Ok I'll say it....

Rupp'sRunt

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If this is the type of roster were looking at for years to come I'd rather have Rick Pitino than Cal. Unpopular opinion around here I'm sure but Rick is probably one of the best coaches I've ever seen. If Cal goes another not so good season I feel the tide will start to turn on him ala tubby and BCG. It's truly hardy or bust hes the only player that could change this team from pretender to contender at this point. Cal not making changes at assistants will he make changes to his coaching philosophy? Probably not, but I dont blame those who have hope. I too used to defend Cal as had as nails, its become too much at this point. You cant say "UK eats first" and were the "Gold Standard" or "Envy our past fear our future" with these classes. Cal missed on at least 2 national championship wins imo. Man I hope he turns it around this year I just don't see it. For those saying "Wait til the class is finished" This isn't like adding Jamal Murray or Herro or Knox theres no real 5* splash outside of Hardy. That class is done. Transfers are a supplement not an answer. We'll see what product Cal puts out next year. I wish him the best.
 

Fannin12

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If this is the type of roster were looking at for years to come I'd rather have Rick Pitino than Cal. Unpopular opinion around here I'm sure but Rick is probably one of the best coaches I've ever seen. If Cal goes another not so good season I feel the tide will start to turn on him ala tubby and BCG. It's truly hardy or bust hes the only player that could change this team from pretender to contender at this point. Cal not making changes at assistants will he make changes to his coaching philosophy? Probably not, but I dont blame those who have hope. I too used to defend Cal as had as nails, its become too much at this point. You cant say "UK eats first" and were the "Gold Standard" or "Envy our past fear our future" with these classes. Cal missed on at least 2 national championship wins imo. Man I hope he turns it around this year I just don't see it. For those saying "Wait til the class is finished" This isn't like adding Jamal Murray or Herro or Knox theres no real 5* splash outside of Hardy. That class is done. Transfers are a supplement not an answer. We'll see what product Cal puts out next year. I wish him the best.
Why are you so angry?
 
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Rupp'sRunt

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Why are you so angry?
Lol you got angry from this? I get its a sad time to be a UK fan. This next season looks less than promising at this point.
How many crybaby threads is OP going to start?
How many "we will return to greatness next year" post will you make until its untrue? Im an optimist but I just dont see it. Its my opinion. You have yours.
 

UKfan2151

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College basketball is such a mess these days, sometimes I think it might be best just to stop following it altogether. As if this one and done crap wasn't bad enough, now we've added the transfer circus where basically every kid is a free agent if he wants to be. How is any coach going to be able to build and maintain a roster with this level of chaos? Good teams faced the risk of losing talented starters to the draft. Now they have to worry about also losing their reserves to the portal. It makes planning ahead very difficult. You could be a championship contender one year and a complete dumpster fire the next. The days of being a "dynasty", where a particular team is really good year after year are over, for anyone.
 

Fannin12

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Lol you got angry from this? I get its a sad time to be a UK fan. This next season looks less than promising at this point.

How many "we will return to greatness next year" post will you make until its untrue? Im an optimist but I just dont see it. Its my opinion. You have yours.
Life goes on! I heard today Askew may change his mind yet again and ride it out!
 

MakinMusic_rivals

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I’m a Fan of Pitino’s coaching for sure. Always have been......He’s a hard assed, loud SOB too.

That said, Pitino would be recruiting the best players he could get too. The coaches that can land the best, go after the best. So that wouldn’t change much, in my opinion.
 

Rupp'sRunt

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I’m a Fan of Pitino’s coaching for sure. Always have been......He’s a hard assed, loud SOB too.

That said, Pitino would be recruiting the best players he could get too. The coaches that can land the best, go after the best. So that wouldn’t change much, in my opinion.
Except Pitino has proven he can take 3* and below talent into much better form than Cal. Idk if Cal has what it takes to coach anymore. Idt he even cares at this point hes made in the shade in terms of contract im sure he feels hes "earned an easy ride" well losing at UK is never easy.
 
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BBCoach22

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There’s a major shift going on in college basketball. It started with Peterson at Washington on the football side where he said he didn’t like the way the game was trending and how dirty recruiting was going.

Combine that with Roy hitting the retirement home because of roster instability and Cal and K have huge down years. On the juco side of things, Steve Eck (Hutch) and Steve Green (South Plains) are fixing to get out of the game. Eck is rumored to retire and Green rumored to take an administrative position on Mark Adams staff at Texas Tech. Those two are juco legends.

The NCAA better figure out what direction it’s going to go in especially with the NIL and transfer rules or it’s going to watch its product ultimately die.
 

Rupp'sRunt

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I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I like the idea of Askew coming back. I don't think he'd be the starter (if he would then I'm not sure why he thought about transferring) and if we can get him for 2-3 more years he could be a very solid player
Probably should've had that train of thought with Johnny. Idt askew would add much to any college team tbh I hav him way under players like Baker, Juzang and wiltjer.
 

