Offensive Line Talk On 1620

[The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy]

Listening to 1620 this morning and apparently some on the Offensive Line are upset that others are getting more playing time or starting ahead of them.

I wish EVERYONE on the O-line would put as much worry and focus on blocking the person in front of them during game time.

This group is by far the weakest link of the entire team and can be blamed for the majority of our losses this year. There is no ‘I’ in team!

 

[jeans15]

Listening to 1620 this morning and apparently some on the Offensive Line are upset that others are getting more playing time or starting ahead of them.

I wish EVERYONE on the O-line would put as much worry and focus on blocking the person in front of them during game time.

This group is by far the weakest link of the entire team and can be blamed for the majority of our losses this year. There is no ‘I’ in team!

Not surprised

 

[dinglefritz]

Listening to 1620 this morning and apparently some on the Offensive Line are upset that others are getting more playing time or starting ahead of them.

I wish EVERYONE on the O-line would put as much worry and focus on blocking the person in front of them during game time.

This group is by far the weakest link of the entire team and can be blamed for the majority of our losses this year. There is no ‘I’ in team!

I might be pissed too given the performance of some of the starters. From what I saw in the spring scrimmage there's a guy or two who could help us at guard especially. Tackle, I'm not so sure about. For me, IF I were Frost the next time Farniok false starts he would go to the bench. I've seen enough of Hixson. Give me Raridon, Bando or Forbes at guard. TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT IF YOU KEEP SEEING THE SAME CRAP.

 

[Ewooc]

I might be pissed too given the performance of some of the starters. From what I saw in the spring scrimmage there's a guy or two who could help us at guard especially. Tackle, I'm not so sure about. For me, IF I were Frost the next time Farniok false starts he would go to the bench. I've seen enough of Hixson. Give me Raridon, Bando or Forbes at guard. TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT IF YOU KEEP SEEING THE SAME CRAP.

Yeah as bad as the O line has been, I don't understand the stick with them mentality. They aren't getting better with time. My only though it Frost wants to save guys and be able to RS them for the future. Maybe we will start seeing more the last 4 or 5 games since they could still play in 4 and RS.

 

[Ctlbyr]

Have never understood, why the same people that keep making the same mistakes stay on the field. Trying other people in the line cant get any worse.

 

[HominidHusker]

I hope coaches are able to adequately address playing time issues with explanations that help any player understand why he’s at where he’s at.
Bando getting in at guard over Raridon was interesting.
I feel bad for Jurgens as he’s really been put in a tough spot, but it should pay off down the road.

 

[The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy]

I might be pissed too given the performance of some of the starters. From what I saw in the spring scrimmage there's a guy or two who could help us at guard especially. Tackle, I'm not so sure about. For me, IF I were Frost the next time Farniok false starts he would go to the bench. I've seen enough of Hixson. Give me Raridon, Bando or Forbes at guard. TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT IF YOU KEEP SEEING THE SAME CRAP.

I should’ve added block the person in front of them in practice also. Because they probably are half assing in practice too if it isn’t being done on Saturdays.

Might as well put in the scout team players on game day because there probably isn’t much drop off from the starters. Our O-line is being laughed at week in and week out by opponents. If that doesn’t piss off our O-line, then it should!

 

[dinglefritz]

Have never understood, why the same people that keep making the same mistakes stay on the field. Trying other people in the line cant get any worse.

Well it can get worse BUT at least maybe you sharpen the focus of the guy screwing up if he realizes he's replaceable.

 

[dinglefritz]

I hope coaches are able to adequately address playing time issues with explanations that help any player understand why he’s at where he’s at.
Bando getting in at guard over Raridon was interesting.
I feel bad for Jurgens as he’s really been put in a tough spot, but it should pay off down the road.

Jurgens was probably our lone bright spot at Minnesota. I can see why they want him in there. Jaimes is still probably over all our best lineman. The rest of the guys IMO could get "rests" and it wouldn't hurt us.

 

[BleedRed78]

I might be pissed too given the performance of some of the starters. From what I saw in the spring scrimmage there's a guy or two who could help us at guard especially. Tackle, I'm not so sure about. For me, IF I were Frost the next time Farniok false starts he would go to the bench. I've seen enough of Hixson. Give me Raridon, Bando or Forbes at guard. TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT IF YOU KEEP SEEING THE SAME CRAP.

