Obama/Hillary Treason - RICO

LafayetteBear

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Why did the democrats cover for Trumps unsavory incidents?

Of course democrats did exactly nothing when they were in possession of this supposed information you have.
1. I don't have any of the Epstein files (or as you refer to it, "this important information") in my possession. I'm surprised that you thought I did.

2. In what way were "the Democrats" covering for Trump's unsavory incidents? (I assume you are talking about his pedophilia while in the company of his best friend Jeff Epstein, because Trump figured prominently in plenty of other "unsavory incidents.") There is still ongoing litigation involving Ghislaine Maxwell, as there was for the entire time Joe Biden was President. Small wonder the grand jury transcripts were not released during those legal proceedings.

But the plain fact is that the grand jury transcripts related to Epstein are just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the totality of "the Epstein files." There are a ton of other records, and more information is coming to light every day. Epstein's employees and friends apparently compiled a "Birthday Book" for him on the occasion of his 50th birthday, and it was chock full of letters from his friends, including the letter from Donald Trump that wished him many more "wonderful secrets" and was in the outline of a naked female. There are also bank records concerning roughly 4,500 wire transfers into or out of Epstein's bank accounts, with the reported total amount of income from such wire transfers being roughly $1.5 billion. Trump could have released ALL of that stuff, but he didn't. Instead, he sought to portray the grand jury transcripts as constituting essentially the totality of Epstein information to be released to the public. And Pam Bondi's court petition seeking permission to release the grand jury transcripts was laughable. Every lawyer worth his or her salt knows that you have to get the consent of various parties, in particular people who are identified as victims in grand jury transcripts, in order to secure court approval of their public release. Yet Ms. Bondi never even gave notice, much less sought consent of, the victims identified in the subject grand jury transcripts. She knew from the outset that the DOJ's supposed desire to release the grand jury transcripts was feigned, and a political dog and pony show.

The Birthday Book and the names of the persons who wired big bucks to Epstein would probably be very illuminating. At minimum, a whole lot of those people would have some 'splainin' to do.

3. I have no (zero) doubt that some prominent Democrats were participants in Epstein's pedophile scheme. News reports say that the targets for his recruitment efforts were young women between the ages of 14 and 18. When they reached age 18, they apparently "aged out" of eligibility for Pedo Island. Yikes. Disgusting, and criminal. I want every single one of these pedophiles, regardless of his political party affiliation or personal accomplishments, to be identified and held to account. I think that sentiment is held by a lot of people on both sides of the political aisle. Bill Clinton will very likely figure in this scandal. Too bad, Bill. But Donald Trump was Epstein's best friend for over 10 years, and he spent a whole lot of time with Epstein. Photos confirming this keep popping up, which is surely inconvenient to Trump's efforts to distance himself from Epstein. Moreover, The Donald himself noted that Epstein "likes 'em on the young side." Ouch. Methinks Donald did, too.
 
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LafayetteBear

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There are still fools out there who think nothing will happen to Obama.😆😆
Allow me to clue you in on a little bit of reality. Nothing will happen to President Obama.
 

TigerGrowls

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🚨 BREAKING: Tulsi Gabbard Says Whistleblowers Are Flooding Out of the Obama Administration

Something massive is happening behind the scenes.

Today, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard confirmed that “whistleblowers are coming out of the woodwork” — insiders from deep within the Obama-era intelligence community are stepping forward. And what they’re revealing could change everything we thought we knew about the 2016 election.

According to Gabbard, these whistleblowers claim that senior officials inside Obama’s White House, the FBI, and the CIA knew full well the Steele Dossier was fake—but pushed it anyway to sabotage Trump. They weaponized U.S. intelligence agencies to smear and destroy a political opponent. And now, after nearly a decade of silence, the people who witnessed it firsthand are finally speaking up.

Gabbard’s office has already begun declassifying documents. And they paint a devastating picture: an intelligence coup waged against a duly-elected president, built on lies, and directed from the highest levels. This isn’t just corruption—it’s treason.

For years, we were told it was a conspiracy theory. Now we know it was a real conspiracy.

📖 Romans 2:16 (AMPC)

“On that day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ…”

The secrets are coming out. The judgment is coming too. The question is — are we ready to face it?

If you’ve stood by Trump since day one — this is your moment.
 
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TigerGrowls

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Tulsi opening a huge can of whoop @$$.



If Obama, and other high-profile individuals, ever were to be arrested, this is EXACTLY how I envisioned it would play out.

The public MUST be briefed on WHY it is these people are being arrested BEFORE the arresting, and it’s a matter of NATSEC.