Rupp'sRunt

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There’s a major shift going on in college basketball. It started with Peterson at Washington on the football side where he said he didn’t like the way the game was trending and how dirty recruiting was going.

Combine that with Roy hitting the retirement home because of roster instability and Cal and K have huge down years. On the juco side of things, Steve Eck (Hutch) and Steve Green (South Plains) are fixing to get out of the game. Eck is rumored to retire and Green rumored to take an administrative position on Mark Adams staff at Texas Tech. Those two are juco legends.

The NCAA better figure out what direction it’s going to go in especially with the NIL and transfer rules or it’s going to watch its product ultimately die.
Totally agree with this. I still believe the G-leauge won't gain traction ppl think it will but it is what it is at this moment.
 

MakinMusic_rivals

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Except Pitino has proven he can take 3* and below talent into much better form than Cal. Idk if Cal has what it takes to coach anymore. Idt he even cares at this point hes made in the shade in terms of contract im sure he feels hes "earned an easy ride" well losing at UK is never easy.

I hear you and obviously can’t say for sure. I don’t believe he’s lost it. High level performers don’t generally “lose it.” They may get off track but they usually get back on with some mentors and tough love. I don’t believe most high level performers get comfortable with money and stop driving hard. At some point (doesn’t take as much as one might think), it’s not about the money any more. It’s about the competitive nature.
 
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RunninRichie

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College basketball is such a mess these days, sometimes I think it might be best just to stop following it altogether. As if this one and done crap wasn't bad enough, now we've added the transfer circus where basically every kid is a free agent if he wants to be. How is any coach going to be able to build and maintain a roster with this level of chaos? Good teams faced the risk of losing talented starters to the draft. Now they have to worry about also losing their reserves to the portal. It makes planning ahead very difficult. You could be a championship contender one year and a complete dumpster fire the next. The days of being a "dynasty", where a particular team is really good year after year are over, for anyone.
can’t stop following UK
 

kb22stang

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Probably should've had that train of thought with Johnny. Idt askew would add much to any college team tbh I hav him way under players like Baker, Juzang and wiltjer.

I never want a shooter to transfer, but I'm not in the camp that blamed Cal for Juzang. Wilt was a terrible fit for the scheme and I wasn't terribly upset that he left TBH. Baker is more of a mystery, but I think he would have been better off staying at UK than going to AZ only to transfer again. Some of these kids just don't seem to think they should have to work for their minutes IMHO.
 

Wildcats1st

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Lol you got angry from this? I get its a sad time to be a UK fan. This next season looks less than promising at this point.

How many "we will return to greatness next year" post will you make until its untrue? Im an optimist but I just dont see it. Its my opinion. You have yours.

im with you dude. Season ended a month ago and nothing positive has happened. No steps in any direction. By this time stoops had fired Eddie gran which is the equivalent of firing two assistants on this staff. This after the worst season in our lifetimes cal keeps chugging along. Cal has grown stale. I idk if he even knows what to do. I’d take pitino in a heartbeat. Hes probably got 7 good years left and would win a title in 3 years. We have a reject ad who cannot hold people to account. He gives extensions but can’t reprimand or demand change. As a matter of fact I think Barney owes us an explanation for why there are no changes being made. Him and cal should have been held to the fire to have a presser in which they take some tough questions. What’s happening with UK basketball right now is akin to playing with fire. It’s like cal has some dirt on Barney.

the program is on the verge of becoming full blown disfunctional. We have these stupid rumors of “reaching out”. Justus and barbee should be gone tomorrow. Barney should join them. I think as UK fans we deserve an explanation and a roadmap of how it’s gonna get fixed. Not these vague statements that cal makes that do not match his actions.
 

kl40504_rivals

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If this is the type of roster were looking at for years to come I'd rather have Rick Pitino than Cal. Unpopular opinion around here I'm sure but Rick is probably one of the best coaches I've ever seen. If Cal goes another not so good season I feel the tide will start to turn on him ala tubby and BCG. It's truly hardy or bust hes the only player that could change this team from pretender to contender at this point. Cal not making changes at assistants will he make changes to his coaching philosophy? Probably not, but I dont blame those who have hope. I too used to defend Cal as had as nails, its become too much at this point. You cant say "UK eats first" and were the "Gold Standard" or "Envy our past fear our future" with these classes. Cal missed on at least 2 national championship wins imo. Man I hope he turns it around this year I just don't see it. For those saying "Wait til the class is finished" This isn't like adding Jamal Murray or Herro or Knox theres no real 5* splash outside of Hardy. That class is done. Transfers are a supplement not an answer. We'll see what product Cal puts out next year. I wish him the best.
Pitino sucks. He was at Louisville 16 years and zero titles. He lost over 80% of the time to Cal and UK including twice in the NCAA tournament when it really counts. He is a proven cheater and was fired at Louisville for his program providing prostitutes to minors and paying recruits. So how many championships did Pitino miss on in 16 years at Louisville? How about 16. If you think he is one of the best coaches you have seen then why did he not do anything at Louisville? He also gave the middle finger to UK fans after losing to Cal at Rupp. Nice hero you have there.
 

kl40504_rivals

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Lol you got angry from this? I get its a sad time to be a UK fan. This next season looks less than promising at this point.

