NIT Bracketology

[gordel1]

Hey all,

I think we are much closer than anyone thinks to an NIT birth. Take a look at this bracketology that was updated last week.

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/

They have Nebraska/Penn St as 7 seeds as of last week.

Rutgers is better than both of those teams.

I am going to say if Rutgers wins the next 2 of 3 they are in.

 

[bac2therac]

12-16 Penn State...they have never invited a sub 500 school. I would take this site with a grain of salt

Also read the disclaimer about all thise 7th and 8th seeds...thats 8 spots that will likely go to regular season conference winners who dont win their conference tourneys that will be auto qualifiers for NIT

I think if Ru win 2 they are on the bubble..a split in the big 10 tourney might be enough at 17-15

 

[anon_xekqhstck0ygt]

Indiana is listed as a 5 and RU beat them too.

 

[BillyC80]

Wondering if 2 of 4 is enough (16-16 final record).

 

[bac2therac]

Indiana is listed as a 5 and RU beat them too.

Indiana is a ncaa contender. Their profile dwarfs RUs right now

 

[gordel1]

Wondering if 2 of 4 is enough (16-16 final record).

I think 2 more wins we sneak in (7 seed) and 3 we are a lock (4 seed home game)

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Beat Pen St

 

[ruman]

16 wins probably does it

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Any analysis that you do is AWFUL and a WASTE OF TIME if you don't understand and discuss the impact of conference regular season teams winning their conference tournaments.

Their could be 32 at large teams OR as little as 11. Bac could give you and idea.

There are 32 conferences. I'd think the following conferences regular season winner would be an at large bid.

1. B10
2. ACC
3. B12
4. SEC
5. BE
6 AAC - Houston
7. P12 - Washington
8. WCC-Gozaga
9. MAC-Buffalo
10. A10-VCU
11. MWC-Utah St.?

21 others are probably up in the air depending on conference toruments

 

[seels2662]

If we play SHU at SHU first round they better stinking open the upper deck

 

[bac2therac]

Any analysis that you do is AWFUL and a WASTE OF TIME if you don't understand and discuss the impact of conference regular season teams winning their conference tournaments.

Their could be 32 at large teams OR as little as 11. Bac could give you and idea.

There are 32 conferences. I'd think the following conferences regular season winner would be an at large bid.

1. B10
2. ACC
3. B12
4. SEC
5. BE
6 AAC - Houston
7. P12 - Washington
8. WCC-Gozaga
9. MAC-Buffalo
10. A10-VCU
11. MWC-Utah St.?

21 others are probably up in the air depending on conference toruments

the smaller conferences can take lots of bids. I dont think RU is a serious NIT contender until they win their next two, if they dont do that, forget about it unless an unlikely run to the finals of the Big 10 tourney

 

[gordel1]

If we play SHU at SHU first round they better stinking open the upper deck

I could see this matchup happening in a 7/2 seed game. These games frequently happen though at alternate venues due to availability could be at Walsh Gym.

 

[kcg88]

Root for all the #1 seeds in conference tournaments.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Root for all the #1 seeds in conference tournaments.

This is what it will be about if we can win 3 more games

 

[hinson32]

If we play SHU at SHU first round they better stinking open the upper deck

Seton Hall plays NITgames at Walsh, not the Rock.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

12-16 Penn State...they have never invited a sub 500 school. I would take this site with a grain of salt

Also read the disclaimer about all thise 7th and 8th seeds...thats 8 spots that will likely go to regular season conference winners who dont win their conference tourneys that will be auto qualifiers for NIT

I think if Ru win 2 they are on the bubble..a split in the big 10 tourney might be enough at 17-15

That’s my thinking....if that is to happen ..we will have had four games against good net rankings teams and three of them as wins

Think that gets our 94 net ranking into the 75 area ...

If you seed straight by ncaa net rankings, the last at large team will be around 50 and, figuring 8 or so confrence champs ...that will get the last team net ranking around 75.

17-15 will be close ...and I would mind this team playing some nit games on the road ...this will help this young team next year

 

[bac2therac]

Temple at 17-15 made it last year at 52

while BC at 19-15 got in with a 95 ranking

also 86 Stanford 18-15

also 94 LSU 17-14

 

[ScarletDave]

Nebraska PSU and Indiana all below us in the conference standings but some reason are in while we are not .. sorry, doesn’t make any sense to me. BEAT PSU and we might be in with a win in the B1G tourney or @indy

 

[Colbert17!]

To borrow an old football board thread.

PENN STATE
FOCUS!!!!!!

 

[bac2therac]

Nebraska PSU and Indiana all below us in the conference standings but some reason are in while we are not .. sorry, doesn’t make any sense to me. BEAT PSU and we might be in with a win in the B1G tourney or @indy

better wins and better profiles and better SOS.

