Dan Kane - Pulitzer bound...
IF the hammer comes down....
IF the hammer comes down....
North Carolina Scandal Etc
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And, we need to keep in mind who exactly John Blanchard is:
Blanchard was a senior associate athletic director at UNC until he retired in 2013. By then, he had emerged as a key figure in the academic scandal, by virtue of his role as the de facto leader of the athletes’ academic support program.
The Wainstein report found the academic support program steered athletes to classes that had no instruction and provided high grades. Athletes made up half of the enrollments in the classes. Blanchard told investigators he knew they didn’t meet, but he did not know there was no instructor. Blanchard could not be reached for comment.
Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/education/unc-scandal/article11845640.html#storylink=cpy
My thoughts on that latest Kane article:
- UNC got jobbed agreeing to pay Wainstein $990/hr for his services. That's ludicrous.
Whoever agreed to that number should be fired immediately.
- The funds to pay for all these investigations are coming from private donations? The Rams Club is doing whatever it takes not to have those banners taken down, no matter the cost.
- The Board of UNC Governors are struggling to establish a foundation of leaders going forward.
They thought the Martin report (990K) was going to be sufficient to keep their nose clean from another NCAA review.
If this type of investigation, which has yet to even be concluded, doesn't allow the death penalty to be thrown out there, then what investigation does?
UL is in this type of hot water as well, with a president that is nothing short of avoiding any talk about it.
- UNC got jobbed agreeing to pay Wainstein $990/hr for his services. That's ludicrous.
Whoever agreed to that number should be fired immediately.
- The funds to pay for all these investigations are coming from private donations? The Rams Club is doing whatever it takes not to have those banners taken down, no matter the cost.
- The Board of UNC Governors are struggling to establish a foundation of leaders going forward.
They thought the Martin report (990K) was going to be sufficient to keep their nose clean from another NCAA review.
If this type of investigation, which has yet to even be concluded, doesn't allow the death penalty to be thrown out there, then what investigation does?
UL is in this type of hot water as well, with a president that is nothing short of avoiding any talk about it.
I wonder if Blanchard knew that Deb Crowder wasn't a TA???[winking][laughing] I also wonder if Bethel knew that a secretary with only a BA isn't qualified to be a TA at a good university? I guess at OSU, where he went to school, janitors were qualified TA's?[laughing]
I found this nugget over at PackPride:
All the while, UNC would never self report a single violation to the NCAA, at least not until they seek an extension on their NOA.
All the while, UNC would never self report a single violation to the NCAA, at least not until they seek an extension on their NOA.
The more of this I read, the more action I would demand from the ncaa---if I were a member institution. How anyone could ignore the blatant, continuous deep-rooted effort to subvert the "level playing field" concept the ncaa promotes to its members is simply blind denial. Unc conduct since the scams unravelling ---which I am convinced began long before 1993----demands even harsher penalties! How is it any different---if not worse---than what smu did n the late 80's (arrogant defiance of the ncaa)? If the ncaa does not render an unprecedentedly harsh penalty for this unprecedented cheating, then the ncaa current model needs to die. This is the worst cheating n amateur sports history.Btw, where r the Feds for the pell grant fraud? What about all the hush money paid with taxpayer money?
Check out this link. It is similar to what UNC was doing on the college level:
https://arizonavarsity.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1818465
https://arizonavarsity.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1818465
Absolutely!! His office is 27 miles from the Dean Dome. He knows that UNC by far has the largest and most influential fan base in this state. And yet Dan has been relentless. The career risk he's taken in pursuing the TRUTH is journalism at its best.
word is out that SEVERAL other schools(having already been punished) have already investigated with HIGH PROFILE legal firms about suing the NCAA if they DON'T drop the hammer..
so, there's some magically delicious for your friday!!
I found a link that isn't exactly too impressed with Bradley Bethel. This is hysterical! BTW, I am beginning to miss my widdle buddy, bobby. I haven't had a good laugh the past few days!
UNVERIFIED is one way of describing Bradley's list of contributors to his movie. https://goo.gl/fCovob Jim Goodnight? Chuck Willingham?
UNVERIFIED is one way of describing Bradley's list of contributors to his movie. https://goo.gl/fCovob Jim Goodnight? Chuck Willingham?
UNC's still waiting to get a revised NOA from the NCAA. Seriously doubt they'd meet with the COI before the allegations have been finalized.
This investigation is going at a similar speed to that of Syracuse. But with so many blatant abuses of the rules, there is going to be some serious repercussions/delays with help of UNC of course. Gotta make sure we 'uncover' all the misdoings of soccer and women's basketball.
All recruiting should be impacted at this point for at LEAST 2 more years. Other state schools should be benefitting tremendously.
All recruiting should be impacted at this point for at LEAST 2 more years. Other state schools should be benefitting tremendously.
