Guys can we talk hawk wrestling not stupid 6th grade playground beefs
It's the off season. If the conversations strictly adhered to wrestling ONLY, the board would be VERY barren...even with the childish back and forths, it is VERY slow and easy to navigate around if you don't care for it...Guys can we talk hawk wrestling not stupid 6th grade playground beefs
Guys can we talk hawk wrestling not stupid 6th grade playground beefs
I would be ok with that at this point with 17% of posts worth reading.If the conversations strictly adhered to wrestling ONLY, the board would be VERY barren
You may well be right VBaby. My growth spurt was 5th to 6th and maybe slightly into 7th grade when I stretched to all of 5' 8" and quite possibly another 1/2 inch.You overestimate our ability to act our age. I can say with absolute certainty that 83% of us stopped maturing at the 6th grade.
This is definitely optimistic…but they surprised me at NCAAs and damn near had 9 AAs so hopefully this isn’t too far off the mark.What are you thoughts on individual placement & overall team placement at NCAA's?
125: DeLuca
133: Croockham
141: Bailey
149: Block
157: Williams/Estrada/Block
165: Schubert
174: Arnold
184: Ferrari
197: Ludington
285: Kueter
So, what color of uniform is AJ going to be wearing for the upcoming season? Any idea?
I see 5 BIG question marks with that line up and 85 points if everyone stays healthy and eligible. But it should be an exciting dog fight for 4th place, imo.This is definitely optimistic…but they surprised me at NCAAs and damn near had 9 AAs so hopefully this isn’t too far off the mark.
125: Deluca - 6th - have been watching his old matches lately…a lot of folks have forgotten how fast and sharp he is. He just needs to stay healthy
133: Crookham - 3rd - obviously needs to stay healthy, maybe pitch count him…could win it all
141: Bailey - 7th - Didn’t realize how injured he was until NCAAs were over…he still should have AA’d
149: Block - 7th - Tough weight class but should still AA
157: Williamzzzz - 8th - Assuming he keeps his **** together, he has the ability to AA
165: Schubert - 8th - Solid portal acquisition…excited to see what he’ll do a weight class lighter
174: Arnold - 3rd - I’ll never doubt him again
184: Ferrari - 1st - He’ll beat Sinclair or Mac in the finals. Hope he starches Rocco. Please stay healthy
197: Ludington - RD16 - Solid prospect but needs another year before he’ll be an AA contender
285: Kueter - 2nd - Very bullish on Ben…could win it all but have him losing to Ross or Merrill in the finals
9 AAs, the streak stays alive, and the hawks finish 3rd with roughly 105 team points
So, what color of uniform is AJ going to be wearing for the upcoming season? Any idea?
No guarantees he can get that high and maintain the same level of speed and athleticism. It really is hard for lean heavyweights to gain weight and maintain it if they aren’t still naturally growing.I think Ross's quickness and athleticism will be a problem for every heavyweight out there from the jump. Once his weight gets up to 245-255 he's not losing to anyone.
Keuter had every bit the accolades coming out of high school as Ross and he didn't tear up the competition in his first year of heavyweight collegiate wrestling. Why is everyone convinced Ross will? What sets him apart?
Style and skill set mainly based on perceived speed/quickness. Still, it is VERY hard to hit the ground running at 285. Mat wrestling is a major factor. I don’t doubt he will do very well, but I will need to see him wrestle some of the top guys at least midway into the season before I even consider putting him in the Finals…Keuter had every bit the accolades coming out of high school as Ross and he didn't tear up the competition in his first year of heavyweight collegiate wrestling. Why is everyone convinced Ross will? What sets him apart?
Cassioppi looked far better before he went lean. Not saying he will lose a lot, but Ross will have rough sledding with the bigger and stronger college level heavies in a lengthy season.No guarantees he can get that high and maintain the same level of speed and athleticism. It really is hard for lean heavyweights to gain weight and maintain it if they aren’t still naturally growing.
As has been said quite often about Kueter, normal every day wrestling routines burn a TON of calories. Fit heavyweights usually lose weight in season and, depending on their routines off season, have a pretty hard time putting healthy weight on even then…
B12 doesn't have a lot of top guys. Merrill is probably his toughest test. Volker and Carroll fairly tough. See what he gets at the national duals. Ziola and BK in non conference.Style and skill set mainly based on perceived speed/quickness. Still, it is VERY hard to hit the ground running at 285. Mat wrestling is a major factor. I don’t doubt he will do very well, but I will need to see him wrestle some of the top guys at least midway into the season before I even consider putting him in the Finals…
Cassioppi looked far better before he went lean. Not saying he will lose a lot, but Ross will have rough sledding with the bigger and stronger college level heavies in a lengthy season.