 

[needmorecowbell]

12-16 Penn State...they have never invited a sub 500 school. I would take this site with a grain of salt

Also read the disclaimer about all thise 7th and 8th seeds...thats 8 spots that will likely go to regular season conference winners who dont win their conference tourneys that will be auto qualifiers for NIT

I think if Ru win 2 they are on the bubble..a split in the big 10 tourney might be enough at 17-15

With a very weak NCAA tournament bubble I’m also thinking that 17 wins might be enough for the NIT.

 

[Arizona Knight]

Does anyone weigh recent performance anymore. I thought the “last 10 games” metric was a great one. Get some teams in that are hell on wheels late but started slow for whatever reason.

 

[dpwhite]

If we play SHU at SHU first round they better stinking open the upper deck

They’d probably play at a Walsh, where they have played their NIT games before.

 

[gordel1]

I know the whole requirements of this changed some time ago where if you were in a major conference 500 record team you got in but because Rutgers lets say wins 2 more games. The fact RU is local, generating upward trajectory buzz, and the way they finished the year I think RU gets in.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Again....you need to know the backdrop with how many at large berths

 

[bac2therac]

Does anyone weigh recent performance anymore. I thought the “last 10 games” metric was a great one. Get some teams in that are hell on wheels late but started slow for whatever reason.

Does anyone weigh recent performance anymore. I thought the “last 10 games” metric was a great one. Get some teams in that are hell on wheels late but started slow for whatever reason.

for NCAA no it doesnt matter how you finish

for NIT it could matter

 

[BillyC80]

If this team somehow finishes with 17 wins (either 17-15 or 17-16), they’ll be a huge buzz on this board as we await the NIT bracket announcements.

And if we get in and get a home game, we will blow the roof off the RAC.

 

[Colbert17!]

I don't understand how Penn St. can go to the NIT with that record. It's not one or two games under .500 but substantially worse.

 

[yellowlot]

Hey all,

I think we are much closer than anyone thinks to an NIT birth. Take a look at this bracketology that was updated last week.

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/

They have Nebraska/Penn St as 7 seeds as of last week.

Rutgers is better than both of those teams.

I am going to say if Rutgers wins the next 2 of 3 they are in.

Fordham game could cost us NIT

 

[Colbert17!]

Bac,
I defer to your expertise
If we split the final two and split in the tourney is 16-16 good enough?
If not do we get a shot at CBI?

 

[BigEastPhil]

They’d probably play at a Walsh, where they have played their NIT games before.

That's what Jerry Carino posted yesterday but wouldn't a SHU - RU NIT rematch draw enough fans to warrant the game at the Rock?

 

[kcg88]

That's what Jerry Carino posted yesterday but wouldn't a SHU - RU NIT rematch draw enough fans to warrant the game at the Rock?

Devils have home games on the 19th and 21st... Not sure they'd want to force a basketball game in on the 20th.

 

[RUfanSinceAnderson]

Indiana is a ncaa contender. Their profile dwarfs RUs right now

Which is sad. They can’t even be two games under 500 in league. Just because they beat MSU twice they have a shot. This is so silly. I’d rather they give that slot to a lower division at large. Much more fun. I’m sure if it was RU with that profile, we’d be no where near that bubble.

 

[bac2therac]

they didnt just beat Michigan State...they beat Wisconsin, Marquette and Louisville plus PSU is another quad 1 win for them, that makes 6, more than any team on the bubble.

there will likely be multiple schools making the tournament with sub 500 conference marks..some may even be 4 games under .500

 

[Knights 1212]

It would be a joke if we got in and had to play SHU at Walsh. That gym seats less than 3,000. talk about small time.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

There is legitimate buzz about this. Multiple writers online saying RU is on the NIT bubble at the moment. Most seem to say we win our next 3 were a lock. So basically if we could beat psu, iu, ohio state, were a lock. Tall task. Most seem to think that even if we win 2 of 3 we could be in

 

[BigEastPhil]

According to John Templon (a NIT Bracketologist whom Jerry Carino praises) - he reevaluated our position and has our resume comparable to that of Arizona - as a soft 5 seed in the NIT. Check out his twitter as he posted this about 12 hours ago. Wow....would love to see us in the NIT.....or better yet,think big that we could win the B1G 10 Tourney...

 

[bac2therac]

Has the NIt dropped the .500 requirement if there ever was one? If PSU is getting in below 500 than an above 500 RU is getting in.

Carino wanna check on any nit rules? Thanks!

 

[Colbert17!]

Has the NIt dropped the .500 requirement if there ever was one? If PSU is getting in below 500 than an above 500 RU is getting in.

Carino wanna check on any nit rules? Thanks!

Doesn't seem .500 is required.

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2019/3/1/18246359/nitology-penn-state-nittany-lions-nit-at-large-bid

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Last year looks like 21 at large. So all 1-5 seeds and 1 6th seed