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Caliknight

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It was awful. We were spread out beyond all belief, and I was still sweating like crazy under my mask, can you imagine what it’s going to be like with 1000 people packed into that place?

BTW - what about the band??!!
 
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N.J. ‘strongly recommends,’ but does not mandate, indoor masks regardless of vaccination status​



A day after federal officials tightened coronavirus mask guidance, Gov. Phil Murphy and the state’s top health official said Wednesday that all people in New Jersey, regardless of vaccination status, are ”strongly recommended” to wear masks indoors in settings where there is “increased risk” — but they stopped short of mandating face coverings again.


They said scenarios with increased risk include:



  • Crowded indoor settings
  • Indoor settings involving activities in close contact with others who may not be fully vaccinated
  • Indoor settings where others’ vaccine status is unknown
  • When an individual is immunocompromised or at increased risk for severe disease

 
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I'm fine if we need to wear a mask but why are they making this announcement now? Things will change for the better or worse by the time the season begins in 4 months.
Because it’s PR 101. What are the headlines today and this week? DELTA DELTA DELTA. NY state has 19,000,000 people and 4 covid deaths on average per day this week lol.

Basically this is holloway always wanting masking just knowing it makes no sense and trying to time up an announcement where at least the lunatics could rationalize it
 

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There is no debate on this. The data are crystal clear. Fauci was operating with incomplete knowledge, as most were last March and after much more data on mask effectiveness became available, he changed his stance on masks. That's science, plus he was trying to avoid running out of masks for medical personnel. If masks didn't work to stop the spread of infectious agents, like viruses and bacteria, why would most doctors wear them when doing surgeries?

You are correct there is no debate and that is the problem. You can’t find more than three studies that says masks are effective beyond stopping 3 or 4% of particles. Not one mask mandate has stopped any sort of spread. Early they could lie but now with the data and the numbers it is clear masks don’t work that well. Every country that was was praised for stopping the spread bully wearing masks was hit hard a month or so later inspire of masks mandates still in place. Gottlieb recently acknowledged this.

If the politicians really wanted people to get vaccinated they would say we are going back to normal life get vaccinated or get sick and move on. Instead they do everything possible to make it appear that vaccines don’t work. Then attack and blame the unvaccinated to try and entice them. If you have ever tried to get a child to do something or sell something to someone then you know this doesnt work. It is actually quite a phenomenon. You have people whose lives were saved with a vaccine and instead of being happy they are furious that others won’t get a vaccine even though it has no bearing on their lives. Just really odd. It would be like rutgers winning the big ten and being made that other teams didn’t play better.
 

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You are correct there is no debate and that is the problem. You can’t find more than three studies that says masks are effective beyond stopping 3 or 4% of particles. Not one mask mandate has stopped any sort of spread. Early they could lie but now with the data and the numbers it is clear masks don’t work that well. Every country that was was praised for stopping the spread bully wearing masks was hit hard a month or so later inspire of masks mandates still in place. Gottlieb recently acknowledged this.

If the politicians really wanted people to get vaccinated they would say we are going back to normal life get vaccinated or get sick and move on. Instead they do everything possible to make it appear that vaccines don’t work. Then attack and blame the unvaccinated to try and entice them. If you have ever tried to get a child to do something or sell something to someone then you know this doesnt work. It is actually quite a phenomenon. You have people whose lives were saved with a vaccine and instead of being happy they are furious that others won’t get a vaccine even though it has no bearing on their lives. Just really odd. It would be like rutgers winning the big ten and being made that other teams didn’t play better.

Pancho gets it.
 

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You are correct there is no debate and that is the problem. You can’t find more than three studies that says masks are effective beyond stopping 3 or 4% of particles. Not one mask mandate has stopped any sort of spread. Early they could lie but now with the data and the numbers it is clear masks don’t work that well. Every country that was was praised for stopping the spread bully wearing masks was hit hard a month or so later inspire of masks mandates still in place. Gottlieb recently acknowledged this.

If the politicians really wanted people to get vaccinated they would say we are going back to normal life get vaccinated or get sick and move on. Instead they do everything possible to make it appear that vaccines don’t work. Then attack and blame the unvaccinated to try and entice them. If you have ever tried to get a child to do something or sell something to someone then you know this doesnt work. It is actually quite a phenomenon. You have people whose lives were saved with a vaccine and instead of being happy they are furious that others won’t get a vaccine even though it has no bearing on their lives. Just really odd. It would be like rutgers winning the big ten and being made that other teams didn’t play better.
The downside of your thesis is letting the virus circulate through the unvaccinated will most likley lead to more variants of which our current vaccines don't provide protection. That then puts the vaccinated again at risk to a potentially more virulent strain.
 

