents, they’re doing their jobs. It’s the people controlling the purse strings that have to be smarter but they’re not. Instead they try these silly moves like LSU after the fact.
Huh? NFL coach contracts are also fully guaranteed, just like college.
I’m not talking about the guarantees I’m talking about outs to switch teams.
A coach can’t say I don’t like Al Davis I’d rather work for Dan Rooney and leave while he’s under contract.
Looks like this guy doesn't have a high opinion of LSU's President and supposedly acting ADI did not think LSU could look worse, but dang it they do
Only a band of idiots could screw up LSU football. Introducing the buffoons on the bayou
https://sports.yahoo.com/article/only-band-idiots-could-screw-212724181.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&segment_id=DY_VTO_TEST80&ncid=crm_19908-1475736-20251112-0--A&bt_ee=EZxiF5v/sNlXTcZGuBmXeRTIuCcmpR985zINbr2TSL8mVTWD+J1RT2grIOcnaRdU&bt_ts=1762953800435
From Football Scoop and I’m sure the talk at the end of year will be about Mike’s buyout
>Maryland: Now in year 7, Mike Locksley has had quite a run at Maryland. However, after finishing 4-8 last season, Locks felt the program would take a step forward this season. Unfortunately, the Terps have now lost 5 in a row and close out the season at Illinois, vs Michigan and at Michigan State. New Athletic Director Jim Smith (hired in May) was asked about Locksley's future at Maryland. Smith said Locks would coach the three remaining games and then "we'll determine where we are at the end of the year". The Terps have beaten four teams this season: FAU, Northern Illinois, Towson and Wisconsin. <
>Maryland: Now in year 7, Mike Locksley has had quite a run at Maryland. However, after finishing 4-8 last season, Locks felt the program would take a step forward this season. Unfortunately, the Terps have now lost 5 in a row and close out the season at Illinois, vs Michigan and at Michigan State. New Athletic Director Jim Smith (hired in May) was asked about Locksley's future at Maryland. Smith said Locks would coach the three remaining games and then "we'll determine where we are at the end of the year". The Terps have beaten four teams this season: FAU, Northern Illinois, Towson and Wisconsin. <
Don’t be surprised if Pat Fitzgerald ends up replacing Locksley since he & the new AD have a prior relationship
I didn’t know that but I wonder if after Durkin would they hire PF. He was cleared at NW but because of Maryland’s prior history would they want to touch any thing with even a hint of issues.
His defense has been good, it was Freeze’s offense and qb play which were suppose to be his expertise that stunk. They lost but their offense showed improvement the first game after Freeze was fired but then they also let up 45 points haha.
Sumrall seems to be the one who fits that job, especially being from Alabama.
I was thinking he might reunite with Brent Pry at his next stop but if it’s VT, probably not lol.
Paywall but the gist:
Lane Kiffin is UF's #1 choice and LSU may try as well but he's very happy at Ole Miss with family around so who knows.
VT really wants James Franklin but he seems to be slow playing it to see what other jobs might open, specifically FSU. VT may move on if takes too long. Chesney in the mix here as well.
PSU has looked at a lot of candidates like Chesney, Key, Fitzgerald, Stein and Hartline. Daboll possibly in the mix too. He was OC at Alabama in a championship year.
Lane Kiffin is UF's #1 choice and LSU may try as well but he's very happy at Ole Miss with family around so who knows.
VT really wants James Franklin but he seems to be slow playing it to see what other jobs might open, specifically FSU. VT may move on if takes too long. Chesney in the mix here as well.
PSU has looked at a lot of candidates like Chesney, Key, Fitzgerald, Stein and Hartline. Daboll possibly in the mix too. He was OC at Alabama in a championship year.
"Penn State also has some interest in former Nittany Lion tight end Al Golden, now the Cincinnati Bengals defensive coordinator. The 56-year-old Golden turned around a downtrodden Temple program two decades ago and later took the Miami job, but struggled to gain traction there."
"One wild card in the mix is former New York Giants head coach Brian Daboll, who was the offensive coordinator at Alabama in 2017 and helped lead the Tide to a national title. The 50-year-old is believed to have an interest in the job and is expected to get some consideration in Happy Valley."
Also under consideration and former Rutgers head coaches Chris Ash and Kyle Flood. -----why not add them to the list?