How many "we will return to greatness next year" post will you make until its untrue? Im an optimist but I just dont see it. Its my opinion. You have yours.
You are always angry. You need to get a life before you have a heart attack.
 

Rupp'sRunt

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Pitino sucks. He was at Louisville 16 years and zero titles. He lost over 80% of the time to Cal and UK including twice in the NCAA tournament when it really counts. He is a proven cheater and was fired at Louisville for his program providing prostitutes to minors and paying recruits. So how many championships did Pitino miss on in 16 years at Louisville? How about 16. If you think he is one of the best coaches you have seen then why did he not do anything at Louisville? He also gave the middle finger to UK fans after losing to Cal at Rupp. Nice hero you have there.
Pitino made the tourney at Iona and cal didn't. Really all you need to know.
 
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Rupp'sRunt

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You are always angry. You need to get a life before you have a heart attack.
Lol ppl like you telling me I'll have a heart attack? I stopped watching UK all of last year. Couldn't stomach the product. If Cal does the same as last year hes going to have a hell of a time in Rupp. UK coaches need to win, not "try hard"
 
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MakinMusic_rivals

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im with you dude. Season ended a month ago and nothing positive has happened. No steps in any direction. By this time stoops had fired Eddie gran which is the equivalent of firing two assistants on this staff. This after the worst season in our lifetimes cal keeps chugging along. Cal has grown stale. I idk if he even knows what to do. I’d take pitino in a heartbeat. Hes probably got 7 good years left and would win a title in 3 years. We have a reject ad who cannot hold people to account. He gives extensions but can’t reprimand or demand change. As a matter of fact I think Barney owes us an explanation for why there are no changes being made. Him and cal should have been held to the fire to have a presser in which they take some tough questions. What’s happening with UK basketball right now is akin to playing with fire. It’s like cal has some dirt on Barney.

the program is on the verge of becoming full blown disfunctional. We have these stupid rumors of “reaching out”. Justus and barbee should be gone tomorrow. Barney should join them. I think as UK fans we deserve an explanation and a roadmap of how it’s gonna get fixed. Not these vague statements that cal makes that do not match his actions.

Who knows.....you may be on to something with the Barnhart dirt thing. I think the more likely scenario is Calipari is a power play guy. Barnhart or frankly any AD has to let a guy like that work without a bunch of handholding BS.
 

kl40504_rivals

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It is better for both UK and you if you quit watching. You put too much emphasis on UK basketball. If UK wins a title this year will your life be much better? Will you get more money in your check. Will your family get a new home or a new car. I learned to not worry about something I have no control over. Life is too short to let college basketball take over your life. I want you to be happy and not depressed all the time.
 
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so_obvious

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Lol you got angry from this? I get its a sad time to be a UK fan. This next season looks less than promising at this point.

How many "we will return to greatness next year" post will you make until its untrue? Im an optimist but I just dont see it. Its my opinion. You have yours.

You’re an optimist? And want Pitino? LOL

I have no quarrels with you at all but to put the blinders on to all the **** Pitino wakes in is crazy. No matter how good of a coach he is he is that much worse a human being.

****and I will always like Pitino for what he did here..... and for leaving UL in a dumpster fire.
 
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kl40504_rivals

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Pitino made the tourney at Iona and cal didn't. Really all you need to know.
Sure. Way to spin it. Glad your hero is Pitino. He needs some love the way he has been treated by Louisville and the NCAA. Totally innocent man. The 15 seconds he spent cheating on his wife at an Italian restaurant in Louisville didn't really happen. Being a catholic he must have never paid for an abortion for that same lady. Just a fine man and coach.
 

Fawrules

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Pitino made the tourney at Iona and cal didn't. Really all you need to know.

People always seem to gloss over the little fact that Iona had also made the last four NCAA Tournaments before the one with Pitino this year.

Pitino's had an all time great coaching career, no doubt.
But it's not like he took over a team that was trash and made them a tournament team.
He just won the MAAC Conference Tournament, as Iona had already done four times in a row before he got there.
 

ShadowFromHomewardBound

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How many crybaby threads is OP going to start?

You tell us? Everyone remembers you constantly menstruating and bashing the coach and players relentlessly up until this year. Everyone remembers. You’re a fraud.

also? It’s a warranted critique. Try engaging and offering a dialogue instead of tired and weak throwaway sentences. Do better.
 
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