so you are... hehe.. chicken shitting out of the bet?... cuz you KNOW you'll be the one eating an actual crow
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I can't see how anyone could think ( realistically) Rutgers will improve enough in year 2 of the 2nd Schiano era to go bowling.
My guess is year 4 might be reasonable to get to becoming bowl eligible, but this team needs a heck of a lot more talent on the roster to even expect a 6-6 record in 2023.
Hopefully I'm being to pessimistic, but can't see such a quick turnaround that in Greg's second year he'll have the team bowl bound.
I see another one safely can be ignored...so you are... hehe.. chicken shitting out of the bet?... cuz you KNOW you'll be the one eating an actual crow
CAWWW CAWWWW
It took Greg 5 years to get RU to a bowl in 2005. This is a greater challenge to get back to a bowl in our current situation.
I’m all in on Greg 2.0. But if he gets us to 6 wins in 3-4 years it will be an outstanding accomplishment imo.
We’re looking at a complete roster turnover before we bowl again imo. This is not just a few tweaks and getting experienced talent from the portal to get to 6 wins. Greg needs to overhaul the entire FB program that Flood and Ash developed. That will take more than a season or two.
I’m all in on Greg 2.0. But if he gets us to 6 wins in 3-4 years it will be an outstanding accomplishment imo.
We’re looking at a complete roster turnover before we bowl again imo. This is not just a few tweaks and getting experienced talent from the portal to get to 6 wins. Greg needs to overhaul the entire FB program that Flood and Ash developed. That will take more than a season or two.
It took 5 years last time and that’s really the max it should take anybody or they’ll get fired. But in one of his radio interviews iirc he said it can be quicker this time with the use of the portal and such...don’t know about year two but I’ve given examples of teams as bad a record as we have doing it year 1 (Purdue) 2 (WSU, ISU) and year 5 (Duke, IU). WSU, Duke, IU were before the portal.
another one who doesn't have the nuts to take the bet.... sheesh.. and i thought at least SOMEONE by now would take it... is everyone actually scared of eating an actual crow?.. it's like any other bird.. sheesh
simple as this.. pluck feathers, season, smoke for about an hour(skin gets nice and crispy just like any other bird)... tender juicy poultry...
I don’t think anyone needs to eat crow.
we are a family that deeply cares about Rutgers Football
Families don’t always see eye to eye.
But most families rally and sync up in the end.
we are all stronger as an RU Family from going through this process.
IMO some of the guys eating crow are the some of the best posters on these boards. It’s great that they stepped up, but completely unnecessary.
We need to capture this unity and momentum and take Rutgers to new plateaus.
let’s sell out the friggin stadium for multiple games next year!
we are a family that deeply cares about Rutgers Football
Families don’t always see eye to eye.
But most families rally and sync up in the end.
we are all stronger as an RU Family from going through this process.
IMO some of the guys eating crow are the some of the best posters on these boards. It’s great that they stepped up, but completely unnecessary.
We need to capture this unity and momentum and take Rutgers to new plateaus.
let’s sell out the friggin stadium for multiple games next year!
Sorry I respect a lot of what you say and agree with a lot of your posts, but seriously a valid point is bowling in year 2? Really?
Once I see the staff put in place I will give my predictions and to me it really hinges on OC/DC
If we get a QB coach included and some top picks at those coaching spots I think we get 6 wins next year...yes extremely optimistic but I think it can be done
If we get a QB coach included and some top picks at those coaching spots I think we get 6 wins next year...yes extremely optimistic but I think it can be done
I was all in on Schiano as a coach and program builder...mostly because Ash took us to a level I never thought was imaginable and was to the point that i believed only Schiano could get this program and fan base back and back quickly.
Even with that, I was blown away by today, some of the things Schiano said, his presence and energy.
He brought Rutgers football without even making a single recruiting trip, let alone coach a game.
Even with that, I was blown away by today, some of the things Schiano said, his presence and energy.
He brought Rutgers football without even making a single recruiting trip, let alone coach a game.
I am more patient than many so I don't expect to see 6 wins until year 3 or even year 4. We might see it sooner, but I think it will require some really good luck by way of other teams in our conference having bad seasons due to injury or a lot of young players - something along those lines. And we'd have to have really good luck for us injury-wise.
In a way, 2019 was pretty good for RU from an injury standpoint. Not perfect, of course. But pretty good.
Better to eat a little crow now, than to have to eat the whole flock later on!”
I don't think so. I think getting there in year 3 would be a miracle of good fortune. Year 4 is maybe doable but it could be even longer. Lot of work to do and a lot of stuff needs to go right.
But my point wasn't that I agreed w/his expectations. Just that people will have wildly varying expectations and being tolerant of that isn't an unreasonable thing.
My expectations are extremely low for season one. We're just not deep enough in talent to reload and continue to progress season after season. Won't be until year two that I start to look for significant progress throughout the season, in the form of better and better competitiveness.
One way or the other, though, we need to figure out how to get more wins. It's crucial for recruiting. Schiano himself said as much earlier today. Gotta win to recruit, but need to recruit to win.
Disagree. They must eat crow.
we all just finished chopping down our first tree, take a second to pat yourself on the back and laugh at the guys eating crow....
