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Airport

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Why not push to stop the Russian women coming over here and spitting out babies in Florida? But that is still not following the constitution.
The baby here, being a citizen was set up for slaves. It should end today
 

spartansstink

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and these white supremacist groups are just filthy pigs.

Really no different than any other "hate group" out there. Whether that be ANTIFA or whomever.

But, you don't try to drive them into the shadows. That's how they grow. They get the uneducated and the marginalized, pepper them with propaganda, and create an "us versus them" mentality while simultaneously telling them they are special and different.

That's how you get a Klansman. That's how you get an ANTIFA. That's how you get a MAGA. That's how you get a Socialist.

It's what the Klan has been doing for decades. It's what the left does in our "institutions of higher learning" today and for the past couple of decades.

The only answer is to bring them and their ideas into the light. Let them have a stage to express their crazy views then tear them to shreds with logic and principled arguments.
 

wvjeff

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So?

He's free to express his opinions, too. He's an American and has the same rights as the rest of us. Even though the left hates him for it.

When he starts taking action about it let me know.
If the US Government designates a group a terrorist organization......I think they can probably try to get rid of them.....maybe I'm wrong.
 

Airport

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so you take parts out of the Constitution when they no longer matter.....I missed that in school.
It was put in for one specific group of people to make sure they were considered citizens. There's nothing wrong with thinking that maybe the framers were correct the first time. More specifically, it was put in there to make sure slaves were not disenfranchised. Coming here just to have a baby is fraud.
 

dave

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So much crying in this thread by weak minded pussies. If you cant handle people who disagree with you go somewhere else. Its not that difficult.
 

wvjeff

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It was put in for one specific group of people to make sure they were considered citizens. There's nothing wrong with thinking that maybe the framers were correct the first time. More specifically, it was put in there to make sure slaves were not disenfranchised. Coming here just to have a baby is fraud.
just like SCOTUS will save the day for Trump.....we can let SCOTUS decide that.
 

wvjeff

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So much crying in this thread by weak minded pussies. If you cant handle people who disagree with you go somewhere else. Its not that difficult.
Dave, is that just for the left or everyone.?...lol
 

Airport

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just like SCOTUS will save the day for Trump.....we can let SCOTUS decide that.
You have not heard me saying SCOTUS will do anything. There has been talk about challenging that part of the constitution. I would have no problem with that being reversed. It's a huge loop hole that should be closed.
 

wvjeff

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You have not heard me saying SCOTUS will do anything. There has been talk about challenging that part of the constitution. I would have no problem with that being reversed. It's a huge loop hole that should be closed.
and repeal is the only thing that will work. It will never happen unless there is a big immigration package. So, we both know that repeal will never happen....lol.
 

spartansstink

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In actuality the 14th Amendment states that all people, "born or naturalized..." are citizens.

The process for naturalization is clearly spelled out.

If one comes here willing to go through the process of naturalization to become a citizen then great. All the best to them.

If not - they have to go. Simple as that.

Follow the rules or leave.
 

spartansstink

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If the US Government designates a group a terrorist organization......I think they can probably try to get rid of them.....maybe I'm wrong.

Depends upon whether you're talking about foreign or domestic.

For domestic terrorists, the 5th Amendment still applies. They have due process rights that cannot be denied them.
 

WVU82_rivals

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spartansstink

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just like SCOTUS will save the day for Trump.....we can let SCOTUS decide that.

Actually, we can't. SCOTUS has no right to judicial review for this.

The only way to repeal the 14th Amendment is to create a 28th one. That will never happen in this case.
 
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Well, it’s all certainly protected speech, so, arguing against it, is kind of arguing against the constitution. Hate speech is protected.

Nah, not all hate speech is protected. Election officials are being threatened and harassed and intimidated. They have had voicemails left on their home phones threatening to hang nooses and burning crosses in their yards. That is from your side, “who aren’t racists.”
 

CAJUNEER_rivals

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This posted at 11:08 am today...
Guys, this board has really gone to **** and I'll admit I am part of the problem. We no longer discuss/debate ideas, concepts, etc. We call each other names and make personal attacks. I won't point the finger at anyone else. I have noticed a lot of posters have really cut back on their postings and some have not been posting at all. I suspect it is because the garbage they see on this board. Again, I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, I'll take responsibility for my actions.

I'm willing to take a different approach at posting and be more "civil," post less name calling and personal attacks. Are others willing to try to make a change?