I'm really wishing Raridon would get put in for Hixon. I thought he looked like one of the best in the spring game, and am wondering at this point what could be so bad to not try him in there?

I've read about various rumors of him being in Frosts dog house, but sheesh... Something needs to give. Especially if we're trying to not burn red shirts on our freshmen, which I agree we must preserve if possible.

 

[dinglefritz]

I'm really wishing Raridon would get put in for Hixon. I thought he looked like one of the best in the spring game, and am wondering at this point what could be so bad to not try him in there?

I've read about various rumors of him being in Frosts dog house, but sheesh... Something needs to give. Especially if we're trying to not burn red shirts on our freshmen, which I agree we must preserve if possible.

One of the issues with hiring "one of your own" is that sometimes you bring baggage with you. Who knows. Raridon definitely doesn't look sculpted so who knows. Lack of work in the weight room? Positive tests? Something doesn't look right with this deal. My suspicion is that he's poorly conditioned yet we've played Damion Daniels.

 

[inWV]

My suspicion is that he's poorly conditioned yet we've played Damion Daniels.

I have no idea of the percentage of snaps played by Damion, but it's probably less than I think it is.

 

[uberism1111]

I'm really wishing Raridon would get put in for Hixon. I thought he looked like one of the best in the spring game, and am wondering at this point what could be so bad to not try him in there?

I've read about various rumors of him being in Frosts dog house, but sheesh... Something needs to give. Especially if we're trying to not burn red shirts on our freshmen, which I agree we must preserve if possible.

Raridon isn't even the next guy up at LG. Can he even bend over to tie his shoes without having to sit down to do it? I'm serious. He came in massively undersized and then got fat and is still undersized. He can't pass block. He struggled at that in high school too.

Sometimes recruiting rankings get things flat out wrong, folks.

It's known that Benhart wants to be playing. No secret there but he is also smart enough to know that earning it will pay off.

 

[dinglefritz]

Raridon isn't even the next guy up at LG. Can he even bend over to tie his shoes without having to sit down to do it? I'm serious. He came in massively undersized and then got fat and is still undersized. He can't pass block. He struggled at that in high school too.

Sometimes recruiting rankings get things flat out wrong, folks.

It's known that Benhart wants to be playing. No secret there but he is also smart enough to know that earning it will pay off.

I realize that Raridon isn't the next guy on the chart and I'm also influenced by his star ranking. BUT what I mainly base wanting to see what he would do in a game by what I saw him do in the spring scrimmage. He looked quick and did his job granted that wasn't against OSU's front .

 

[bshirt73]

Have never understood, why the same people that keep making the same mistakes stay on the field. Trying other people in the line cant get any worse.

What's "really" scary is maybe our other linemen really are worse than the starters. Uaaugh....

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Have never understood, why the same people that keep making the same mistakes stay on the field. Trying other people in the line cant get any worse.

Sometimes it is just as simple as the guys behind them are worse. I hope that is not the case though!

 

[The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy]

What's "really" scary is maybe our other linemen really are worse than the starters. Uaaugh....

It is scary. If it weren’t for Rutgers, our O-Line would be dead last in the BIG10

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

Raridon isn't even the next guy up at LG. Can he even bend over to tie his shoes without having to sit down to do it? I'm serious. He came in massively undersized and then got fat and is still undersized. He can't pass block. He struggled at that in high school too.

Sometimes recruiting rankings get things flat out wrong, folks.

It's known that Benhart wants to be playing. No secret there but he is also smart enough to know that earning it will pay off.

I'll give him credit, he looks quick for a 350lb lineman with a 110lb gut.

 

[CatColumbia]

Few comments and observations I see:

--Why do we have an underperforming lineman as our captain?
--Our two best lineman are Jaimes and Jurgens. They are the only two who posses athleticism and some power. The other three remind me of pilsbury dough boy half the time.
--Why does our captain call out our center for bad snaps when he's getting beat on 65% of the plays? Nothing wrong in calling out the Center but he needs to carry his weight and take ownership of that publicly.
--Football is a team effort but I put our teams struggles almost solely on this unit. Their inability to keep drives going and constant tendency of getting penalized on big plays have been huge momentum killers, hence putting more pressure on our "bend but don't break" Defense.

If this unit can get it together we can win as many as 3-4 of the remaining games. If not, we'll be finding ourselves watching other teams during the holidays.

