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dtrain79

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Btw, guys, it's Trump bleeping up the GOP right now. Trump. Not Susan Collins (who may well win). Not Greg Abbott. Not John Thune , Mike Johnson, or even Paul Ryan (hehe).

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP.

Trump blew it, and now you are going to pay. It was always written this way, the option was to reject him before he got off the ground!
 

dtrain79

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Hawaiians reading about us having no hurricanes this year

Excuse Me What GIF


Rillaman you're like a one-trick pony of pain.
 
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BigWill

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Man it's almost as if, yet again, you don't know what's actually being addressed. I love MR, but again he's relying on you not knowing the details.

1. Illegal immigrants working under false papers pay into SS, they get nothing out. That is the only thing that's been discussed here. Illegal immigrants. You understand that Rubio is not discussing illegals, he's discussing refugees (who are legal), correct?

2. Legal immigrants are lawful workers in the USA, and qualify for the same working benefits based on paying into the Social Security system. Legal immigrants who work for 30-40 years do receive SS retirement benefits ... because they paid into the system like us.

3. The laws on Cuban immigration are different than almost all other groups, meaning a Cuban at times can get legal and refugee status through mechanisms unavailable to others. This is anachronism of the Cold War. Perhaps we should change these laws, though Republicans would not be for that on a standalone basis (because Cubans vote more R than D). This doesn't make a Cuban illegal eligible for benefits.

It's almost as if the whole immigration system should be overhauled, which would require Republicans to compromise on some of their most hardline stuff (which is basically about legal immigration restrictions). I would like merit-based legal immigration combined with guest workers for lower skill work. I think our asylum system is terrible and should be overwhelmingly limited, perhaps via a yearly Congressional vote on which countries have citizens who would potentially qualify for refugee status.
Lower skill work should require immigrants to have a required place of work in the USA, prior to entry.
 

BigWill

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Btw, guys, it's Trump bleeping up the GOP right now. Trump. Not Susan Collins (who may well win). Not Greg Abbott. Not John Thune , Mike Johnson, or even Paul Ryan (hehe).

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP.

Trump blew it, and now you are going to pay. It was always written this way, the option was to reject him before he got off the ground!
TDS, TDS, TDS, TDS, TDS, TDS.
 
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ILisBest

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Btw, guys, it's Trump bleeping up the GOP right now. Trump. Not Susan Collins (who may well win). Not Greg Abbott. Not John Thune , Mike Johnson, or even Paul Ryan (hehe).

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP.

Trump blew it, and now you are going to pay. It was always written this way, the option was to reject him before he got off the ground!
You have been mostly anti everything Trump since 2015. Yes, the GOP(controlling party) is expected to lose seats and potentially congressional control. This not earth shattering at all. It is expected. You and **** crazy stoney can high five in this thread all you want, but this would be the expected outcome with any controlling party. 🥂
 

dtrain79

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You have been mostly anti everything Trump since 2015. Yes, the GOP(controlling party) is expected to lose seats and potentially congressional control. This not earth shattering at all. It is expected. You and **** crazy stoney can high five in this thread all you want, but this would be the expected outcome with any controlling party. 🥂

What is happening right now is not normal and not under control. There's actual revolt among conservative-leaning independents and non-MAGA Rs.

Yes, Dems should win the midterms. Dems should take the House. Dems should not be looking likely to win Texas, Ohio, and Alaska Senate seats ... with Iowa on a knife's edge and Kansas/Nebraska not off the table. Greg Abbott should not be in trouble (I still think he wins, but my confidence is shaken right now). The Republican Texas and Florida gerrymanders should not be collapsing.

You hand waive this away because you don't like to face the consequences. The GOP got away with Trump once (I did vote for him in 2020 btw), but the post-January 6 Trump and MAGA apparatus just aren't the same. The GOP isn't getting away with it again.

We could have had DeSantis. Or Rubio. Or whomever would have been sane and ... more conservative on most issues. Alas, the Trump bet was placed a third time, and it just went BUST.
 

stoneaxe27

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Wait, wat??? I thought we were told immigrants only pay into SS. Maybe Rubio is wrong?


********. Rubio has sold his soul to Trump, and it will destroy his future in politics. Yesterday he said that Putin was welcomed and invited to G20 by Trump as it was the smart thing to do to talk to him.
 