The public MUST be ready to accept arrests, otherwise it could cause widespread chaos. The media would claim Trump is a dictator, and it could lead to public uprisings, nationwide riots, mass civilian casualties, collective psychological anguish, etc.

But if the public are SHOWN that Obama and his cabal were engaged in treasonous acts, BEFORE they are arrested, the public will be more willing to accept it, without sparking widespread chaos.

We as the public are currently being briefed as to what happened. The idea of Obama and his cabal being arrested, is being seeded and normalized. It’s a gradual progression, not a band-aid rip.

What Tulsi is doing right now, is educating the public, and preparing them for what is yet to come.

Based on what I am seeing, and the coordination behind this rollout, I believe it’s happening. As for when arrests happen, I do not know. It will happen when the time is right, AFTER the public are fully briefed on the crimes committed, shown the evidence, and the psychological blow has been softened.
 

TigerGrowls

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WOW. Page 17 of the declassified House intelligence committee report is wild. It reveals that Russia had huge amounts of potential anti-Clinton dirt that it sat on in the final days of the 2016 campaign. It included:

-Internal claims that Hillary was on “heavy tranquilizers” and suffering "instensified psycho-emotional problems."
-Evidence of severe health ailments like type 2 diabetes and ischemic heart disease.
-Internal DNC comms that Obama and others found Hillary’s health “extraordinarily alarming.”
-Evidence of secret meetings with religious leaders where Clinton offered "signficant increases in funding" from the State Department in return for their support.
-Internal Democrat admissions that European allies were unenthusiastic about a Clinton presidency and thought she was not up to the job of head of state.

If Russia was really all-in on supporting Trump and hurting Clinton, it would have leaked this information in October 2016 when her lead in the RCP average slipped to just +1.3.

Instead, Russia didn’t — completely debunking the core assumptions of the Russia hoax. Rather than admit they were wrong, Brennan’s CIA buried the info and manufactured a completely alternative reality to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump.
 

hopefultiger13

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The conspiracy continued while he was out of office.
You mean when Trump was actually President and Obama and Clinton were private citizens with no position in the government? THEN? Sure man. How exactly does a coup work again? Isn't it when you take over the government?

And if Obama is guilty here, then how the heck did Trump get immunity after he left office. How many times did he say to remove Biden and put himself in? Nah, this is PURE distraction to take the heat off Trump. The first play in Trump's playbook.

Again, don't see the big deal here. So what if Trump banged a few underage girls? It's not like anyone on here would stop supporting him. I mean what's sex with a few minors compared to getting sweet, sweet tax breaks and personally doing better under Trump? His supporters have their eyes on the prize and this Epstein stuff is nothing.
 
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fatpiggy

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You mean when Trump was actually President and Obama and Clinton were private citizens with no position in the government? THEN? Sure man. How exactly does a coup work again? Isn't it when you take over the government?

And if Obama is guilty here, then how the heck did Trump get immunity after he left office. How many times did he say to remove Biden and put himself in? Nah, this is PURE distraction to take the heat off Trump. The first play in Trump's playbook.

Again, don't see the big deal here. So what if Trump banged a few underage girls? It's not like anyone on here would stop supporting him. I mean what's sex with a few minors compared to getting sweet, sweet tax breaks and personally doing better under Trump? His supporters have their eyes on the prize and this Epstein stuff is nothing.
Don't see the big deal on a coup?

They used the power of the intelligence community to try and undermine the will of the people. That is a soft coup.

They fabricated evidence out of thin air to make it happen.

Enjoy the movie, we all know what's coming.
 

dpic73

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Don't see the big deal on a coup?

They used the power of the intelligence community to try and undermine the will of the people. That is a soft coup.

They fabricated evidence out of thin air to make it happen.

Enjoy the movie, we all know what's coming.
How is investigating Russian election meddling - which was a real thing - a coup? Are you saying they should allow it to happen and not do anything about it? Only a whiny, white grievance, victimhood maga could see it as anything else.
 

fatpiggy

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Imagine being Barack Obama, thinking you got away with murder since 2016, spying, lying, rigging the game, watching Trump get dragged through hell, and thinking it’s over. You install your puppet and breathe easy like you're untouchable.

But then Trump comes storming back after 34 sham convictions, two arrests, and two assassination attempts and wins in 2024. Now, suddenly, you're not safe. You're staring down treason charges, your entire legacy collapsing, your lies exposed, and the world finally seeing you for what you are: a smooth-talking thug. Karma didn’t forget you, it just waited. And the reckoning you thought would never come is now here, and it’s glorious to watch.

