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Hey, lakelaw, I have quote for you from Boone after yesterday's game 1. lmao

“Even when you’re rolling offensively, there’s going to be days when you get shut down a little bit,” Boone said. “But we want that feeling of, ‘Man, that was a grind."
 

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Hey, lakelaw, I have quote for you from Boone after yesterday's game 1. lmao

“Even when you’re rolling offensively, there’s going to be days when you get shut down a little bit,” Boone said. “But we want that feeling of, ‘Man, that was a grind."
Please excuse me for a moment while I go bang my head against a wall for an hour or two
 
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Here's the real thing with that comment.....literally no one wants to finish a game and say "man, that was a grind"

When he hit lead-off, Jeter was a legend for his lead-off at bat commentary in the dugout. No matter if the guy smoked him with a good morning, good afternoon, good evening 3 pitch strike-out, or if he was induced to hit a weak pop-up or grounder, or if he smoked a ball into the gap....Jeter always said the same things when he got back to the dugout.

The opposing pitcher stinks (well, I'm sure what he actually said wouldn't get past the filters here)
They are going to bombard him and run him from the game early
There's nothing the pitcher can throw that can beat them

No matter how good or bad his at bat was, he screamed at his team that today is going to be a walk in the park.

THAT is having a killer instinct.

Not hoping for a grind. Good lord.
 
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Weathers flat out sucks. I've seen nothing from him that spells success at the major league level. When Fried, Rodon, and Schmidt return he needs to be shown the door along with Cruz. Move Warren to the pen and Gil when he returns.
 
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Austin Wells is batting .158. That's pathetic. I guess the Yankees hitting coaches are no help for him.
 

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With the Red Sox current 14 game wining streak they have crept to just 4 games behind the Yankees in the loss column. Unreal.
 

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Max Fried is back! Pitching 2nd game of today's double header.

Day game alert! Game 1 of double header at 1:00 PM.
Saw that last night. Fried and Cole pitching a double header. Was really surprised to see that. Knew that Fried was getting close but thought it was supposed to be another 2 weeks or so
 
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Saw that last night. Fried and Cole pitching a double header. Was really surprised to see that. Knew that Fried was getting close but thought it was supposed to be another 2 weeks or so
They just said Fried's limited to 16 pitches. lmao I hope it's 60 and I misheard.
 

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How much longer are we Yankees fans going to have to put up with Boone? How stupid can you be to bring in Cruz, his favorite go to reliever who sucks big time, and allows inherited runners to score every time, to pitch the 10th with a runner on 2nd? Geesh! And to pitch Bednar in the 9th? Lmao Another loss you can pin on Boone.
 
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Another Yankees loss in extra innings and that is squarely on Boone. He never learns. NEVER bring Cruz in with runners on base.

Boston won again. 3 back of the Yankees now.
 
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Cole was dominant

Fried was dominant although he only went 5 on a pitch count

PLEASE FIX THE BULLPEN AND GET A COUPLE OF BATS
I'm anxious to see what the Yankees do by the trade deadline, if they are serious about trying to improve to win. I want to see a team that expects to win rather than "grinding" and maybe winning.
 
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I'm anxious to see what the Yankees do by the trade deadline, if they are serious about trying to improve to win. I want to see a team that expects to win rather than "grinding" and maybe winning.
You just hit the nail on the head and why the Boonie era is well past time coming to an end.

It's a mentality. And Boonie has preached "grind" for way too long.

The Yanks need someone, ANYONE, to preach "we're gonna kick your ***"
 
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You just hit the nail on the head and why the Boonie era is well past time coming to an end.

It's a mentality. And Boonie has preached "grind" for way too long.

The Yanks need someone, ANYONE, to preach "we're gonna kick your ***"
You got that right! I dot see a lot of fight in them and not a knock on Judge but he is too laid back to be a Captain. The players of old feared Munson and Jeter.
 
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2for...you've got me thinking now.

Boone was a grinder as a player. Played with some piss and vinegar, etc. but stuck around a long time because he was a pro. Nothing special...solid pro. Team has resembled that a lot, right?