I think that might have been the original date, before UNC self-reported more violations in order to reset the clock.
I don't think that this date is still valid, but not sure.
He did tweet that after they self-reported, but that doesn't mean Tim Sullivan knows what he's talking about.
Maybe he's right but I haven't seen any information confirming such a meeting occurred, and it wouldn't make sense that they would be meeting with the COI given that UNC is basically waiting for a revised NOA at this point. (Although I've always thought that UNC SHOULD be forced to respond to the original allegations according to the original timeframe and then they can respond to the additional ones at a later time.)
Excellent point about Sullivan. Also, I concur that they should still have to respond to the original allegations at the original scheduled time. Anything else, warrants a new meeting and instead of an amendment to the NOA, there should just be an addendum that gets addressed.
Based on what I can find, it does appear that Sullivan had the right date but the wrong year! UNC previously met with NCAA on Oct 28, 2011.
UNCheat should emply the affluenza defense. Worked for that rich teenager who drunkenly killed 4 people and got off with rehab.
Jarms hope it goes on forever because it is killing their recruiting. Imo the NCAA does not have the balls to hit them hard so this lingering pain is the best we can hope for.They better be good this year because the cupboard sure looks bare for the next couple of years
http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/editorials/article41995485.html
"The legal and public relations bills related to the academic and athletics scandal over fake classes at UNC-Chapel Hill read more like the tabs for some corporate scheme unearthed than for bills for a public university.
The costs to the university for dealing with a scandal wherein athletes were guided to fake classes through an academic advising system run amok are astounding and ought to provoke disgust among alums and taxpayers who support the university. So far, reports The News & Observer’s Dan Kane, the tab for public relations consultants and lawyers has topped $10 million. And there may be more expense to come related to an investigation by and expected sanctions from the NCAA. That organization is on the hot seat. Other schools that have been penalized for lesser offenses are awaiting the punishment for UNC-Chapel Hill, which may have the distinction of being the biggest abuse of academics and athletics in the history of college sports.
The university could have saved itself and its supporters lots of money and lots of embarrassment if it had just complied with the records requests that Kane and The News & Observer made early on. The $10 million-plus for lawyers to fight requests, to answer charges and to investigate the scandal represents the cost of a lack of transparency.
Because after all was said and done, Kenneth Wainstein, the Washington attorney hired to conduct a $3.1 million investigation (his firm has been paid another $2.7 million), found that Kane’s reports were right: There were fake classes, athletes were disproportionately enrolled in them, and university officials from the bottom to the top were either oblivious or didn’t take problems seriously.
The university could have played it straight from the beginning. Instead, with a public relations operation of its own that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, it went to high-priced outside firms to “manage” the story, to keep a lid on things, to “spin” the university’s position.
The university is careful to note that the millions spent for all this don’t come from student fees or public appropriations, but from a private foundation. This is a trusted public institution that has been seriously wounded. It doesn’t matter where the money came from, as it still belongs to that public institution.
The best and cheapest response would have been not to circle the wagons and to try to defend the indefensible, but to conduct a straightforward, intense investigation, release all the findings and offer in detail a response not designed to spin the story in the best light but to expose the situation to the brightest light.
Instead, the university first – through neglect, a lack of attention, a desire for athletics success and the lackadaisical attitude of administrators – allowed the scandal to happen and, second, wasted years and millions of dollars trying to pretend it didn’t really happen the way the facts show that it did."
"The legal and public relations bills related to the academic and athletics scandal over fake classes at UNC-Chapel Hill read more like the tabs for some corporate scheme unearthed than for bills for a public university.
The costs to the university for dealing with a scandal wherein athletes were guided to fake classes through an academic advising system run amok are astounding and ought to provoke disgust among alums and taxpayers who support the university. So far, reports The News & Observer’s Dan Kane, the tab for public relations consultants and lawyers has topped $10 million. And there may be more expense to come related to an investigation by and expected sanctions from the NCAA. That organization is on the hot seat. Other schools that have been penalized for lesser offenses are awaiting the punishment for UNC-Chapel Hill, which may have the distinction of being the biggest abuse of academics and athletics in the history of college sports.
The university could have saved itself and its supporters lots of money and lots of embarrassment if it had just complied with the records requests that Kane and The News & Observer made early on. The $10 million-plus for lawyers to fight requests, to answer charges and to investigate the scandal represents the cost of a lack of transparency.
Because after all was said and done, Kenneth Wainstein, the Washington attorney hired to conduct a $3.1 million investigation (his firm has been paid another $2.7 million), found that Kane’s reports were right: There were fake classes, athletes were disproportionately enrolled in them, and university officials from the bottom to the top were either oblivious or didn’t take problems seriously.
The university could have played it straight from the beginning. Instead, with a public relations operation of its own that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, it went to high-priced outside firms to “manage” the story, to keep a lid on things, to “spin” the university’s position.
