OT: 126 students caught cheating on a test

hoquat63

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Apparently 126 is the highest level math class for Business majors FWIW (and an easier version of 151 taken by Engineering majors from what I hear).
My experience was in the dark ages but when I was a frosh engineering student we took the hardest calc class, 5 credits per semester business and liberal arts students only took 3 credit course
 

RUSK97

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Lots of people cheat in high school to get into a better college . Lots of people cheat in college to get into a better graduate school . Lots of people cheat in graduate school to get a better job . Sometimes it’s ok to cut corners . Sometimes it’s not .
Of course cheating happens everywhere. But since when is it okay?
 

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It's 126 total students cheating in calc 135.
Whoops, Freudian slip. Fixed.

Back to the books like I should be.
 

RUSK97

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What's the big hubbub? I didn't read the whole thing, but if those 126 students cheated, they should get a zero on the midterm. If the student's a repeat offender, they should be separated from the school.
 
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RUnTeX

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In theory, 01:640:135 (Calc I) in the spring semester was easier than the fall semester (or at least traditionally considered by many to be so), as many of the other freshmen would be taking 01:640:136 (Calc II) by the spring. So it might be less competitive and perhaps not push as many students into cheating since the grading would hopefully be marginally easier.

This was because it would largely be comprised of students who potentially started behind by a semester if they placed only into Pre-Calc (01:640:115) and had to take that first in the fall and then they wouldn't take Calc I until the following spring.
 

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My experience was in the dark ages but when I was a frosh engineering student we took the hardest calc class, 5 credits per semester business and liberal arts students only took 3 credit course
Freshman year they basically set your classes. You could pick and choose days and times but I don't remember an elective course. Do remember it was 19.5 credits each of the first 2 semesters.
 

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Freshman year they basically set your classes. You could pick and choose days and times but I don't remember an elective course. Do remember it was 19.5 credits each of the first 2 semesters.

You were on the football team right ?
I would hope nowadays our players are taking the least amount and easiest classes they can. Stay eligible, graduate and win games!
 

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My experience was in the dark ages but when I was a frosh engineering student we took the hardest calc class, 5 credits per semester business and liberal arts students only took 3 credit course

I had a roommate in the 5 or 6-credit Intensive Calculus (as it was called at least many moons ago in early 90s). But it wasn't the hardest calc which was generally Honors Calc (191-192). My roommate always said they had it easier than the honors and regular calc classes because they had their hands held more. He especially realized this when he struggled with the pace when he got to Calc III in the fall of our sophomore year.

The intensive calc class setup was more "time intensive" (read: more hours per week to study the subject matter, hence more credits earned) as they felt certain students might benefit from more time with the material. On balance, it might have actually been easier than the regular 151-152 Calc I-II. All Calc I & II at Rutgers were 4 credits at the time, except for the Intensive version.
 
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JoeRU0304

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What's the big hubbub? I didn't read the whole thing, but if those 126 students cheated, they should get a zero on the midterm. If the student's a repeat offender, they should be separated from the school.

If this situation is true, I think the issue is the professor going on a profanity-infused written rant not really being a good look. It's not the worst thing ever but reminds me of something my Mom taught me years ago: "If you're right, don't make yourself wrong."


Joe P.
 

hoquat63

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Freshman year they basically set your classes. You could pick and choose days and times but I don't remember an elective course. Do remember it was 19.5 credits each of the first 2 semesters.
Back in the 60’s as an engineer you had no choice of anything freshman year. You came to orientation and they handed you your schedule. It was 16 credits + 1.5 credits for ROTC, if you chose not to be in ROTC, you had to take a three credit elective to replace the ROTC credits. Soph year, after I transferred out of C of E I got to pick and choose but had to take 18 credits each semester to catch up on liberal arts requirements since only nonscience/math course I took was frosh comp. Also had required Phys Ed first to years.
 

RUnTeX

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Freshman year they basically set your classes. You could pick and choose days and times but I don't remember an elective course. Do remember it was 19.5 credits each of the first 2 semesters.

Apparently this changed at some point...by the early 90s, the standard freshman engineering schedule was 17 or 18 credits per semester which included a 3-credit elective (humanities/social science, typically, but could have been among a few technical courses as well) in each semester.
 
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RUnTeX

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Also had required Phys Ed first to years.
No phys ed at all by the 90s....some of my classmates were only about as physically fit to use a joystick for computer games/consoles or through many hours in the Busch student center arcade.
 

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You were on the football team right ?
I would hope nowadays our players are taking the least amount and easiest classes they can. Stay eligible, graduate and win games!
Football and Golf on became an option because of changing majors. There was no way to do anything but school work that first year.
 

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I didn't realize Rutgers uses Canvas as an LMS. I did alot of custom work for the Canvas platform like 6-7 years ago in my previous job.
Neither did I until I started reading these threads on Reddit. Our school system here uses it for our kids.
 

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Sales people in a private corporation and a professor at a State University in NJ are completely two different things.
The pussificstion of America continues. whats different between a professor and a football coach swearing at players? Or a women’s soccer coach for that matter. You don’t think a DLine coach well get in the face of a player and tell him to stop being a *****?
 

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The pussificstion of America continues. whats different between a professor and a football coach swearing at players? Or a women’s soccer coach for that matter. You don’t think a DLine coach well get in the face of a player and tell him to stop being a *****?
While I agree with you, a certain little wannabe made a stink a few years back when Cohen called him a certain female genitalia.
 

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Yep, cursing is a fireable offense? Pretty much every sales meetings I’ve ever been a part of has a few choice words in it

Swearing can't help. It's another new operation politely insulting kids in educational learning. Lessons seem totally related. It's not good enough, really, and stopping helps
 

WhiteBus

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The pussificstion of America continues. whats different between a professor and a football coach swearing at players? Or a women’s soccer coach for that matter. You don’t think a DLine coach well get in the face of a player and tell him to stop being a *****?
Do you see any football, soccer coach going ONLINE and publicly cursing a player...ever?? Your analogy is beyond stupid. This professor didn't call out students in a classroom.
 

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As a Computer Science student at Rutgers in the last decade, I was aware of so much cheating that I felt compelled to cheat in order to keep up with the rest of my classmates.

It's unfortunate, that there are probably some students who felt that way who get grouped in with the 126 students.

However, it's not fair for the actual students putting in the time and effort.

Side note:

MAT135 (Calculus 1) was the most failed course at Rutgers when I was there.
 
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