Then we pick up the ax again and start hitting the next tree :CHOP:
Some people underestimate the talent left on this team. There are quality starting LBs and quality depth at LB with players like Fogg, O3, Onyechi, Battle, Maddox-Williams, Jennings, Singleton, etc.and the LBs will look better with a better DL. Even without Blackshear, we still have 3 quality B1G RBs in Pacheco, Kay'ron Adams and Aaron Young. By the end of the year, there was a couple of WRs and DBs that developed last 8 weeks like Melton, Washington, Tre Avery, Izien, and Avery Young struggled but has talent, among others. There is also undeveloped talent at WRs and DBs that will thrive thanks to a new coaching staff. I think the kicking will be fine. DL needs coaching and depth, our DEs would look better with better DTs and the "Jack" or undersized DE will be gone. OL has 2 pieces in Reggie Sutton and Raiqwon O'Neal, the other 3 spots should be up for grabs. QB is such a mystery, we have AS with 13 starts, JLangan with 8 starts, does JLewis stay at TE or go back to QB, Cole Snyder, 2 incoming QBs 2020 or is Schiano going transfer portal. TE needs more than Alaimo. It's an easier turn around than you think with the right pieces in positions of need and other pieces transfer out in positions of too many in the off season and favorable schedule next year.
How exactly would you source this crow? I’ll be honest, it wouldn’t be the weirdest thing I’ve eaten, but I draw the line at roadkill.
The best part of being a contrarian (lite), is that if Greg continues to go 1 and 0, like he did today, we can drench our crow with a healthy helping of oh-so-tasty wins.
A few, including myself, expressed the belief that a Greg redux had the potential to be good, possibly even very good...but we simply wanted the hire to be the result of a true, wide-reaching search. The private and public gyrations of the past two months however, essentially mandated that whomever Rutgers hired, needed to be bigger than the program...to erase any doubts about Rutgers commitment to B1G Football. I believe that Rutgers brass took a huge step in achieving that mandate by hiring Greg.
His speech today was truly epic! He had complete command of the room and hit on all the key points, as noted throughout this thread. I've always appreciated Greg's passion and commitment to excellence, but today he demonstrated a level of emotional intelligence that, if genuine - and I think it is - can catapult him and Rutgers Football to heights never before seen. And, now me and my permagrin are off to slumber. Go RU!!!
A few, including myself, expressed the belief that a Greg redux had the potential to be good, possibly even very good...but we simply wanted the hire to be the result of a true, wide-reaching search. The private and public gyrations of the past two months however, essentially mandated that whomever Rutgers hired, needed to be bigger than the program...to erase any doubts about Rutgers commitment to B1G Football. I believe that Rutgers brass took a huge step in achieving that mandate by hiring Greg.
His speech today was truly epic! He had complete command of the room and hit on all the key points, as noted throughout this thread. I've always appreciated Greg's passion and commitment to excellence, but today he demonstrated a level of emotional intelligence that, if genuine - and I think it is - can catapult him and Rutgers Football to heights never before seen. And, now me and my permagrin are off to slumber. Go RU!!!
I ran out of gas. I... I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locus. It wasn't my fault. I swear to god!
One thing about Greg...you won't see any BS of professors not giving extra credit to players to up a grade...he won;t even to get involved.
Ill take the challenge after year 3, hes behind the 8 ball now with this years class.
From your car's grill to the Weber grill, a little seasoning in between and it will be delicious.
Greg 2.0 is a MUCH better recruiter as a proven commodity now than Greg 1.0. He will have an easier time bringing in talent more quickly. That and I do believe the talent on this roster is better than what he walked into last time means a faster turnaround. If he can get a few lineman in the portal we could get better real fast.
Depth will be a concern but I agree there is some talent. On Oline Krimin is a load and will be a 5th year so we are good at that spot too, hopefully Vretmen and Bowles are ready to contribute and we get 2 transfer OL's to compete. Previlon is a major loss and Venesky was decent too, but as I believe someone said we return 38 of 44 starters so with another year and better coaching we should improve. With Schiano eyeing the transfer portal in advance I expect some OL, DL and QB transfers. Winning four games should be the floor and it is important to show immediate improvement for 2021 recruits.
I agree....the other poster my comment was directed to is one of those posters that have nothing constructive to say and is of no value to the conversation. I put him on ignore so I don’t have to be annoyed by him any longer.
Not for nothing, but if you didn't see how GS was the only choice for Rutgers in this moment then you really have to take stock of your views on......everything.
I have to agree with much of what you said. I'll add that I love everything I'm hearing from him now. This is not the GS I was expecting
Who?
Colorado 4-9 - 3 blowouts, lost 4 games by 7 pts. or less.(played Hawaii thus 13 games)
Purdue 3-9 - 4 blowouts, lost 3 games by 7 pts. or less.
Iowa St. 3-9 - 4 blowouts ,lost 5 games by 7 pts. or less.
Compared to Rutgers
Rutgers 2-10 - 9 blowouts, closest game 14 pts.
I don't see the comparison. Those teams all won more games the year before and had a chance to win even more. They also didn't look like complete **** ups very often. Rutgers didn't even have a chance to win more and looked completely like **** ups the majority of the time.