 

[o_Hit]

Yeah as bad as the O line has been, I don't understand the stick with them mentality. They aren't getting better with time. My only though it Frost wants to save guys and be able to RS them for the future. Maybe we will start seeing more the last 4 or 5 games since they could still play in 4 and RS.

Frost needs to get over it and start Benhart. There are less talented true freshman linemen starting across college football and having success at doing it. I know Farniok is a captain, but he is the weakest link on our entire offense right now. They should have started the season with Matt at LG and Benhart at RT.

 

[c3o]

Jurgens was probably our lone bright spot at Minnesota. I can see why they want him in there. Jaimes is still probably over all our best lineman. The rest of the guys IMO could get "rests" and it wouldn't hurt us.

Yeah, I mean the bad snaps are bad but Jurgens is the only SOB we have on that **** show that fires into a block and delivers. He will be fine and playing him now will be great going forward. Hixon wouldn't start at NDSU and Farinok, I just don't get.

I honestly think it's more of an attitude problem. Sometimes it flat out looks like they stopped trying

 

[John_J_Rambo]

I'll give him credit, he looks quick for a 350lb lineman with a 110lb gut.

riding this 'joke' straight into the ground, I see

 

[TruHusker]

Yeah as bad as the O line has been, I don't understand the stick with them mentality. They aren't getting better with time. My only though it Frost wants to save guys and be able to RS them for the future. Maybe we will start seeing more the last 4 or 5 games since they could still play in 4 and RS.

Frost needs to get over it and start Benhart. There are less talented true freshman linemen starting across college football and having success at doing it. I know Farniok is a captain, but he is the weakest link on our entire offense right now. They should have started the season with Matt at LG and Benhart at RT.

Based on what?

Where has a coach said MF would be better inside? It may have been said by a coach but who and when or is this more internet blather that someone just repeats?

What if Benhart is not ready gets his lunch handed to him? Is that OK?

Wouldn’t Austin make that decision, not Frost? This is just like the Xeon d team QB, they are always better.

 

[o_Hit]

Based on what?

Where has a coach said MF would be better inside? It may have been said by a coach but who and when or is this more internet blather that someone just repeats?

What if Benhart is not ready gets his lunch handed to him? Is that OK?

Wouldn’t Austin make that decision, not Frost? This is just like the Xeon d team QB, they are always better.

Based on my opinion... you know, like everyone else's posts on this board. Stop wasting my time with redundant questions.

 

[Lincoln100]

Have never understood, why the same people that keep making the same mistakes stay on the field. Trying other people in the line cant get any worse.

No fear of failure. He’s really really letting them fail, maybe a little too much, as they seem to be embracing it.

 

[TruHusker]

Based on my opinion... you know, like everyone else's posts on this board. Stop wasting my time with redundant questions.

Wow, now that is powerful and very much worth your time to write. Sorry if I inconvenienced you for facts.

 

[o_Hit]

Wow, now that is powerful and very much worth your time to write. Sorry if I inconvenienced you for facts.

This whole message board is opinion. You have never posted anything factually worth while. Stop wasting everyone's time with your bs mr. Insider.

 

[Solana Beach Husker]

Line has been bad but I find it interesting that Wandale somehow finds holes when he is at running back, even though I am not even sure he could be considered a running back. When we throw it generally seems the qbs had time, but no one to throw it to....and Mills is really our only running back left and he seriously doesn't know how to run in this current offense, he doesn't know the holes, or 2nd level cutbacks, he is running into contact and is not as physical as he dreams. The line will look bad when qbs don't have any playmakers, and there aren't backs who can hit holes. Remember the entire premise of this offense is to get the lineman down the field with a quick passing, screen oriented, or RTO offense. Slow developing runs, and 3rd and long passing with slow developing routes is always going to end in disaster no matter the talent. We've had a 700 yard offense day when our playmakers were healthy, I think this is more about playmakers than just about the line.

 

[Trumplestiltskin]

I just find it hard to believe our big fat guys can be that much worse than everyone else’s big fat guys. It’s not like they are non athletic slobs.

 

[dinglefritz]

Frost needs to get over it and start Benhart. There are less talented true freshman linemen starting across college football and having success at doing it. I know Farniok is a captain, but he is the weakest link on our entire offense right now. They should have started the season with Matt at LG and Benhart at RT.