AzIllini

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Typhoons ?
Because I'm a climate kind of guy I looked it up. A typhoon is a hurricane that occurs in the Western and Northern Pacific. A hurricane is a hurricane that occurs in the Eastern and Central Pacific and the Atlantic. If a hurricane starts in the Eastern Pacific and crosses the international date line it becomes a typhoon. Apparently the name typhoon goes way back in history when England was sailing the Pacific and it is what their sailors called the storms. I think the US influenced the use of the name hurricane elsewhere, particularly once we annexed Hawaii in 1898.

ps. below the equator they rotate the opposite direction and are supposed to be called cyclones
 

stoneaxe27

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I don't think many care the exact immigration status of someone here 3 months that receives intended US citizen safety net dollars.
Think it out. How long did you have to work to earn a monthly SS benefit of $1,500? Did you earn any benefit after working only 3 months? Same rules apply to an immigrant paying in on an approved status.
 

ILisBest

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Think it out. How long did you have to work to earn a monthly SS benefit of $1,500? Did you earn any benefit after working only 3 months? Same rules apply to an immigrant paying in on an approved status.
You think MR is making this up? You obviously dislike Rubio from your comments. Your new bedfellow would vote for him in a presidential election. High five!
 

stoneaxe27

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You think MR is making this up? You obviously dislike Rubio from your comments. Your new bedfellow would vote for him in a presidential election. High five!
He is making it up or stating it in a way that misleads those like you. No one get Social Security after 3 months.
 

dtrain79

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Is Trump responsible for Biden's inflation issues? Hell to the "no." And inflation was bad under Biden, though the 9% rate was in 2022 and by the end of his term it had come down to 3-3.5%.

Inflation under Trump has risen slightly, more at the 3.5% end. Not a disaster, of course. But not good especially because he promised to bring it down. And the real problem is that he's pursued multiple inflationary policies - tariffs and the Iran War being two (not reducing spending is a third but that's been a long-term issue except under Newt and Boehner in the House).

People aren't happy about the inflation. Let's say Trump didn't do tariffs or Iran and inflation was at 2.5%, they'd be happier. But where he's really gone wrong is that, both in policy and what he's said, voters correctly don't think he cares!
 
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stoneaxe27

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Kamala's guy with the dodge


I take it you didn't listen to his response, just accepted the misrepresentation of Eyal Yakoby. He said he was not in favor of U.S. going to war with Iran to achieve regime change, going in and killing the leaders. He wants the regime change to come from the people of Iran. He stands with the pro-democracy movement in Iran.
 

BigWill

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Because I'm a climate kind of guy I looked it up. A typhoon is a hurricane that occurs in the Western and Northern Pacific. A hurricane is a hurricane that occurs in the Eastern and Central Pacific and the Atlantic. If a hurricane starts in the Eastern Pacific and crosses the international date line it becomes a typhoon. Apparently the name typhoon goes way back in history when England was sailing the Pacific and it is what their sailors called the storms. I think the US influenced the use of the name hurricane elsewhere, particularly once we annexed Hawaii in 1898.

ps. below the equator they rotate the opposite direction and are supposed to be called cyclones
The current lack of Hurricanes in the Atlantic is the latest to date since 1914.

There is a large Nor'easter thought to be arriving over the weekend.

This could affect the prices of lobster upward, with boats unable to retrieve the traps till surf/waves subside.
 
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rillaman

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Because I'm a climate kind of guy I looked it up. A typhoon is a hurricane that occurs in the Western and Northern Pacific. A hurricane is a hurricane that occurs in the Eastern and Central Pacific and the Atlantic. If a hurricane starts in the Eastern Pacific and crosses the international date line it becomes a typhoon. Apparently the name typhoon goes way back in history when England was sailing the Pacific and it is what their sailors called the storms. I think the US influenced the use of the name hurricane elsewhere, particularly once we annexed Hawaii in 1898.

ps. below the equator they rotate the opposite direction and are supposed to be called cyclones

I just found it funny that Uncoach was posting about a lack of hurricanes while a massive storm was brewing in the Pacific. And there have been multiple category 5 hurricanes in the Pacific this year. He also posted about it being a light wildfire year right before we had a historical wildfire year.

I did overuse a meme. Apologies for that.
 

dtrain79

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It was a simple task and is roughly 80/20. Great job, Thune!



Republicans have roughly $1.5B to spend this cycle, to Dems $1.1B.

The SAVE Act is not an 80/20 proposition. Voter ID is probably 75/25, and I think it very well could have passed. The SAVE Act was a far more extensive effort into regulating state-run elections. It didn't even have 50 votes, but hey Trump talked about it a lot so the rubes obsessed over it.

The best, absolute best thing that could happen to Republicans is that all the extremist voters and donors would simply disappear. This is a start. The GOP has a ton of $$$ from people who are both free market and reasonable, because this combination is very common among the extremely rich.
 
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