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-It's a talent issue when no one on special teams is coached to fair catch a sky kick and instead let it bounce live against Maryland.
-It's a talent issue when 10 guys over pursue the football against Illinois.
-It's a talent issue when we have 10 men on the punt team and have to call timeout or when we have to call timeout coming out of a TV timeout.
-It's a talent issue that we never blitz more than 4 sometimes 5 guys.
-It's a talent issue that we decide to run press man coverage with a true freshman corner, without bringing any pressure, against OSU.
-It's a talent issue that we have run ONE trick play on special teams in 31 games under Ash...a pitiful snap to the upback that got stuffed @ Pedo St
-It's a talent issue that we repeatedly punt on 4th and 5 from the opponents 43 yardline
Yes, that all sounds like a talent issue, certainly not a coaching issue...
-It's a talent issue when no one on special teams is coached to fair catch a sky kick and instead let it bounce live against Maryland.
-It's a talent issue when 10 guys over pursue the football against Illinois.
-It's a talent issue when we have 10 men on the punt team and have to call timeout or when we have to call timeout coming out of a TV timeout.
-It's a talent issue that we never blitz more than 4 sometimes 5 guys.
-It's a talent issue that we decide to run press man coverage with a true freshman corner, without bringing any pressure, against OSU.
-It's a talent issue that we have run ONE trick play on special teams in 31 games under Ash...a pitiful snap to the upback that got stuffed @ Pedo St
-It's a talent issue that we repeatedly punt on 4th and 5 from the opponents 43 yardline
Yes, that all sounds like a talent issue, certainly not a coaching issue...
flood had 27 wins in 4 years , years 2,3 and 4 he had 18 wins, no way ash could come even close
maybe rutgers can take coach klein's playbook like red beaulieu did
and farmer fran on special teams.
and farmer fran on special teams.
How do you go from being exalted as a coaching genius to being seen as a coaching idiot? If you read the reactions from Ohio State fans when Ash was hired from Arkansas to revive the Ohio State defense,
he was seen as a defensive guru, and he proved his coaching skills by improving their defense tremendously. So what the hell happened that now he seems so clueless and overwhelmed? Yes, the talent differential is great, but is that the whole story?
he was seen as a defensive guru, and he proved his coaching skills by improving their defense tremendously. So what the hell happened that now he seems so clueless and overwhelmed? Yes, the talent differential is great, but is that the whole story?
Every single day I check to see if Ash has been fired.
And every single day I find he is still the head coach.
And that means we are 1 day further away from getting this team turned around, being semi-competitive and no longer being an utter embarrassment to the students and alumni of Rutgers University and to being a national college football laughing stock.
Ash will NOT be the Rutgers head coach next year.
Because losing is one thing. Being consistently blown out by mediocre teams is a whole different story. So why Hobbs is taking to so long to fire him is a mystery to me. His firing is inevitable.
And every single day I find he is still the head coach.
And that means we are 1 day further away from getting this team turned around, being semi-competitive and no longer being an utter embarrassment to the students and alumni of Rutgers University and to being a national college football laughing stock.
Ash will NOT be the Rutgers head coach next year.
Because losing is one thing. Being consistently blown out by mediocre teams is a whole different story. So why Hobbs is taking to so long to fire him is a mystery to me. His firing is inevitable.
That’s it! We just need to get Greg Brady to return the idol so old Mr Hanalei can remove the curse ... and everything will be fine.
Maybe we will be the Kansas of the East?
David Beaty is 0-12, 2-10, 1-11 and 2-4 for the last 3 1/2 years. We have a long way to go.
Skoolie nails it...The other problem is that Ash created such a negative vibe from day one. I always hated it when he spoke of the kids on our team so negative and you could see him that it pained him to let them play. The guys has had Martin, Hicks, Grant, Aggs, Patten, Muller, Miller, Nelson, Hamilton, Joseph, Turay, Austin, and much more and he can't find a way to win? Much less, stay in games past halftime?