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The downside of your thesis is letting the virus circulate through the unvaccinated will most likley lead to more variants of which our current vaccines don't provide protection. That then puts the vaccinated again at risk to a potentially more virulent strain.
That’s going to happen regardless of mask wearing in the US
 

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So stupid. Not our problem if people choose not to get vaccinated. If hospitals aren’t at capacity, zero restrictions. Period. You can’t literally implement public health measures indefinitely to stop people from getting SICK, lol.
 

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People won’t go along with it. This 16 months of nonsense is over. The last three or four weeks of the mask mandate stores, libraries, doctors offices weren’t enforcing it anymore. The country has had enough. Fans might wear them walking through the gates, but that will be it.
 
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One would imagine this could change as the season approaches based on what it happening. Nobody can guarantee what the situation will look like in November. If the number of cases/deaths is very low, hopefully RU will change policies.
 
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I will be asking for a full refund

Holloway can go **** himself

Note i told you back in March

Another loss for numbers
 
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Because it’s PR 101. What are the headlines today and this week? DELTA DELTA DELTA. NY state has 19,000,000 people and 4 covid deaths on average per day this week lol.

Basically this is holloway always wanting masking just knowing it makes no sense and trying to time up an announcement where at least the lunatics could rationalize it


its fear porn at its worst, deaths are lagging greatly
 
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bac2therac

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I'll take it, but if everyone had gotten vaccinated, we wouldn't have the surging cases from the delta variant and would've been able to have indoor events like this without masks. Sad that we have so many people who don't understand the basic science and risk/reward math associated with the vaccines. Roughly 1000X lower death/hospitalization rates from COVID for those vaccinated vs. unvaccinated and near zero risk from the vaccines (only a few per million with severe side effects, which are usually manageable).


lmfao..i told you
 

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There is no debate on this. The data are crystal clear. Fauci was operating with incomplete knowledge, as most were last March and after much more data on mask effectiveness became available, he changed his stance on masks. That's science, plus he was trying to avoid running out of masks for medical personnel. If masks didn't work to stop the spread of infectious agents, like viruses and bacteria, why would most doctors wear them when doing surgeries?


oh like he told his buddy in an email...take the loss here...masks dont work
 

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data shows they don’t work. Even Fauci said they don’t work.

don’t wanna debate in this thread. So let’s just agree to disagree
FaucI said they don’t work last March when it was thought the virus was transmitted on surfaces. He said if you touched the virus then fiddled with your mask you could get sick. Then it was discovered that the virus is transmitted almost exclusively through the air. Once they learned that he has been 100% in saying masks work. Stop spreading lies.
 

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I think this is bullsh*t. They told me the vaccine works, now they're telling me I have to wear a mask again. I don't give a sh*t about the unvaxed, it's their choice, if they get sick and die that's their choice and I don't care anymore. I did my part for the greater good, it's now time for personal responsibility. Everyone's had the chance to get vaccinated, you can't hold up life for the imbeciles.
 
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HeavenUniv.

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I have season tickets and will go anyway, but sometimes this school goes out of its way to discourage fans from buying tickets.
 

bac2therac

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so apprently Holloway thinks that the virus will be rampant and potential super spreading events...I wonder if the school will be forced to refund now as people may be in fear of going and contracting a virus
 

bac2therac

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FaucI said they don’t work last March when it was thought the virus was transmitted on surfaces. He said if you touched the virus then fiddled with your mask you could get sick. Then it was discovered that the virus is transmitted almost exclusively through the air. Once they learned that he has been 100% in saying masks work. Stop spreading lies.


this is not how he framed it
 

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I think this is bullsh*t. They told me the vaccine works, now they're telling me I have to wear a mask again. I don't give a sh*t about the unvaxed, it's their choice, if they get sick and die that's their choice and I don't care anymore. I did my part for the greater good, it's now time for personal responsibility. Everyone's had the chance to get vaccinated, you can't hold up life for the imbeciles.


well said, I am vaxxed, why do we enable the unvaxxed....hmm
 
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well said, I am vaxxed, why do we enable the unvaxxed....hmm
we shouldn't enable the unvaxxed.
Those of us who are vaxxed should have a "vaccine passport."
The passport allows entry to sporting events, restaurants, theatre, etc. without a mask.
No passport,no entry.
If those who are unvaccinated want to participate in society then they will take responsibility and get the vaccine.
If not, they can stay home.
It works in Israel.
No reason not to do the same here.
 

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Yup. There is Zero rational behind masks at this point. I aint yelling with a mask on for two years, will just watch at a bar in hoboken or from my couch. Ill be back when the masks are gone

This. I am so sick of Hollowoke at this point. And LOL at numbers lecturing everyone how he knows better than everyone on this topic.

The joke will be on you guys for going to an arena and trying to yell with a mask on for three hours.
 
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