Ross is young for his grade and has a lot of runway left as far as maturity, strength, and weight gain goes. He'll pack on more pounds. Keuter redshirted twice, once in 8th grade and again his first year at Iowa. He might be as heavy as he'll ever get while in college?Keuter had every bit the accolades coming out of high school as Ross and he didn't tear up the competition in his first year of heavyweight collegiate wrestling. Why is everyone convinced Ross will? What sets him apart?
Do you have Sahakian below these guys?I think its a real possibility that Ross and Ben meet in the Semi's or finals. I think they both place top 5. This is how I would rank HWT right now.
1 BK
2 Feldman
3 Carroll
4 Ross
5 Merrill
6 Amos
7 Mirasola
8 Pitzer
9 Ziola
10 Endene
11 Voelker
12 Taylor
13 Hopke
Do you have Sahakian below these guys?
Endene at HWT I don't see him being able to go get one like he could at 197. He's short and won't be beating the 3 guys below him. Im not sure he beats anyone on the listI think its a real possibility that Ross and Ben meet in the Semi's or finals. I think they both place top 5. This is how I would rank HWT right now.
1 BK
2 Feldman
3 Carroll
4 Ross
5 Merrill
6 Amos
7 Mirasola
8 Pitzer
9 Ziola
10 Endene
11 Voelker
12 Taylor
13 Hopke
He is not young for his gradeRoss is young for his grade and has a lot of runway left as far as maturity, strength, and weight gain goes. He'll pack on more pounds. Keuter redshirted twice, once in 8th grade and again his first year at Iowa. He might be as heavy as he'll ever get while in college?
Exactly Dreshaun is 18 and will be 19 in December. I believe that's the same poster who's been hating on Ben for yearsHe is not young for his grade
According to Wrestlestat, these placements would net the Hawks 99.14pts. I said 105 to account for misc bonus points.I see 5 BIG question marks with that line up and 85 points if everyone stays healthy and eligible. But it should be an exciting dog fight for 4th place, imo.
Just say "cats" next time.Only because I relinquished the title for more women and quality time with my pets.
Haha. If you want to "redshirt" your kid, you typically do it in Kindergarten not 8th grade. Total douchebag move. Especially when you're a heavier weight kid, not a 90 pound 8th grader who's too light for 106. Corby, I want you to explain your logic on why a kid should "repeat" 8th grade when there's no other reason why besides athletics, not academics? I'm fairly certain Ben is a very bright and intelligent young man.Exactly Dreshaun is 18 and will be 19 in December. I believe that's the same poster who's been hating on Ben for years
Yes, I'd have him in the 15 range. Red shirt freshman coming off a injury and didn't compete last year. I think thats fair.Do you have Sahakian below these guys?
I tend to agree with you. I let wrestlestat sway my ranking there. I think they have him at #2 or something crazy. He should probably be closer to 20 than 10. I'm going to edit him down a few spotsEndene at HWT I don't see him being able to go get one like he could at 197. He's short and won't be beating the 3 guys below him. Im not sure he beats anyone on the list
8th grade is actually the grade most kids repeat. Bassett I believe did 8th twice and I think Schwab boys as well. So if it's kindergarten it's ok why? Are you fairly certain his grades were good in 8th grade? My guess is you've no clue and you look for any reason you can to say bad things about BenHaha. If you want to "redshirt" your kid, you typically do it in Kindergarten not 8th grade. Total douchebag move. Especially when you're a heavier weight kid, not a 90 pound 8th grader who's too light for 106. Corby, I want you to explain your logic on why a kid should "repeat" 8th grade when there's no other reason why besides athletics, not academics? I'm fairly certain Ben is a very bright and intelligent young man.
You have no idea what you're talking about.Haha. If you want to "redshirt" your kid, you typically do it in Kindergarten not 8th grade. Total douchebag move. Especially when you're a heavier weight kid, not a 90 pound 8th grader who's too light for 106. Corby, I want you to explain your logic on why a kid should "repeat" 8th grade when there's no other reason why besides athletics, not academics? I'm fairly certain Ben is a very bright and intelligent young man.
I don’t believe your placement predictions are accurate.According to Wrestlestat, these placements would net the Hawks 99.14pts. I said 105 to account for misc bonus points.
Its a ***** move regardless of the timing8th grade is actually the grade most kids repeat. Bassett I believe did 8th twice and I think Schwab boys as well. So if it's kindergarten it's ok why? Are you fairly certain his grades were good in 8th grade? My guess is you've no clue and you look for any reason you can to say bad things about Ben![]()
It could happen time will tell been waiting for Ryder to fill out some maybe this was the summerRyder to 157
JWill 149
Cael has created a dynasty…… too bad he Flucked Bobby Douglas and ISU over so bad in the process…. Bobby deserved better ISU not so muchNot so fast. Maybe ISU already has a hard time claiming Cael given his success as a coach at PSU seems to have surpassed what he did in Iowa.
What are you hearing ? I thought he was a good size 149? Did he finally fill out?It could happen time will tell been waiting for Ryder to fill out some maybe this was the summer![]()