The university is careful to note that the millions spent for all this don’t come from student fees or public appropriations, but from a private foundation. This is a trusted public institution that has been seriously wounded. It doesn’t matter where the money came from, as it still belongs to that public institution.
The best and cheapest response would have been not to circle the wagons and to try to defend the indefensible, but to conduct a straightforward, intense investigation, release all the findings and offer in detail a response not designed to spin the story in the best light but to expose the situation to the brightest light.
Instead, the university first – through neglect, a lack of attention, a desire for athletics success and the lackadaisical attitude of administrators – allowed the scandal to happen and, second, wasted years and millions of dollars trying to pretend it didn’t really happen the way the facts show that it did."
Wow, pretty scathing but very accurate. I waffle back and forth on what I actually think the NCAA will actually do to UNC. At this point, I feel like they (NCAA) have got to do something it has never done before. Something to send a message that such shenanigans will not be tolerated ever again. What exactly that will be, I don't know. Death by a 1000 paper cuts seems to be the preferred method of death UNC is taking. If I were an alumnus or taxpayer in the state or even a member of the board of trustees, it would seem to be a better practice to self-impose something. Maybe UNC will continue to stall and withhold and deny....which may force the hand of the NCAA. One can only hope.
No word here to describe the magnitude of this scandal and UNC has not self imposed a single penalty against themselves for it . I mean even if any other school didn't intentionally do anything they would still impose some penalties . Not those (UNC) shameless bastards , nope nothing , instead they installed safeguards to prevent themselves from cheating again and want credit for doing it .
To be honest, I think that was the biggest surprise of the entire scandal. I fully expected UNC to take some kind of responsibility and to do some kind of punishment to the sports teams that cheated. I expected Folt and company to have some kind of honor and ethical standard to uphold since UNC proudly displays their honor code to the world.
It turns out that honor code is as big of a joke as the "carolina way." They would sell their souls to keep those fake banners.
They did take responsbility. Have you seen the 70+ academic reforms they put in place? Why would they impose penalties on their teams? NONE of them were alleged to have broken any rules. Every single allegation in the (previous) NOA is against academics. Not one of the allegations is against a sports team/coach. Syracuse had coaches involved and players who were alleged to have been ineligible in their NOA. Not the same for UNC.
I absolutely refuse to believe you are as stupid as you pretend to be. If there are no allegations against coaches and teams, why is the NCAA (that first A is for athletic) even involved? Why did the NCAA detail five major charges, including improper benefits and lack of institutional control? What jurisdiction would the NCAA have over academics at UNC?
Don't you believe the president of UNC has the moral duty and responsibility to say, "We have reviewed the transcripts of Rashad McCants and determined he got improper help in making the Deans List with all As in 2005. And we have determined that Julius Peppers received improper help in staying eligible in 2000 when every grade he received outside the AFAM program was an F or a D, and these are just two examples of behavior unworthy of our institution. Therefore I am imposing the following penalties to demonstrate that we take our academic reputation seriously at UNC..."
You really think even doing that much wouldn't go a bit of the way in restoring UNCs utterly trashed reputation?
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Thanks Bobby, that's the best laugh I've had all day.
Brain death has occurred.
Bobbi Perv, nobody believes any of this crap you spew. Where were those academic reforms when they were cheating the country? Where is the third party validation of their efforts to clean the academics scum from the walls? Where is the self imposed penalty and contrition for nearly two decades of the most disgusting display of cheating college athletics has ever known? I can only assume your continued support of the biggest cheating institution in history means you supported cheating to win and your only regret is that the scum got caught.
North Carolina lacks the standing to participate. No team should have to suffer sharing the floor with a team from that cesspool.
Or Bobbi Perv. He does serve one purpose. By spewing the same line of trash over and over, we get to underscore the depth and breadth of North Carolina filth he supports.
Bobby, since when has the NCAA ever given a fat baby's wee wee about whether or not current players participated in past violations? Do you think that has ever prevented them from dropping the hammer on schools with post season and tv bans? Do you think they've ever said, "Well, it just wouldn't be fair to the kids there now,"???
Let me just give you the answer: No. No was the answer we were looking for.
Let me just give you the answer: No. No was the answer we were looking for.
I feel sad for you. You are either severely ethically challenged just like those at UNC*** or you are one of the most deluded people I have interacted with on the internet.
Even former governor Martin has recanted the theory it was an academic only scandal. Obviously having fake classes for athletes gave UNC a competitive advantage. I believe it was their 2005 championship team where every starter took a fake class.
The kids were directed to the classes by the athletic academic advisors. Frankly UNC should have their punishment tripled for trying to spin their consistently fraudulent behavior over 18 years. Really this is much worse than what SMU got the death penalty for.
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