 

yoshi121374

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Imagine being Barack Obama, thinking you got away with murder since 2016, spying, lying, rigging the game, watching Trump get dragged through hell, and thinking it’s over. You install your puppet and breathe easy like you're untouchable.

But then Trump comes storming back after 34 sham convictions, two arrests, and two assassination attempts and wins in 2024. Now, suddenly, you're not safe. You're staring down treason charges, your entire legacy collapsing, your lies exposed, and the world finally seeing you for what you are: a smooth-talking thug. Karma didn’t forget you, it just waited. And the reckoning you thought would never come is now here, and it’s glorious to watch.



Imagine thinking any of this stuff will lead to an ex president getting arrested. Did you not pay attention to the Supreme Court?

Investigating Russian Interference, which is extremely well documented and accepted as fact by both sides of the aisle, including members of this Administration, as a President is literally what his job is.

This is so laughable and the MAGAS are eating this swerve hook line and sinker.

Trump starts playing all his greatest hits and the MAGAS fall right on line. Sad.
 

hopefultiger13

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Don't see the big deal on a coup?

They used the power of the intelligence community to try and undermine the will of the people. That is a soft coup.

They fabricated evidence out of thin air to make it happen.

Enjoy the movie, we all know what's coming.
LMAO... again, Obama could do whatever he wanted with the Intelligence services while he was President. It doesn't matter if it was illegal or not. That's the law of the land. Once he was no longer President, he can't tell the intelligence services to do anything and the intelligence services answer to a new boss. Who was that boss that was supposedly letting them continue to make up evidence again? Hillary has been a private citizen since 2012 and had no authority to do anything either. Once Trump was President, HE could do whatever he wanted with the intelligence services. Apparently, he just let them do whatever and now that he's under the gun for the Epstein stuff, he's bringing up crap from almost a decade ago to distract from his banging underage girls.
 
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fatpiggy

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LMAO... again, Obama could do whatever he wanted with the Intelligence services while he was President. It doesn't matter if it was illegal or not. That's the law of the land. Once he was no longer President, he can't tell the intelligence services to do anything and the intelligence services answer to a new boss. Who was that boss that was supposedly letting them continue to make up evidence again? Hillary has been a private citizen since 2012 and had no authority to do anything either. Once Trump was President, HE could do whatever he wanted with the intelligence services. Apparently, he just let them do whatever and now that he's under the gun for the Epstein stuff, he's bringing up crap from almost a decade ago to distract from his banging underage girls.
We will just let the judicial system work it all out.

If you think it's ok to falsify documents, falsify FISA warrants, falsify the presidents daily briefing, and conduct a conspiracy against your political opponents then you are mistaken. If the shoe was on the other foot you would say that is not ok. But since it's your guy you are OK with it.

Obama's legacy has been tarnished forever. It's all right there in writing for everyone to see.
 

dpic73

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We will just let the judicial system work it all out.

If you think it's ok to falsify documents, falsify FISA warrants, falsify the presidents daily briefing, and conduct a conspiracy against your political opponents then you are mistaken. If the shoe was on the other foot you would say that is not ok. But since it's your guy you are OK with it.

Obama's legacy has been tarnished forever. It's all right there in writing for everyone to see.
It's won't be tarnished with normal people, that I can assure you. This is embarrassing, concocted nonsense and the only thing that will be tarnished is Trump's horrific legacy.
 
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dpic73

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We will just let the judicial system work it all out.

If you think it's ok to falsify documents, falsify FISA warrants, falsify the presidents daily briefing, and conduct a conspiracy against your political opponents then you are mistaken. If the shoe was on the other foot you would say that is not ok. But since it's your guy you are OK with it.

Obama's legacy has been tarnished forever. It's all right there in writing for everyone to see.
 
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PalmettoTiger1

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1. I don't have any of the Epstein files (or as you refer to it, "this important information") in my possession. I'm surprised that you thought I did.

2. In what way were "the Democrats" covering for Trump's unsavory incidents? (I assume you are talking about his pedophilia while in the company of his best friend Jeff Epstein, because Trump figured prominently in plenty of other "unsavory incidents.") There is still ongoing litigation involving Ghislaine Maxwell, as there was for the entire time Joe Biden was President. Small wonder the grand jury transcripts were not released during those legal proceedings.