Followed by this at 12:33 today...
Getting reamed? LOL! Oh sweetie, you have never mustered a decent attack on anyone on this board. Rifle was on this board off and on for about a week when he posted the pic of your car on blocks and your junky garage with **** piled to the ceiling. And he posted that dorky pic of you in those kid's eyeglasses. You got so abused and pissed, you were threatening to get law enforcement relatives involved. LOL! If I remember correctly, either cpeer or malew1 was also here watching you get humiliated right in front of the whole board to see. I mean you were absolutely destroyed. You got so mad you left the board for a couple of days. LMAO! Right after that is when Gunny started posting on the board. Coincidence? LOL! You have been busted in so much ****, stupidity and lies. You claimed to be a civil engineer. Then you claimed to be a different type of engineer but wouldn't state which type. You claimed singers "where" earplugs so they don't hear their echo. LMAO! I mean you really say some stupid ****. It's hilarious.

So much for an olive branch.
 

mule_eer

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Guys, this board has really gone to **** and I'll admit I am part of the problem. We no longer discuss/debate ideas, concepts, etc. We call each other names and make personal attacks. I won't point the finger at anyone else. I have noticed a lot of posters have really cut back on their postings and some have not been posting at all. I suspect it is because the garbage they see on this board. Again, I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, I'll take responsibility for my actions.

I'm willing to take a different approach at posting and be more "civil," post less name calling and personal attacks. Are others willing to try to make a change?
You only control your own actions. If you want to be more civil, be more civil. This is just a message board. If someone calls you a name, who cares, thicken your skin. If it really bothers you when that happens, you probably need to take a break from it anyway.
 

dedhoops24

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You enable and support exactly what Kazzman communicated. You’re complicit. Either you’re too inexperienced at politics, oblivious, or intentionally self absorbed lacking awareness or empathy toward discriminated groups.

I honest don’t care what your deficiency is, but it’s clear you have a massive deficiency.

It is a personality trait and is reflective of many men who identify as conservative. They see “a victim mentality” as weakness and as a defect which renders those people as useless or users. They are incapable of understanding that people needing help or support or an opportunity is something that should be earned and never given....

2020 has proven this beyond a shadow of a doubt for me personally......
 

CAJUNEER_rivals

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This isn’t your untenured classroom, professor. You’re as complicit and maga evil as they come.
I know you went to a state school, so you may be unaware classrooms are neither tenured nor untenured. Further, you're probably unaware that untenured means without a permanent position. You'd be wise not to speak of tenure since you obviously know nothing about it.
 
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It is a personality trait and is reflective of many men who identify as conservative. They see “a victim mentality” as weakness and as a defect which renders those people as useless or users. They are incapable of understanding that people needing help or support or an opportunity is something that should be earned and never given....

2020 has proven this beyond a shadow of a doubt for me personally......

Protecting , Uplifting, and Championing the plight of those who’s voices are marginalized exploited or attacked is precisely why I’m an unapologetic liberal/democrat.
I use my equity not for self preservation but to ensure my life is spent implementing generational and moral fairness and equality. I’m on the correct side of morality. I know this.
 
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You only control your own actions. If you want to be more civil, be more civil. This is just a message board. If someone calls you a name, who cares, thicken your skin. If it really bothers you when that happens, you probably need to take a break from it anyway.

Nothing said on this board bothers me, personally. I could not care less what anyone thinks about me.

What I was hoping to accomplish was some reduction of the name calling in general and the personal attacks of people in general. You are assuming my post was made from a personal standpoint. It is not. I just get tired of the stupid, mindless, ********. I’ve had 2007 on ignore for several months now. I don’t want to see the mindless, “you’re a homo, you’re a racist,” etc. It adds nothing to the board, is childish and just takes up space and everyone on the board knows it is never true. Bot82 has been on ignore for years now.

But, I received the answer loud and clear. And that’s fine. Several posters will go on ignore. Several posters are as sane as Jeffrey Dahmer.

It’s cool. Carry on.
 
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Protecting , Uplifting, and Championing the plight of those who’s voices are marginalized exploited or attacked is precisely why I’m an unapologetic liberal/democrat.
I use my equity not for self preservation but to ensure my life is spent implementing generational and moral fairness and equality. I’m on the correct side of morality. I know this.

^^^^^^^This^^^^^^

One of the hallmarks of liberalism, and makes me swell with pride, is the ideology of fairness, inclusion, looking out for the disadvantaged and those taken advantage of, standing against bigotry, injustice, discrimination and a general care for the well being of others.

Healthcare in this country is one of those issues that shines a huge light on whether you truly care about the health and well being of your fellow man or you are a piece of **** trumper who doesn’t care that people die in this country simply because they can’t afford health care.
 

mule_eer

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Nothing said on this board bothers me, personally. I could not care less what anyone thinks about me.

What I was hoping to accomplish was some reduction of the name calling in general and the personal attacks of people in general. You are assuming my post was made from a personal standpoint. It is not. I just get tired of the stupid, mindless, ********. I’ve had 2007 on ignore for several months now. I don’t want to see the mindless, “you’re a homo, you’re a racist,” etc. It adds nothing to the board, is childish and just takes up space and everyone on the board knows it is never true. Bot82 has been on ignore for years now.

