Omar Manning?

HuskerLove

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You literally called it inside information. Way to back step.
This is what I said - "I'll keep this sort of inside info to myself when he shares it with me".

Sharing 'inside information' does NOT make someone an insider!

Don't put words in my mouth.
 

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This is what I said - "I'll keep this sort of inside info to myself when he shares it with me".

Sharing 'inside information' does NOT make someone an insider!

Don't put words in my mouth.

And you even said "unless his legal name is different" which is exactly what happened. Don't listen to these guys giving you the business.
 

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I’m VERY familiar with ALL of Pelini’s recruiting classes. The last 2 classes? You mean the ones that were sabotaged by Eichorst wanting to fire Bo? Your hatred of Pelini is clouding your little brain. Tell me about the other classes he recruited.
So do you have some kind of a connection with Pelini? If so, that would explain your dumb post and why you talk just like him.
 
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oldjar07

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I’m VERY familiar with ALL of Pelini’s recruiting classes. The last 2 classes? You mean the ones that were sabotaged by Eichorst wanting to fire Bo? Your hatred of Pelini is clouding your little brain. Tell me about the other classes he recruited.
I wouldn't be surprised if Eichorst tried the old no Juco trick with Pelini too. Regardless blaming a guy 5+ years removed from our program for our talent level now has got to be a joke.
 

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I’m VERY familiar with ALL of Pelini’s recruiting classes. The last 2 classes? You mean the ones that were sabotaged by Eichorst wanting to fire Bo? Your hatred of Pelini is clouding your little brain. Tell me about the other classes he recruited.
Melvin Gordon just scored again.
 

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It’s not called hatred when it’s legit facts. The proof is in the pudding my friend. Look at the lack of talent that went through Mike Riley to Scott Frost. That falls squarely on Bo Pelini. Simply put, he was a horrible recruiter.
Why his teams and esp his Defense got worse without Billy C’s recruits...,
 

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Or maybe because you need more than one really good player to be a really good defense.
We had other NFL players on those teams too. Gomes, Hagg, Prince, Dennard all were nobodies coming out of high school, but the best assistant coach we've had in decades, Marvin Sanders turned them all into complete studs. When Bo lost Sanders and even Carl, and replaced them with mediocre assistants, our defense fell off a cliff even though we had first round NFL talents in David and Gregory.
 

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Because he lost his best coaches. We had Lavonte David or Randy Gregory on those defenses and were still mediocre.
Come on man Billy C sucked @ DONU but dude could recruit
Because he lost his best coaches. We had Lavonte David or Randy Gregory on those defenses and were still mediocre.
Please don't even compare any of his Defenses to the one he had Suh's Senior
We had other NFL players on those teams too. Gomes, Hagg, Prince, Dennard all were nobodies coming out of high school, but the best assistant coach we've had in decades, Marvin Sanders turned them all into complete studs. When Bo lost Sanders and even Carl, and replaced them with mediocre assistants, our defense fell off a cliff even though we had first round NFL talents in David and Gregory.
Assistants recruit too, that also fell off a cliff...
 

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Great coached show immediate improvement.

You can make all the excuses you want.

Because their coaching makes a difference until they get their players

Watched it for 40 years in basketball and football.
 

oldjar07

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Come on man Billy C sucked @ DONU but dude could recruit

Please don't even compare any of his Defenses to the one he had Suh's Senior

Assistants recruit too, that also fell off a cliff...
Yet we still got guys like David and Gregory under Pelini. Gregory didn't make our secondary look any better. We had a great D-line and a great secondary in 2009. The coaching is what fell off a cliff, as Pelini lost good or great assistants and replaced them with mediocre ones.
 

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Yet we still got guys like David and Gregory under Pelini. Gregory didn't make our secondary look any better. We had a great D-line and a great secondary in 2009. The coaching is what fell off a cliff, as Pelini lost good or great assistants and replaced them with mediocre ones.
You mean HS golf coaches don’t make good D1 FB coaches?
 

HuskerLove

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Is that insider talk?

I’ll edit to add, I’m mostly joking with you, but between the dumb rumors on Fleming & Manning, it’s gotten very old.
If they're getting old then simply ignore them.