Maybe Benhart hasn't shown much better than Farniok in practice yet. Do you blow a year of eligibility at this point for maybe not a whole lot of improvement over Farniok? Personally I would redshirt him at this point UNLESS it appears that him playing would be the difference in making a bowl game.

 

[kerpal_68]

Few comments and observations I see:


--Why does our captain call out our center for bad snaps when he's getting beat on 65% of the plays? Nothing wrong in calling out the Center but he needs to carry his weight and take ownership of that publicly.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with that captains brother being the backup center that basically got told he will never start at Nebraska barring injury at center. It has been mentioned several times cam is the future at center.

 

[o_Hit]

Maybe Benhart hasn't shown much better than Farniok in practice yet. Do you blow a year of eligibility at this point for maybe not a whole lot of improvement over Farniok? Personally I would redshirt him at this point UNLESS it appears that him playing would be the difference in making a bowl game.

I dont believe that he hasn't practiced better. I just think Frost is being stubborn and doesn't want to bench or move a captain. Benhart showed more at the HS All American game than Matt ever has. Benhart was dominating other hs all Americans... Matt would not have the same luck.

Nothing anyone says will convince me that Matt isn't the worst tackle in college football. Go back and look, he was getting pushed 5 yards back against juggernauts like south Alabama and Colorado.

 

[dinglefritz]

I'm sure it has nothing to do with that captains brother being the backup center that basically got told he will never start at Nebraska barring injury at center. It has been mentioned several times cam is the future at center.

One really has to wonder about the chemistry on our O line. I've wondered to myself if Farniok was trying to sabotage Jurgens. That said, injuries happen all the time and Will Farniok can play guard too. So there's nothing to say that Will won't play some time for us. I can't bring myself to believe that Matt would purposely screw up. That said, chemistry appears to be an issue.

 

[dinglefritz]

I dont believe that he hasn't practiced better. I just think Frost is being stubborn and doesn't want to bench or move a captain. Benhart showed more at the HS All American game than Matt ever has. Benhart was dominating other hs all Americans... Matt would not have the same luck.

Nothing anyone says will convince me that Matt isn't the worst tackle in college football. Go back and look, he was getting pushed 5 yards back against juggernauts like south Alabama and Colorado.

Dominating other 18 year old high school All-Americans is not the same as trying to block a 300 lb 21 year old B1G veteran. In the case of OSU's DE, Farniok was trying to block a top 5 NFL draft pick who would be starting right now for multiple NFL teams.

 

[o_Hit]

Dominating other 18 year old high school All-Americans is not the same as trying to block a 300 lb 21 year old B1G veteran. In the case of OSU's DE, Farniok was trying to block a top 5 NFL draft pick who would be starting right now for multiple NFL teams.

Lol... okay. I gave examples and you came back with the most extreme example in OSU. Drake Jackson is a 18 or 19 year old true freshman at USC and he would destroy Farniok.

 

[dinglefritz]

Lol... okay. I gave examples and you came back with the most extreme example in OSU. Drake Jackson is a 18 or 19 year old true freshman at USC and he would destroy Farniok.

Possibly. The 18-19 year old freshman isn't the guy that our OTs face Saturday after Saturday. They face usually 21 year old grown men. I have no doubt that IF Frost thought Benhart was the difference between winning and losing right now that Benhart would be starting right now. Frost owes no allegiance to Farniok.

 

[catch54]

Listening to 1620 this morning and apparently some on the Offensive Line are upset that others are getting more playing time or starting ahead of them.

I wish EVERYONE on the O-line would put as much worry and focus on blocking the person in front of them during game time.

This group is by far the weakest link of the entire team and can be blamed for the majority of our losses this year. There is no ‘I’ in team!

I hate to break it to you but not all plays have someone blocking the "person" in front of them. You heard it here first … often times coaches scheme to get advantageous blocking angles.

 

[The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy_Behind_The_Guy]

I hate to break it to you but not all plays have someone blocking the "person" in front of them. You heard it here first … often times coaches scheme to get advantageous blocking angles.

Fair enough. My point is less crying about things and better blocking and getting better ‘advantageous blocking angles’ for the Offense

 

[NikkiSixx_rivals269993]

so, the coaches are not putting the 5 best guys out there?

 

[dinglefritz]

so, the coaches are not putting the 5 best guys out there?

IMO the 5 "best" guys probably include a couple of guys who are redshirting. The 5 "most ready to play" though are probably starting. It's a conundrum.