NIT Bracketology

Night Man

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Weird that we would go from "large school near NYC at .500 is a lock" for a long time to "need about 20 wins" for several years to "under .500 is cool if you play a tough enough schedule" now.
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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Hey all,

I think we are much closer than anyone thinks to an NIT birth. Take a look at this bracketology that was updated last week.

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/

They have Nebraska/Penn St as 7 seeds as of last week.

Rutgers is better than both of those teams.

I am going to say if Rutgers wins the next 2 of 3 they are in.

They are assuming way too many reg season conf winners also win tourneys.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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They assume Norfolk State wins MEAC
Prarie Viw loses SWAC
FDU wins NEC
Sam Houston wins Southland
Montana wins Big Sky
Iona wins MAAC
Vermont wins American East
Radford wins Big Soth
UC Irvine wins Big West
Colgate wins Patriot
S Dakota State wins Summit
N Kentucky wins Horizon
ODU wins CUSA
Ga Sothern loses Sun Belt
Harvard loses Ivy

Basically 12-3 for conferences that would send no one to NIT if conf reg champ won conf tourney.

Not realistic
 
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bac2therac

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exactly....the NIT bracketology now is a crapshoot....what is good is most of the smaller conferences have their tourneys a bit earlier so we start to get a read on what is going on

should be fun to track....IF RU at least splits...they must do their part of the bargain
 

Colbert17!

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They assume Norfolk State wins MEAC
Prarie Viw loses SWAC
FDU wins NEC
Sam Houston wins Southland
Montana wins Big Sky
Iona wins MAAC
Vermont wins American East
Radford wins Big Soth
UC Irvine wins Big West
Colgate wins Patriot
S Dakota State wins Summit
N Kentucky wins Horizon
ODU wins CUSA
Ga Sothern loses Sun Belt
Harvard loses Ivy

Basically 12-3 for conferences that would send no one to NIT if conf reg champ won conf tourney.

Not realistic

So what you're saying is we need to root for the left hand column.
 

RUaMoose_rivals

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Wouldn't the fact RU is so close to MSG be a feather in their cap with the selectors, assuming they finish out 3-1 (2-0; 1-1 in B1G tourney)?
 

Greene Rice FIG

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If Rutgers wins Wednesday it may be time to put things on paper and really see where we rank in the at large universe.

Then we need to start rooting against NCAA bid thieves and rooting for conference regular season champions in the bottom 24 or so conferences.

Part of the March Madness fun is rooting for underdogs. I’ll be OK putting that on hold until the NCAA tournament starts if need be.
 

kcg88

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If Rutgers wins Wednesday it may be time to put things on paper and really see where we rank in the at large universe.

Then we need to start rooting against NCAA bid thieves and rooting for conference regular season champions in the bottom 24 or so conferences.

Part of the March Madness fun is rooting for underdogs. I’ll be OK putting that on hold until the NCAA tournament starts if need be.

I mostly always root for the favorites in the low-major conference tournaments. Lipscomb and Vermont have a much better chance of making things interesting in the big dance than if Jacksonville or UMass Lowell gets hot and wins the conference tournament.
 

RUfinal4

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Location no longer a factor in selection

When the NIT sold to the NCAA the local preference went away.

RU needs to win against PSU, not lose bad to Indiana (hopefully win), win the 1st B10 tourney game against a lower seed, and be close in the 2nd game against a better seed just to remain on the bubble. Win 4 in a row and then lose in the B10 semis and we are in.

Rutgers is 9th right now in conference which means a match up against #8 (Ohio St now). Minny and Ohio St are 1 game up as the 7th and 8th places. The 10 can be Illinois or Indiana.
 

Local Shill

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When the NIT sold to the NCAA the local preference went away.

RU needs to win against PSU, not lose bad to Indiana (hopefully win), win the 1st B10 tourney game against a lower seed, and be close in the 2nd game against a better seed just to remain on the bubble. Win 4 in a row and then lose in the B10 semis and we are in.

Rutgers is 9th right now in conference which means a match up against #8 (Ohio St now). Minny and Ohio St are 1 game up as the 7th and 8th places. The 10 can be Illinois or Indiana.

RU is tied for 9th with Illinois but would be the 10 deed if the tournament started today. Illinois gets the 9 by virtue of its win over RU.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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May have to watch some PAC12 basketball...Oregon Arizona Colorado Oregon State all on NIT bubble

Along with...Georgetown Butler Providence and Xavier

Although Georgetown is probably a LOCK for NIT if they don't make NCAA if they lose out
 

bac2therac

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RU MAN

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Hey all,

I think we are much closer than anyone thinks to an NIT birth. Take a look at this bracketology that was updated last week.

https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/

They have Nebraska/Penn St as 7 seeds as of last week.

Rutgers is better than both of those teams.


I am going to say if Rutgers wins the next 2 of 3 they are in.
They now have Indiana in as a 4th seed and still have Penn. State as a 7th seed. Nebraska is no longer in there. What I find puzzling is we all know that the NCAA committee took over the NIT a few years ago. I would be very surprised that a team like Penn. State would be invited with an under .500 record by a lot just because they have a decent "net" record. Doesn't make any sense.
 

bac2therac

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Not sure about inviting sub 500 schools
..its not like they are one game under 500 they are 4 games under

Win tonight and i dont think we have to qorry about them

Also PSU won the NIT last year...who knows if they would even accept an invitation below 500..some schools decline because the eye is on the bigger prize
 

Wolv RU

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FWIW, last year, #21 (BYU), 23 (BC), and 29 (Stanford) made it from that list. There were 20 total at-large bids. Stanford was 18-15 and got a 3-seed in the NIT.

In 2017, #20 Fresno St, #21 Boise, #22 Colorado, #25 Richmond, NR in top 25 Georgia Tech, and NR in top 25 Valparaiso from that list all received at large bids. 22 at-large bids were awarded.

Georgia Tech was 17-15 and received a 6-seed.
 

Wolv RU

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Wolv was that directly from the page I linked before NIT started?

The page you linked has the "final" results from 2018 and 2017. Those linked pages state that their "final" results are from March 11, 2018 and March 12, 2017. Those days were selection Sunday in those years. Thus, I believe these are the results after all conference tournaments but before any NCAA/NIT etc. games.