Girardi was definitely a grinder. He knew how to catch and call a game and he played a long time by just being a pro's pro. Nothing special...just solid. His teams kind of resembled that in performance, right?

Joe Torre....sat in the dugout with the confidence of a Mafia Godfather. Winning aura just surrounded him. Like a Godfather, he didn't have to say much...but when he did.... As a player? Former MVP and one of the best position players of a generation/decade, etc dominated by pitching. And while his playing days were before my time I know from watching old clips and reading about him that he played with a lot of confidence...even some swagger.

Teams often take on the characteristics of their coaches once they have been around a while. And that's part of the reason that Boonie has overstayed his welcome.
 

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2for...you've got me thinking now.

Boone was a grinder as a player. Played with some piss and vinegar, etc. but stuck around a long time because he was a pro. Nothing special...solid pro. Team has resembled that a lot, right?

Girardi was definitely a grinder. He knew how to catch and call a game and he played a long time by just being a pro's pro. Nothing special...just solid. His teams kind of resembled that in performance, right?

Joe Torre....sat in the dugout with the confidence of a Mafia Godfather. Winning aura just surrounded him. Like a Godfather, he didn't have to say much...but when he did.... As a player? Former MVP and one of the best position players of a generation/decade, etc dominated by pitching. And while his playing days were before my time I know from watching old clips and reading about him that he played with a lot of confidence...even some swagger.

Teams often take on the characteristics of their coaches once they have been around a while. And that's part of the reason that Boonie has overstayed his welcome.
You pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Things are different now than when I was scouting and was around teams on a daily basis. The late 70's was when I got my start and you know how those Yankees teams were at that time. Didn't matter if the manager was Billy Martin, Bob Lemon, Yogi, etc. The players on the roster as a whole were mean and driven and frequently fought each other in the clubhouse but not on the field. George went out and got the players and the managers were told to WIN. They pissed players off, pissed George off, etc. But they won. They were not friends to the players buddying up to them in the dugout. Boone having a say so in what players the Yankees get is not good in my eyes.

A funny story. I grew up with Barry Foote and played Legion ball with him. I was delighted when the Cubs traded him to the Yankees. Goose was pitching one game and walked 2 straight batters. Barry walked out to the mound and Goose growled athim, "What the **** are you doing out here?" Barry told him he needed to throw some strikes. Goose yelled at him, "Get the **** off my mound!" Barry yelled back, "Well, throw some damn strikes!" Goose struck out three in a row. I only see Barry now once every few years and the first thing I say to him is, "Get the **** off my mound!" lmao

Can you imagine players today doing that in a game? Need some mean players in this current group.
 

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You pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Things are different now than when I was scouting and was around teams on a daily basis. The late 70's was when I got my start and you know how those Yankees teams were at that time. Didn't matter if the manager was Billy Martin, Bob Lemon, Yogi, etc. The players on the roster as a whole were mean and driven and frequently fought each other in the clubhouse but not on the field. George went out and got the players and the managers were told to WIN. They pissed players off, pissed George off, etc. But they won. They were not friends to the players buddying up to them in the dugout. Boone having a say so in what players the Yankees get is not good in my eyes.

A funny story. I grew up with Barry Foote and played Legion ball with him. I was delighted when the Cubs traded him to the Yankees. Goose was pitching one game and walked 2 straight batters. Barry walked out to the mound and Goose growled athim, "What the **** are you doing out here?" Barry told him he needed to throw some strikes. Goose yelled at him, "Get the **** off my mound!" Barry yelled back, "Well, throw some damn strikes!" Goose struck out three in a row. I only see Barry now once every few years and the first thing I say to him is, "Get the **** off my mound!" lmao

Can you imagine players today doing that in a game? Need some mean players in this current group.
Your Goose story brought to mind how much I LOVE seeing a pitcher demand to stay in a game. And that is so rare anymore. In the old days pitchers would be screaming at a manager to get back in the dugout the second they hit the top step. And many times if the manager took the ball you would see a pitcher who was pissed off

Mike Mussina used to do it all the time. He would just wave his glove at Joe to say "I got this"