Unfortunately this is what we do on here, we talk about Husker football and the rumors surrounding our team. As I've said, I'm no insider so all I've got are 'rumors' until someone who is an actual insider (ie. someone with real hooks into the program) tells us common-folk otherwise.
 
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Are we seriously re-litigating the Pelini era on this thread? Nothing fell off a cliff with Bo. We were the same team, a four loss team, every single season. Each season's team had its own weird weakness and strength... but it was the same result every year
 

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Great coached show immediate improvement.

You can make all the excuses you want.

Because their coaching makes a difference until they get their players

Watched it for 40 years in basketball and football.
Every situation is different. Some coaches are in a situation to win right away much more than others. Frost first season our record was not any better, but we played much better than the previous season, especially at the end of the year. Then there is a guy like Brady Hoke who won early, but turned out not to be a good coach at all. Making lemonade out of someone else’s lemons is great and all, but it is hardly the true measure of a good coach. Your 40 years of watching basketball and football should have taught you that there are a lot of factors that go into winning. Things like schedule and roster are huge factors and acknowledging that isn’t making excuses, it is living in reality.
 
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Every situation is different. Some coaches are in a situation to win right away much more than others. Frost first season our record was not any better, but we played much better than the previous season, especially at the end of the year. Then there is a guy like Brady Hoke who won early, but turned out not to be a good coach at all. Making lemonade out of someone else’s lemons is great and all, but it is hardly the true measure of a good coach. Your 40 years of watching basketball and football should have taught you that there are a lot of factors that go into winning. Things like schedule and roster are huge factors and acknowledging that isn’t making excuses, it is living in reality.

All the great coaches improve no.matter the situation.

Good coaches need time.
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oldjar07

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All the great coaches improve no.matter the situation.

Good coaches need time.
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Yep, great and even some good coaches have taken over situations worse than ours and produced national championship caliber teams in just 2 or 3 years. It's extremely unlikely that a coach has as bad of years as Frost did in years 1 and 2, and goes on to become a great coach. I'm still holding out hope that it happens, but it's looking much more likely that Frost ends up just a good, mediocre, or even a bad coach. I think Frost can be a good coach for sure, but it needs to show up on the field starting this year.
 

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Yep, great and even some good coaches have taken over situations worse than ours and produced national championship caliber teams in just 2 or 3 years. It's extremely unlikely that a coach has as bad of years as Frost did in years 1 and 2, and goes on to become a great coach. I'm still holding out hope that it happens, but it's looking much more likely that Frost ends up just a good, mediocre, or even a bad coach. I think Frost can be a good coach for sure, but it needs to show up on the field starting this year.
Simply not true. I have given you plenty of examples of coaches that took time to turn around programs or get over the hump. Why don’t you show us some examples of coaches you think took over situations worse than ours and won National Championships in 2 or 3 years. Hint there aren’t ANY. Stoops was about the only one close and that team was loaded with talent from Blake’s um “questionable” recruiting tactics.
 
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hope Manning is available but

coach Frost has recruited 15 WRs including 6 - 4 stars + inherited a 2017 all big ten freshman WR and freshman all american

we should be absolutely loaded at this position - Manning would be nice this year but certainly shouldn't be necessary

Why are you here? The political stuff, ok, but if you're a Pelini guzzler... I think UNL decision panned out, of you followed his career in Ohio.

He has already set records in the SEC, and he will be fired. I'm not going to explain. They will lose at least three more games, and will be viewed as uncompetitive in the SEC west. It's so boring it's dull.
 

oldjar07

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Simply not true. I have given you plenty of examples of coaches that took time to turn around programs or get over the hump. Why don’t you show us some examples of coaches you think took over situations worse than ours and won National Championships in 2 or 3 years. Hint there aren’t ANY. Stoops was about the only one close and that team was loaded with talent from Blake’s um “questionable” recruiting tactics.
Bob Stoops, Urban Meyer at Florida and Ohio State, Nick Saban, Pete Carroll.
 

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Bob Stoops, Urban Meyer at Florida and Ohio State, Nick Saban, Pete Carroll.
Not one of those was even close to being a situation “worse than ours”. Not even in the same Universe. The Ohio State program that had finished in the Top 10 six of the seven seasons prior to Urban Meyer taking the job was in worse shape than Nebraska before Frost got to town?? Wow, talk about not having a clue