But the plain fact is that the grand jury transcripts related to Epstein are just the tip of the iceberg in terms of the totality of "the Epstein files." There are a ton of other records, and more information is coming to light every day. Epstein's employees and friends apparently compiled a "Birthday Book" for him on the occasion of his 50th birthday, and it was chock full of letters from his friends, including the letter from Donald Trump that wished him many more "wonderful secrets" and was in the outline of a naked female. There are also bank records concerning roughly 4,500 wire transfers into or out of Epstein's bank accounts, with the reported total amount of income from such wire transfers being roughly $1.5 billion. Trump could have released ALL of that stuff, but he didn't. Instead, he sought to portray the grand jury transcripts as constituting essentially the totality of Epstein information to be released to the public. And Pam Bondi's court petition seeking permission to release the grand jury transcripts was laughable. Every lawyer worth his or her salt knows that you have to get the consent of various parties, in particular people who are identified as victims in grand jury transcripts, in order to secure court approval of their public release. Yet Ms. Bondi never even gave notice, much less sought consent of, the victims identified in the subject grand jury transcripts. She knew from the outset that the DOJ's supposed desire to release the grand jury transcripts was feigned, and a political dog and pony show.

The Birthday Book and the names of the persons who wired big bucks to Epstein would probably be very illuminating. At minimum, a whole lot of those people would have some 'splainin' to do.

3. I have no (zero) doubt that some prominent Democrats were participants in Epstein's pedophile scheme. News reports say that the targets for his recruitment efforts were young women between the ages of 14 and 18. When they reached age 18, they apparently "aged out" of eligibility for Pedo Island. Yikes. Disgusting, and criminal. I want every single one of these pedophiles, regardless of his political party affiliation or personal accomplishments, to be identified and held to account. I think that sentiment is held by a lot of people on both sides of the political aisle. Bill Clinton will very likely figure in this scandal. Too bad, Bill. But Donald Trump was Epstein's best friend for over 10 years, and he spent a whole lot of time with Epstein. Photos confirming this keep popping up, which is surely inconvenient to Trump's efforts to distance himself from Epstein. Moreover, The Donald himself noted that Epstein "likes 'em on the young side." Ouch. Methinks Donald did, too.

@LafayetteBear

Dude you are clearly in the final stages of TDS and Political Cancer Syndrome regarding Trump

If you stop thinking about Trump and consider what you can do to make life better I hear that is the miracle cure

Just do it dude

@dpic73 That goes for you too

The manic derangement does not look good on you guys
 

dpic73

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What in the world are you talking about?

How about judging the integrity of your boy @fatpiggy who changed his username to avoid paying a bet?
It's the same as how they treat Trump - they can do and say anything as long as it hurts the libs, but if you attack back, you have character flaws, lol, never mind that their Messiah has the worst character of any politician in history - you should only say nice things about him!...pfftt
 
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PalmettoTiger1

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What in the world are you talking about?

How about judging the integrity of your boy @fatpiggy who changed his username to avoid paying a bet?

Would agree that a bet is a bet and should be honored

That is why I never bet what I cannot afford to lose

Let me say this clearly if I had made that bet I would honor the terms

Not doing so lowers my own self esteem and self respect

Shame on him if he failed to honor the terms

Do you feel better now
 
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yoshi121374

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Would agree that a bet is a bet and should be honored

That is why I never bet what I cannot afford to lose

Let me say this clearly if I had made that bet I would honor the terms

Not doing so lowers my own self esteem and self respect

Shame on him if he failed to honor the terms

Do you feel better now

Don't feel better, but I appreciate your willingness to call that out.

Now are you going to tag him as someone with no integrity?
 

dpic73

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Did Hegseth Text it out to his buddies?
His own post notes that the dossier wasn't classified and few people saw it but that's more serious than letting random reporters sit in on Top Secret Signal chats. 🤤
 

PalmettoTiger1

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Don't feel better, but I appreciate your willingness to call that out.

Now are you going to tag him as someone with no integrity?

I am unaware of what and the actual person and the circumstances of who said what and who did what to who

My only point is if a bet was made make sure you can live with the loss if you lose accept the lose with grace

Now if the person did welsh out on paying the bet I would be disappointed in that person and would have concerns about their integrity

I would want them to explain the reason they did not honor the bet

After hearing the reason I may forgive them however I would NOT FORGET the failure to honor that bet

After that there would always be some doubt in my mind

Does that answer the way I feel about honoring bets

To be clear I don’t want to be a judge or mediator between you two so I prefer to stay out of it

I am sure the person who has his story

If he makes a claim against you I would want to hear his side .

But to be clear I am neutral on this and will stay out of yalls dispute

Let you and I go at it and that I can judge