It's one of the things I love about Cole. He doesn't do it much, but when he knows he still has gas in the tank he lets the Manager and everyone else watching know that he still has gas in the tank and he is finishing that inning
 

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Your Goose story brought to mind how much I LOVE seeing a pitcher demand to stay in a game. And that is so rare anymore. In the old days pitchers would be screaming at a manager to get back in the dugout the second they hit the top step. And many times if the manager took the ball you would see a pitcher who was pissed off

Mike Mussina used to do it all the time. He would just wave his glove at Joe to say "I got this"

It's one of the things I love about Cole. He doesn't do it much, but when he knows he still has gas in the tank he lets the Manager and everyone else watching know that he still has gas in the tank and he is finishing that inning
Another Bary Foote story was when he was with the Cubs he hit a home run on top of one of the apartment buildings beyond the outfield fence. At the time no one had ever done that. As the the crowd was marveling and murmuring about it, Dave Kingman followed Barry with a home run OVER the same building. lmfao I told Barry his fame lasted 2 minutes.
 

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Just days after saying Caballero's approach to the pitch clock was within the rules, MLB changes its mind and instructs umpires to punish him. No notice to the Yanks. Boone was livid.
 

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Just days after saying Caballero's approach to the pitch clock was within the rules, MLB changes its mind and instructs umpires to punish him. No notice to the Yanks. Boone was livid.
Yeah, the interesting part is the umps are saying they were told the Yanks were informed

Simebody is lying somewhere

What Cab has been doing is legal. Is it gamesmanship? Sure it is. But as long as he makes eye contact by the 8 second mark, it’s legal
 
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Just days after saying Caballero's approach to the pitch clock was within the rules, MLB changes its mind and instructs umpires to punish him. No notice to the Yanks. Boone was livid.
That pissed me off. He looked at the pitcher with 9 seconds on the clock. I don't see him doing anything wrong. Pitchers hold the ball until the last second. He doesn't want to engage the pitchers with 15 seconds on the clock and I don't blame him.
 
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As angry as I’ve been at this team’s play for way too much of the season…I feel dirty typing an optimistic post:

You see a dominant Cole, Fried, and Cam this week….and it puts a spotlight on how good this team can be in October despite all of the sloppy play, little league hitting, ****** leadership and managing, etc

Bullpen help (need 2 good arms supplemented by guys moving to the pen) and a couple of bats (Luis A and a catcher please) and this dog can seriously hunt. Cashman has to get the job done
 

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I don't share your hope. You can have all the pitching in the world but if you can't score it's no good. This is one pathetic hitting team, especially with men on base, and has been spiraling downward in that regard for several years now.
 
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Wonder what the Yankees record would be if they could actually score more than a few runs a game?

And now Bellinger has a hamstring injury. Damn. It's endless.
 
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I don't share your hope. You can have all the pitching in the world but if you can't score it's no good. This is one pathetic hitting team, especially with men on base, and has been spiraling downward in that regard for several years now.

Yeah, the vast majority of players underperform their season averages in the postseason, and given how weak the Yanks offense is right now, I'm not optimistic about the postseason. Judge and Stanton absolutely must be healthy and bopping for the Yanks to make a run in the postseason.

Bellinger with only 11 HRs at the beginning of August is a travesty.
 
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Wonder what the Yankees record would be if they could actually score more than a few runs a game?

And now Bellinger has a hamstring injury. Damn. It's endless.
I'm guessing the Yanks swing a deal with Colorado for their catcher AND Mickey Moniak for outfield help
 

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I'm guessing the Yanks swing a deal with Colorado for their catcher AND Mickey Moniak for outfield help
Who knows what our fool leadership will do. Everything is pointing towards the Minnesota catcher.

Will Warren and Weathers suck. I look for both of them to get moved to the pen to replace some of the junk out there. I think both would do good there. They just don't get through a lineup 2nd go round. Doval will be traded and I think we get a few more arms. There's a top closer we are trying to get but I can't think of his name right now.
 

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Looks like Boone has a new word to replace grind. It's "gritty". lol

“We’ve got to play cleaner than that, but it was a really gritty effort by a lot of different people in that room,” Boone said.
 
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