But, I received the answer loud and clear. And that’s fine. Several posters will go on ignore. Several posters are as sane as Jeffrey Dahmer.

It’s cool. Carry on.
My point stands. If you want a more civil board, be a more civil participant. If you that means you ignore some posters, have at it. The old adage is true: Never wrestle with a pig. You'll both get dirty, and the pig likes it. I think more than a few folks on here post attacks because they get some enjoyment out of it. If that's you or anyone else, that's cool. How you react to it is all you or any individual poster can control.
 

CAJUNEER_rivals

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My point stands. If you want a more civil board, be a more civil participant. If you that means you ignore some posters, have at it. The old adage is true: Never wrestle with a pig. You'll both get dirty, and the pig likes it. I think more than a few folks on here post attacks because they get some enjoyment out of it. If that's you or anyone else, that's cool. How you react to it is all you or any individual poster can control.
Well said.
 

oceantide83

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Protecting , Uplifting, and Championing the plight of those who’s voices are marginalized exploited or attacked is precisely why I’m an unapologetic liberal/democrat.
I use my equity not for self preservation but to ensure my life is spent implementing generational and moral fairness and equality. I’m on the correct side of morality. I know this.
How many poor and/or illegal immigrants have you invited to come live with you? How many have you donated to? How many have you done anything at all for, exactly? A government which relies on robbing Peter to pay Paul is still robbing and immoral, which is what you support. Don't talk about moral fairness and equality as you obviously have no clue what they are about.
 

spartansstink

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It is a personality trait and is reflective of many men who identify as conservative. They see “a victim mentality” as weakness and as a defect which renders those people as useless or users. They are incapable of understanding that people needing help or support or an opportunity is something that should be earned and never given....

2020 has proven this beyond a shadow of a doubt for me personally......

I could really attack this argument a couple of different ways...

First, let's go with WHO does the rendering of this help/support/opportunity.

Since the 60's, the who has been assumed by the government, who is an uncaring, unfeeling entity. It simply "gives" and has, at this point, created a system of generational poverty and dependency. To the point that it eats up a large percentage of the yearly budget that therefore could be used to benefit more people if it went to roads, etc.

Put it back into the hands of the family/community and then things would change. This is what conservatives want to see happen. If Joe Smoe doesn't want to work after family and friends have helped, then Joe Smoe can starve or freeze. When a deadline is put into place, people tend to start getting motivated. When it isn't... they aren't.

Second, the term "given" is problematic. Suppose you're hungry. I give you a something to eat. We both go away feeling better. However, tomorrow you're back to being hungry again. If I give you something without any conditions, the problem is fixed only temporarily. If I show you the way to get the food for yourself, then turn you loose to get it, we both win. This is what conservatives try to do. Sadly, they often get crucified for being unfeeling for doing so by those who depend upon the downtrodden staying downtrodden.
 
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I know you went to a state school, so you may be unaware classrooms are neither tenured nor untenured. Further, you're probably unaware that untenured means without a permanent position. You'd be wise not to speak of tenure since you obviously know nothing about it.

No lesson needed.
i am aware you are un tenured. Luckily , you may qualify for the ACA since your income as untenured part or full time professor without health benefits..
Nothing said on this board bothers me, personally. I could not care less what anyone thinks about me.

What I was hoping to accomplish was some reduction of the name calling in general and the personal attacks of people in general. You are assuming my post was made from a personal standpoint. It is not. I just get tired of the stupid, mindless, ********. I’ve had 2007 on ignore for several months now. I don’t want to see the mindless, “you’re a homo, you’re a racist,” etc. It adds nothing to the board, is childish and just takes up space and everyone on the board knows it is never true. Bot82 has been on ignore for years now.

But, I received the answer loud and clear. And that’s fine. Several posters will go on ignore. Several posters are as sane as Jeffrey Dahmer.

It’s cool. Carry on.

Ignoring 4-5 posters has ushered a “heightened” conversation. I commend you for the post. These same posters who hijacked this thread are same posters the mod and correlated posters email conducting hit jobs on Democrats circulating information- some information unlawfully obtained.

case in point. It was fine in last month for the Maga monkeys to insult me with personal information when they weren’t part of the board a decade ago. How did these posters know of details 10 -15 years ago with detailed veracity?

mod was part of the production of those hit jobs. He always has operated cowardly- pin and off this board.
Turn about is fair game, right?

Then I rehashed a story Tarhreel posted on hi s own accord.(weddinggate) What happens? Canjun and other peripheral maga monkey goons appear - including Cajun posting my business operations zip code before deleting it threatening me to shut up that Tar Heel is off limits and has a stockpile of information.

simply put, the Maga monkeys want to control the agenda, tone , and narrative of board . Until Tar Heel resigns this board will never be objective or fair.