I remember a post by the Muller family sometime earlier this year...They were talking about Chris's success outside of football but you could here the undertone of how they felt he did get cheated of a real pursuit of football by the coaching after Ash got here. That was the time that I started to get very concerned,
agree, his disdain for the kids was evident. His removal of the awards and what traditions we had speaks volumes for the type of man he is. He is the worst coach RU has ever had, dare anyone to find worse when you look at his total body of work.
I’m inclined to agree. Shea was terrible on the field, but by all accounts was a good guy and is respected in coaching circles to this day (runs a very good QB school in Cali, I think). Flood was a corrupt, lazy jerk, but he utilized the talent he was given and, before the wheels came off and the de-commits piled up, put together some good recruiting classes. Ash can’t coach, can’t recruit, can’t inspire, and is a narcissistic ******* whose only real success was co-coaching 4 and 5 stars at Ohio State for two years—kids he didn’t recruit and didn’t have to develop. In short, he’s a fraud.
He’s still slapping kids in the face by talking about a 3, 4, 5 year rebuild publicly and only taking credit for 2 recruting classes and completely writes off his first class (even though some of those kid are “his” and he was hired for 2 months prior to signing day and decided to stay at OSU for weeks and continue to coach there).
TABOO!!
No need for a trip to Hawaii, although that might be nice.
I think people here are just looking for our taboo to be sent back to the cornfields of Iowa. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Some coaches are just great assistants but terrible head coaches. My friend was recruited by Fred Hill Jr when Fred was an assistant coach. He raved about how good a coach he was and how great he was working out guards. When Fred was hired here, our group thought he was a slam dunk hire. Unfortunately, Fred proved not everyone is made to be a head coach. My point is that Chris Ash seems to be a really good assistant coach but doesn't seem to have what it takes to be a Head Coach. It's a shame as he seems to have set the program even further back than when he started.
Your story sounds good, but for the record, Piscataway Township (which was much originally much larger and included everything between Woodbridge, Plainfield, and Bound Brook) was named by a group of families who settled there after fleeing the Piscataqua River region near Portsmouth, New Hampshire, where they had experienced religious intolerance from the Puritans of the nearby Mass. Bay colony.
The proprietors of the New Jersey Colony (later divided into East Jersey & West Jersey) had adopted a document called "The Concessions and Agreements" which guaranteed religious freedom to settlers.
Remains of a tavern, from the village of Raritan Landing, was found during the stadium expansion, but no indian burials have been found.
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Bottom line is that coaching football at Rutgers is a very hard job. There is a reason why Schiano was the only one who could attract talent here and many people on this thread were borderline happy when he left. Excluding Schiano, no one has left for a better job yet you have one Temple coach after another jumping for promotions. How does that happen? People who understand college football knew that GS was doing an exceptional job to get RU to where it was beating Cuse and Pitt. That's why the Michigans came callling.
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Exactly what I was going to say. Ash is the guy that is good at his job but isn't capable of being any more than middle management. He is the guy you hide when it is time for a sales call but is more than capable to put the whole presentation together under someone elses guidance.
My memory may be failing me, but weren't there Native American artifacts discovered during the construction of the Route 18 bridge over the Raritan that caused construction delays (if not an actual shift in how it was constructed)?
Could be.
I recall they found artifacts from the Raritan Landing settlement, not native american items.
That’s where as an AD you single all of the friends he has working for him as coaches and tell him that they have to go, hoping it drives a confrontation that ends with a negotiated settlement less than what you contractually owe him, and maybe you save a few million without wasting another season by keeping him around.
It may just be that, then. I only remembered they found artifacts and assumed they were Native American.
Ash is rich and he is going to get even more rich no matter what. It is the same winning a lottery worth $10 Million. It doesn't matter how many games he wins or loses if they keep him or fire him, he will still get paid 10 Million.
He says that he will be taking more control of the defense and calling defense plays. Lets see if that makes any difference.
He says that he will be taking more control of the defense and calling defense plays. Lets see if that makes any difference.
Sad we could have had this guy. Instead we have a shlub.
If you’re Ash why put any effort into anything. You will be richer than you ever dreamed no matter what. Tell the guys you love them and baby they so they don’t get into trouble or scandals, and you are guaranteed the money. He knows this will be his last head coaching job at this level ever. Nothing to lose.